Earlier this year a TSO tried to force me to remove my only item of clothing on my upper body (a thin, lightweight top). I only had a bra on underneath and refused. It took several refusals before he called for a female assist. (I hadn't alarmed the WTMD) When she heard why she did a and told me exactly what she thought of her male colleagues.

There are several reports from posters here (I believe that VelvetKennedy is one) who were ordered to remove their only item of clothing on their upper body by male TSOs.

Like this poor traveler?

Eyecue, if you really are a TSO and if you really do think that in some stretch of the imagination this is OK - would you be perfectly content to have some stranger demanding that your wife/girlfriend/sister/mother/daughter lift and move her breasts in public at a TSA checkpoint? You're really OK with that?

Besides - bras, particularly for the well-endowed, are designed to prevent free motion. Motion control/support and shaping are the main reasons most women wear the things! The only way to "lift and separate" with most bras is after removing the bra.

Given his other posts, I would have to disagree.

I suspect he has no idea how sexist or generally awful he comes across, and not just in this thread.

Man, eyecue really turned the thread upside down didn't he? That was an incredibly awful and callous statement - but it probably reflects SOP.

Regardless, what he said is informative. Men find watching beautiful women touched in that manner sexually stimulating. That's the damn truth and that's all there is to it. Add in authority, submission, and compliance, and it's clear that the situation is ripe for sexual exploitation and humiliation.

The fact that the TSA is pretending that nothing sexual could come out of the situation is the ridiculous part.

I know I'm not the only one that instinctively wonders what a hot girl's boobs look like on the monitor when I see one in the scanner. I'd be a little worried if I didn't, to be honest. The TSA guys are exactly the same, except that they have someone on their earpiece that can describe what her nipples look like. Open to abuse doesn't begin to cover it.

I mean seriously, what is everyone thinking about when they see this? Don't lie.

Oh. If so then he and Eyecue are a match made in-....."someplace."

It's also about as informative as saying it's dark out at night. And it's hardly something to brag about.

I agree, that was very... visceral. But at the same time, even though you say it's totally obvious, the TSA seems to pretend that there is nothing to worry about.

While they are both ignorant (on this topic) males, they happen to be on the exact opposite sides of the issue we are discussing.

One believes in facilitating the other.

"I'll tell her to lift."
"Thanks, I can watch then."

Edit: sorry bumped the wrong button before I finished. I meant to also put forth
What would a real Law enforcement officer say about this if a TSA was to make such a request?

new acronym?

That Sounds Assinine

They would probably get the cops to arrest you for indecent exposure.

Ummm....what is going on here?? Why is the screener on the floor with his eyes trained on that man's private area?? And, was the patdown over once he demonstrated that the only thing in his underwear was....whatever was in his underwear??

A male passenger with a huge overhanging stomach is treated the same way.

It is no different than a male with a large belly that hangs over the belt. You all are attaching the sexuality to it. To us it is just a part of the body that needs to be checked.

If you ask the more radical thinkers on here they would have you believe that a terrorist would have breast removal surgery and then implant explosives under the skin.
In reality though the breast can and has been used to hide many things including guns and knives. When they are capable of doing this because of their nature they will be checked further.

My breasts are far too small to hide anything. They are smaller than many men's breasts. There is more than enough space between them for a hand to be placed flat against my chest.

So why then have they been 'checked further' to the point of causing bruising?