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pubpad Dec 18, 2010 1:52 pm

Pat Downs-Breasts question
 
In numerous photos I have seen about the pat-downs of the breast area, it shows someone running their hand down in between the breasts, with their hand all the way against the chest.

Well, what about us women who have large breasts and who choose to wear those kinds of sports bras where is really is not space between the breasts? hey are just smooshed together...will they "dig" their hands in there, or just glide their hand over top?

tanja Dec 18, 2010 2:00 pm

It all depends on the TSO agent. Anywere and anyhow is the answer,
They can get very into it or just ignore it.

You dont know until it is over and one. And yes I do know how sick it sounds like.
If you feel bad about . Just let them know. But then you could also be accused of working against secirity and get in trouble for that.
TSo want us to enjoy it all for security.

MikeMpls Dec 18, 2010 2:58 pm

In my wife's case, the pervert went under her bra.

She was groped because she was wearing a skirt.

edj3 Dec 18, 2010 3:04 pm

I wear a D cup and I don't wear a sport bra like the one you described, which means I don't get the uni-boob effect. I do opt out when picked and I'm usually picked. FWIW here's how it's gone down for me. The female TSA runs the back of her hand around each breast. She doesn't smoosh against my chest wall between them but she does run her hand all the way around each one.

Carolinwa Dec 18, 2010 4:27 pm

Well, I wear an H cup and to hold them apart would place them partially under my arms. There is no article of clothing that is going to save me from literally being strip-searched or to have a stranger's hands inside the cups. I am sick with fear.....

exbayern Dec 18, 2010 4:30 pm

I posted awhile back about the differences small breasted vs larger breasted women have with pat down. For a small breasted woman, we have space between our breasts large enough for a hand (in some cases)

Yet being small breasted doesn't mean that we don't have our share of abuse; I know that I am not the only woman here who has ended up with bruising on their breasts after a pat down from TSA.

Mr. Elliott Dec 18, 2010 6:24 pm

I posted on another thread asking about if the TSA has the authority to use physical force t restrain you and apparently the answer is no, so now another question.

If during the pat down, the TSO gets to aggressive and causes physical pain, do you have the right to forcibly remove the TSO’s hands from you.

If this was me, I would do just that, then immediately call for an LEO and the FSD to report the TSO, I would also ask the LEO and the FSD to review the tapes to see if the TSO was to aggressive.

Mr. Elliott

exbayern Dec 18, 2010 6:28 pm


Originally Posted by Mr. Elliott (Post 15478107)
I posted on another thread asking about if the TSA has the authority to use physical force t restrain you and apparently the answer is no, so now another question.

If during the pat down, the TSO gets to aggressive and causes physical pain, do you have the right to forcibly remove the TSO’s hands from you.

If this was me, I would do just that, then immediately call for an LEO and the FSD to report the TSO, I would also ask the LEO and the FSD to review the tapes to see if the TSO was to aggressive.

Mr. Elliott

When I did (not during the breast exam, but another time when a TSO seemed to put more pressure on the area I specifically said was a painful area), the TSO began to threaten me. It was in fact at least one other TSO who called a supervisor to stop the actions of the first TSO. Had they not done that, I don't know the outcome, but I was certainly threatened that day that I would not fly or worse.

I simply had asked her verbally to stop for a moment as she was increasing the pain, and then had involuntary movements which were caused by her pressing on the area.
And at that point, I was in so much pain that I don't know if I would have been able to control my verbal or physical actions.

eyecue Dec 18, 2010 8:32 pm


Originally Posted by pubpad (Post 15476727)
In numerous photos I have seen about the pat-downs of the breast area, it shows someone running their hand down in between the breasts, with their hand all the way against the chest.

Well, what about us women who have large breasts and who choose to wear those kinds of sports bras where is really is not space between the breasts? hey are just smooshed together...will they "dig" their hands in there, or just glide their hand over top?

You can be requested to lift or move/seperate the breasts in order to facilitate the pat down.

Chaos the Crazy Dec 18, 2010 8:52 pm


Originally Posted by eyecue (Post 15478628)
You can be requested to lift or move/seperate the breasts in order to facilitate the pat down.

"Requested"

I will do nothing to facilitate your further molestation of my person. Nor do I have to. You have no power over me.

littlesheep Dec 18, 2010 9:00 pm

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NoClu Dec 18, 2010 9:23 pm


Originally Posted by eyecue (Post 15478628)
You can be requested to lift or move/seperate the breasts in order to facilitate the pat down.

Disgusting.

FaustsAccountant Dec 18, 2010 10:13 pm

This is starting to sound like a porno!

And no, being 'requested' to touch myself so you can watch does NOT make me feel safer. And the line "For your safety" doesn't fly with me. (Pun intended)

Eyecue, I'm really trying to give you benefit of doubt, but each time you post stuff like this, your creditability drops dramatically.

TheGolfWidow Dec 18, 2010 10:14 pm


Originally Posted by eyecue (Post 15478628)
You can be requested to lift or move/seperate the breasts in order to facilitate the pat down.

Seriously? Listen to what you are saying and think about the women that you know personally. You want people doing this to them??

I'm boggled that you can think this is okay.

yautjalady Dec 18, 2010 10:26 pm


Originally Posted by eyecue (Post 15478628)
You can be requested to lift or move/seperate the breasts in order to facilitate the pat down.

(counts to ten before posting)

Thats when I don't comply, and back away from the screener, and request a LEO

:mad: x 10


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