New TSA security measures in the aftermath of the NW AMS/DTW flight
Dec 26, 2009, 10:22 am
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Travel Advisory
New International Security Directive
The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) has issued a new security directive affecting flights departing International locations arriving in the United States. For Alaska Airlines and Horizon Air passengers this affects flight coming from Canada and Mexico into the United States.
Passengers traveling from Canada and Mexico should arrive at the airport an additional 2 hours before departure in order to help with the additional security measures. Passengers should also expect the following:
All passengers flying into the United States will be searched at the departure gate, in addition to normal screening at security checkpoints.
Carry-on luggage will also be searched at the departure gate. To minimize boarding delays, passengers are encouraged to check all their luggage. Alaska Airlines and Horizon Air will waive bag fees for passengers flying into the United States through December 30, 2010.
Added security measures while on the international flights are also being put into effect.
As always, we advise you to check your flight status before departure. Sign up for Trip Alerts or Flight Status Alerts and we'll notify you of any last minute delays, cancellations, or gate changes on your flights by email or text message.
New International Security Directive
The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) has issued a new security directive affecting flights departing International locations arriving in the United States. For Alaska Airlines and Horizon Air passengers this affects flight coming from Canada and Mexico into the United States.
Passengers traveling from Canada and Mexico should arrive at the airport an additional 2 hours before departure in order to help with the additional security measures. Passengers should also expect the following:
All passengers flying into the United States will be searched at the departure gate, in addition to normal screening at security checkpoints.
Carry-on luggage will also be searched at the departure gate. To minimize boarding delays, passengers are encouraged to check all their luggage. Alaska Airlines and Horizon Air will waive bag fees for passengers flying into the United States through December 30, 2010.
Added security measures while on the international flights are also being put into effect.
As always, we advise you to check your flight status before departure. Sign up for Trip Alerts or Flight Status Alerts and we'll notify you of any last minute delays, cancellations, or gate changes on your flights by email or text message.
Dec 26, 2009, 10:30 am
#32
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Hi,
- Apparently, he was on a watch'list, but not a no-fly list.
- I guess the naked scanners may be coming back with a twist ... would they have caught this packet of powder on his leg? All security agencies in the world are sure to say so.
- The only way to avoid this would indeed be frisking everybody ... just add another hour of security screening to get to your flight.
Yes, indeed, it's one whack job who will cause all of us travelers a bunch of extra inconvenience. Another success in the loony column.
Cheers,
GenevaFlyer
Some sources report Abdul was on a watch list - whoops, looks like maybe that was the first screwup, as well as AMS security not managing to find the packet of powder taped to Abdul's leg, nor the liquid he added to it, nor the syringe he may have used to add it. (But, human behavioral screening a la El Al is considered to be too expensive; maybe they will just have us all fly naked in flex cuffs - that will give an entirely new flavor to security and gate screening, and is somewhat more restrictive, but it may be faster and hey, it's for security, right? 
)
)- I guess the naked scanners may be coming back with a twist ... would they have caught this packet of powder on his leg? All security agencies in the world are sure to say so.
- The only way to avoid this would indeed be frisking everybody ... just add another hour of security screening to get to your flight.
Yes, indeed, it's one whack job who will cause all of us travelers a bunch of extra inconvenience. Another success in the loony column.
Cheers,
GenevaFlyer
Dec 26, 2009, 10:32 am
#33
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ETD/ETP would have caught him. Too bad the TSA is too stupid to use it or ETP.
I hope the USA experiences a severe and expensive backlash over this new idiocy.
I hope the USA experiences a severe and expensive backlash over this new idiocy.
Dec 26, 2009, 10:39 am
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DFW TSA is reported (got a PM from a friend) to be confiscating legal size but generic containers of liquids and gels today. If you have a hotel or brand bottle of shampoo under 3 oz, it seems to be allowed; your own in an REI plastic bottle, for example, into the trash it goes.......
Dec 26, 2009, 10:39 am
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I used to like operating into the U.S.A and used to enjoy going there on holiday. Then 6 years ago on my last flight there as a captain I was fingerprinted and photographed. I vowed never to return to a country that didn't welcome me in.
After 6 years the memory has faded a little and I've been missing the place a bit and thinking that maybe I could put up with the bit at the end when they treat me like a criminal.
If it's true that for the last hour of the flight I would have to remain seated, cannot access my personal belongings etc then I guess it will be a while before I get to the States. I'll just keep heading East where I'm made to feel welcome and they smile at me when I come to spend my money.
Does it not occur to governments that when they overreact to events like this they do immense harm to their economy by diverting tourist dollars to more welcoming destinations.
After 6 years the memory has faded a little and I've been missing the place a bit and thinking that maybe I could put up with the bit at the end when they treat me like a criminal.
If it's true that for the last hour of the flight I would have to remain seated, cannot access my personal belongings etc then I guess it will be a while before I get to the States. I'll just keep heading East where I'm made to feel welcome and they smile at me when I come to spend my money.
Does it not occur to governments that when they overreact to events like this they do immense harm to their economy by diverting tourist dollars to more welcoming destinations.
Dec 26, 2009, 10:44 am
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You got it!
