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sbm12 Dec 8, 2009 5:50 pm


Originally Posted by Flaflyer (Post 12950635)
For those in the air who missed it: 12/8 ABC evening news. Charlie Gibson's lead story: TSA Effs Up Big Time, releases unredactable SOP online. Long story, not a kind word about TSA. Media finally running stories about the bozos at TSA that sound like FT threads.

Did they mention my blog?? :p

doober Dec 8, 2009 5:58 pm


Originally Posted by halls120 (Post 12950720)
The sh*t has indeed hit the fan inside DHS.

:D

Earlier this afternoon, I was going to submit a query about why Rossides, at a very minimum, had not resigned (realizing that she is only the acting administrator of TSA) or perhaps even Nappy herself but I was side tracked before I could do so.

Random_Flyer Dec 8, 2009 6:01 pm


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 12950872)
Did they mention my blog?? :p

I'll be recording the West Coast replay in a bit. ;)

Looking forward to checking it out.

Flaflyer Dec 8, 2009 6:04 pm


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 12950872)
Did they mention my blog?? :p

abcnews.go.com/Blotter/massive-tsa-security-breach-agency-secrets/story?id=9280503

I did not url short cut it as it is soooo nice to see that title on a MSM link. :p

AngryMiller Dec 8, 2009 6:17 pm


Originally Posted by Flaflyer (Post 12950944)
abcnews.go.com/Blotter/massive-tsa-security-breach-agency-secrets/story?id=9280503

I did not url short cut it as it is soooo nice to see that title on a MSM link. :p

Good find.^^^

Might want to tidy up a little bit around here. Suspect that more than a few new visitors may be dropping by to see what's up. Hope the servers can handle the traffic.:):)

IslandBased Dec 8, 2009 6:24 pm

It was on CBS news at about 6:33 this evening EST, I missed whatever was prior. If this doesn't cause TSA to do some basic rethinking, I hate to think what actually would.

Is there a small group of people with narcissistic personality disorders running TSA? :confused:

N965VJ Dec 8, 2009 6:26 pm


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 12950667)

Originally Posted by Flaflyer (Post 12950635)
For those in the air who missed it: 12/8 ABC evening news. Charlie Gibson's lead story: TSA Effs Up Big Time, releases unredactable SOP online. Long story, not a kind word about TSA. Media finally running stories about the bozos at TSA that sound like FT threads.

On the ground and missed it. Would like to find a replay somewhere.

Right now I only have a 1XRTT signal on my cellular modem so I can’t stream video very well, but I think this may be a link to Gibson’s story that was broadcast.

RadioGirl Dec 8, 2009 6:34 pm


Originally Posted by AngryMiller (Post 12951022)
Might want to tidy up a little bit around here. Suspect that more than a few new visitors may be dropping by to see what's up. Hope the servers can handle the traffic.:):)

Does TS/S usually have "27 members and 109 guests"? :D

:cool:

IslandBased Dec 8, 2009 6:35 pm


Originally Posted by N965VJ (Post 12951081)
Right now I only have a 1XRTT signal on my cellular modem so I can’t stream video very well, but I think this may be a link to Gibson’s story that was broadcast.

Keeps rerunning ads over and over again. ABC must stand for Ads But no Content. :td:

Trollkiller Dec 8, 2009 6:38 pm


Originally Posted by AngryMiller (Post 12951022)
Good find.^^^

Might want to tidy up a little bit around here. Suspect that more than a few new visitors may be dropping by to see what's up. Hope the servers can handle the traffic.:):)

Does this mean I have to put on my pants?

GUWonder Dec 8, 2009 6:40 pm


Originally Posted by IslandBased (Post 12951066)
It was on CBS news at about 6:33 this evening EST, I missed whatever was prior. If this doesn't cause TSA to do some basic rethinking, I hate to think what actually would.

Is there a small group of people with narcissistic personality disorders running TSA? :confused:

TSA is the anti-thinking agency which preys on the clueless. That's why you should expect more of the same smoke and mirrors to be put up by the TSA for which the TSA has become notorious in these parts.

RadioGirl Dec 8, 2009 6:40 pm


Originally Posted by ABC news story
"This is an appalling and astounding breach of security that terrorists could easily exploit," said Clark Kent Ervin, the former inspector general at the Department of Homeland Security.

Either Superman used to work for DHS, or this guy really should not use his middle name with the media. :D

Back on topic: gotta love all the comments at ABC screaming about how the media is helping the bad guys by reporting the story/linking the document. :rolleyes:

Boraxo Dec 8, 2009 6:47 pm

Ijust learned about this today - it's been quite a hilarious read. It's funny when this happens every once in a while as it shows how absurd some of the government's self-identified "secrets" are. Kind of like the white house party crashers, though that incident was definitely more troubling.

In a day and age where the government is trying to monitor everything under the guise of national security it is also refreshing to remember that the bureaucracy has gotten so big that basically they have lost control over what gets released through FOIA etc. and then immediately disseminated via the internet (with no need to wait for the editors at the NYT to check with their lawyers, a la the pentagon papers).

I especially like the SSSS passport list - doh! - as if we didn't already know that certain people get screened automatically.

AngryMiller Dec 8, 2009 6:48 pm

To all of the government folks spending your evening pouring over posts I wish you well. Stick around as you might learn a few things, get a couple chuckles, and feel your blood pressure rise at some of the outrages.

IslandBased Dec 8, 2009 6:48 pm


Originally Posted by RadioGirl (Post 12951171)
Either Superman used to work for DHS, or this guy really should not use his middle name with the media. :D

Back on topic: gotta love all the comments at ABC screaming about how the media is helping the bad guys by reporting the story/linking the document. :rolleyes:

Lets help TSA pull its pants back up! :p Effing stick in the mucks...:rolleyes:

Whatever happened to Freedom of the Press?:eek: Oh, ad $, sorry I asked...


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