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Originally Posted by SP03
(Post 37511303)
Don’t you think that would be confusing? It’s confusing enough that about which hotels get $250 credit. If you are on Amex forum, you still see people asking question about how to use the FHR credit even though it’s been around for years. Then add the complexity of the same hotel sometimes qualify, not other times.
I’m not saying what should or should not happen but I suspect part of the reason we are seeing it this way is that Chase is worried about causing confusion. In fact, for me, I have actually been confused in the search results since the edit flag is not actually that easily to see if you’re not looking, and even sometimes when Im not realizing that the hotel below the edit property I l just looked at isn’t. And the edit properties aren’t always the ones at the top - I’ve seen some come after non-edit options. I’d prefer a more obvious flag, and an option to filter for either edit properties or non-edit properties (or both). I also wouldn’t object to a specific search tool for edit, since I suspect many cardholders are using the portal to search for the edit properties specifically. Or at least a checkbox on the search form to only return edit properties in the results. These things would make it easier to pull the hotels many are looking for. |
Originally Posted by emcampbe
(Post 37511360)
I mean, not really. It’s either got an edit flag, or it doesn’t.
Originally Posted by emcampbe
(Post 37511360)
Plus, Chase Travel will show edit hotels in the search results for one night at a regular rate without the benefits, so if the argument is about confusion, I suspect that would be roughly equal in that meter.
Originally Posted by emcampbe
(Post 37511360)
In fact, for me, I have actually been confused in the search results since the edit flag is not actually that easily to see if you’re not looking, and even sometimes when Im not realizing that the hotel below the edit property I l just looked at isn’t. And the edit properties aren’t always the ones at the top - I’ve seen some come after non-edit options. I’d prefer a more obvious flag, and an option to filter for either edit properties or non-edit properties (or both). I also wouldn’t object to a specific search tool for edit, since I suspect many cardholders are using the portal to search for the edit properties specifically. Or at least a checkbox on the search form to only return edit properties in the results. These things would make it easier to pull the hotels many are looking for.
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Originally Posted by emcampbe
(Post 37511360)
In fact, for me, I have actually been confused in the search results since the edit flag is not actually that easily to see if you’re not looking, and even sometimes when Im not realizing that the hotel below the edit property I l just looked at isn’t.
And the edit properties aren’t always the ones at the top - I’ve seen some come after non-edit options. I’d prefer a more obvious flag, and an option to filter for either edit properties or non-edit properties (or both).
Originally Posted by friedablass
(Post 37511492)
Exactly. I don't think it would be confusing at all. If the hotel has any rooms available they should show it in the results regardless of if they can offer with Edit benefits or not.
They do show 1 night stays with Edit rates and benefits and I've actually booked them. You just don't get the $250 CSR credit if you book just 1 night. That only gets triggered by 2+ night bookings. For me the Edit properties always show up at the top I agree a filter would be helpful. But you are asking it to not just show whether a hotel belongs to Edit (which is what Amex does) but also whether an Edit rate is available. I can see people get easily confused and ask why they are not getting $250 credit when a hotel belongs on the Edit list. Again read the posts above, you would think it’s pretty obvious you get Edit benefits on a one night stay, but even avid FlyerTalkers are still mistaken and mixing multiple rules. |
Originally Posted by SP03
(Post 37511613)
The two posts above clearly show it is still confusing which hotel offers Edit benefits.
Originally Posted by SP03
(Post 37511613)
I agree a filter would be helpful. But you are asking it to not just show whether a hotel belongs to Edit (which is what Amex does) but also whether an Edit rate is available.
Originally Posted by SP03
(Post 37511613)
I can see people get easily confused and ask why they are not getting $250 credit when a hotel belongs on the Edit list.
Originally Posted by SP03
(Post 37511613)
Again read the posts above, you would think it’s pretty obvious you get Edit benefits on a one night stay, but even avid FlyerTalkers are still mistaken and mixing multiple rules.