Many people are going to choose to drive rather than fly and risk getting killed on the highways! Airlines will loose revenue.
Dec 26, 2009, 10:49 am
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Travel Advisory
New International Security Directive
The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) has issued a new security directive affecting flights departing International locations arriving in the United States. For Alaska Airlines and Horizon Air passengers this affects flight coming from Canada and Mexico into the United States.
Passengers traveling from Canada and Mexico should arrive at the airport an additional 2 hours before departure in order to help with the additional security measures. Passengers should also expect the following:
All passengers flying into the United States will be searched at the departure gate, in addition to normal screening at security checkpoints.
Carry-on luggage will also be searched at the departure gate. To minimize boarding delays, passengers are encouraged to check all their luggage. Alaska Airlines and Horizon Air will waive bag fees for passengers flying into the United States through December 30, 2010.
Added security measures while on the international flights are also being put into effect.
As always, we advise you to check your flight status before departure. Sign up for Trip Alerts or Flight Status Alerts and we'll notify you of any last minute delays, cancellations, or gate changes on your flights by email or text message.
New International Security Directive
The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) has issued a new security directive affecting flights departing International locations arriving in the United States. For Alaska Airlines and Horizon Air passengers this affects flight coming from Canada and Mexico into the United States.
Passengers traveling from Canada and Mexico should arrive at the airport an additional 2 hours before departure in order to help with the additional security measures. Passengers should also expect the following:
All passengers flying into the United States will be searched at the departure gate, in addition to normal screening at security checkpoints.
Carry-on luggage will also be searched at the departure gate. To minimize boarding delays, passengers are encouraged to check all their luggage. Alaska Airlines and Horizon Air will waive bag fees for passengers flying into the United States through December 30, 2010.
Added security measures while on the international flights are also being put into effect.
As always, we advise you to check your flight status before departure. Sign up for Trip Alerts or Flight Status Alerts and we'll notify you of any last minute delays, cancellations, or gate changes on your flights by email or text message.
Dec 26, 2009, 10:57 am
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When are the sheeple going to finally wake up and call BS on all this ? I'm not optimistic....
Dec 26, 2009, 11:13 am
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The terrorists have watched the reaction of the USG and they know that a simple, non-fatal incident like Reid or this guy are enough to cause millions of passengers to be disrupted and hundreds of millions of dollars of damage to the US airlines and economy.
Not a single death, only one low-level operative arrested, and a huge reaction.
Very, very high ROI..... and this kind of stuff will continue until the US gets serious about managing risk as opposed to the knee-jerk attempts at risk elimination.
Not a single death, only one low-level operative arrested, and a huge reaction.
Very, very high ROI..... and this kind of stuff will continue until the US gets serious about managing risk as opposed to the knee-jerk attempts at risk elimination.
Dec 26, 2009, 11:15 am
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Yeah, Do you really think TSA is un-American actions will be disgusting destroying immediately. I didn't appreciate it for TSA are stupid new policy and they are all retarded. Anyways, I am still in Switzerland and will be back home on Tuesday December 29. Do I need additional screening at the gate or not?
Dec 26, 2009, 11:23 am
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Travel Advisory
New International Security Directive
The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) has issued a new security directive affecting flights departing International locations arriving in the United States. For Alaska Airlines and Horizon Air passengers this affects flight coming from Canada and Mexico into the United States.
Passengers traveling from Canada and Mexico should arrive at the airport an additional 2 hours before departure in order to help with the additional security measures. Passengers should also expect the following:
All passengers flying into the United States will be searched at the departure gate, in addition to normal screening at security checkpoints.
Carry-on luggage will also be searched at the departure gate. To minimize boarding delays, passengers are encouraged to check all their luggage. Alaska Airlines and Horizon Air will waive bag fees for passengers flying into the United States through December 30, 2010.
Added security measures while on the international flights are also being put into effect.
As always, we advise you to check your flight status before departure. Sign up for Trip Alerts or Flight Status Alerts and we'll notify you of any last minute delays, cancellations, or gate changes on your flights by email or text message.
New International Security Directive
The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) has issued a new security directive affecting flights departing International locations arriving in the United States. For Alaska Airlines and Horizon Air passengers this affects flight coming from Canada and Mexico into the United States.
Passengers traveling from Canada and Mexico should arrive at the airport an additional 2 hours before departure in order to help with the additional security measures. Passengers should also expect the following:
All passengers flying into the United States will be searched at the departure gate, in addition to normal screening at security checkpoints.
Carry-on luggage will also be searched at the departure gate. To minimize boarding delays, passengers are encouraged to check all their luggage. Alaska Airlines and Horizon Air will waive bag fees for passengers flying into the United States through December 30, 2010.
Added security measures while on the international flights are also being put into effect.
As always, we advise you to check your flight status before departure. Sign up for Trip Alerts or Flight Status Alerts and we'll notify you of any last minute delays, cancellations, or gate changes on your flights by email or text message.
Dec 26, 2009, 11:29 am
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Besides, they must have their layers. I know, they can start doing bag searches mid flight too. That's a layer they haven't added yet.
Dec 26, 2009, 11:29 am
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Oh, wait, it's about consolidating power over the people.