When you search for a hotel on Amex travel you must log into your account to see results. If your account has a Plat card you will be shown FHR and THC with their respective banners. If it does not, you will see the same hotels but not as part of FHR or THC and obviously without the banners. Nothing confusing about that even though they are the same hotels. The same applies to Chase Travel - they show the banner you get the Edit benefits and for 2 nights you get the $250 credit, they don't show it, you don't get the benefits or the credit. To clarify all this, I'll use Charlottesville, VA 1/13 - 1/14 as an example (except for the screenshot showing THC banner is 1/13 - 1/15 as you can only get the banner to show for 2 nights). Keswick Hall is part of both FHR and the Edit. Kimpton IHG is part of THC but not the Edit. Search results when logged into an Amex account that has a Plat card: https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...8d03b40f2a.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...2e9af1e2ef.jpg Same account when searching one night only - the Kimpton does not show THC so no benefits or credit if you book. If this is not confusing then neither is showing a hotel that is usually part of Edit as a normal hotel without the Edit banner: https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...0ca9a4d363.jpg Search results when logged into an Amex account without a Platinum card - no banners at all: https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...61bba4995c.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...2f7628e773.jpg Search results from Chase Travel searched under CSR - shows up at the top of the list, Edit banner is clear, and so is the fact that there are benefits even just for 1 night: https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...1e70ba9349.jpg Switched to search under Preferred card - no banner, no benefits, shows up way down the list between cheap >$100 hotels. Notice that the rate is higher than The Edit which I find to be really odd: https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...76d8574ba4.jpg |
Originally Posted by friedablass
(Post 37511714)
Where does my post clearly show that it’s confusing to see which hotels offer Edit benefits? On the contrary, on my end I personally find it very easy to see which hotels are part of the Edit and which are not.
If a hotel has a banner that it belongs to Edit then the rate shown is an Edit rate. It's one and the same. If there are no more Edit rooms/ rates available for those dates then just don't show the Edit banner. You had to correct two misunderstandings from the prior post so clearly some people found it confusing (or at least did not understand the labeling correctly). |
Originally Posted by SP03
(Post 37511723)
I didn’t say you were confused.
You had to correct two misunderstandings from the prior post so clearly some people found it confusing (or at least did not understand the labeling correctly). That is true, but it could be that people are still just getting used to using the Chase Travel portal and visually seeing what is or isn't an Edit hotel. I will concur that FHR and THC banners are more prominent, but The Edit banner and showing the benefits (which you can expand by clicking on "Read more"), are not miniscule either - it's there pretty much loud and clear as shown in my above screenshot. This still doesn't address the point of them deciding to show a hotel as Sold out under the CSR while it is fully available when searched under any other card just because they don't want to give Edit benefits. The more people will use the portal, the more familiar they'll become with it. Saying that Chase thinks it will confuse some, is a poor cop-out excuse IMHO. |
Originally Posted by emcampbe
(Post 37507954)
not sure the difference in platforms, but had stays booked (some canceled) at Royal Sonesta and Kimpton via THC and none showed by default in their apps (but Kimpton recognized my IHG plat status at checkin, and welcomed me as such/provided welcome amenity at check in). Have an edit booking at JW Marriott in Feb and shows up on the Marriott app. For whatever reason, the Amex bookings don’t show up in hotel accounts, but Chase seem to. YMMV, I guess?
Originally Posted by friedablass
(Post 37507992)
I have seen this happen with quite a number of Edit hotels I was looking at. They show up as sold out as an Edit hotel when I search under my CSR card. However, not only are they available with Amex under FHR as well as on their own website, but they are also available when I search on Chase Travel under my Preferred card but in that case it's not under the Edit banner so I obviously will not get the $250 credit like that. It's very frustrating when Chase does this and I didn't only search a few scarce dates or even over a 3 week period; I did many searches over several months until the end of the availability calendar and hit the same wall with those hotels consistently showing up sold out under Edit and wide open availability everywhere else. I don't understand how Chase will show the same hotel as available not as an Edit booking but will say it's sold out when I want to book it as an Edit. And these are not cheap Vegas hotels, I'm looking at $500-$750 per night hotels so I just don't get it.
ETA: I just check PH Seol and it has this exact same issue. Search under my CSR and every single date randomly chosen for the next 12 months is sold out. Switched to my preferred and bingo it shows up with wide open availability and even has points boost at a 1.4 cpp rate. Not nice.
Originally Posted by sfgiants13
(Post 37508969)
Tried to use my credit yesterday but it remains to be seen if it’ll post today. I made a mistake in the original booking so I cancelled and rebooked yesterday which will further complicate it. I don’t see this working out in my favor. Also remains to be seen if I’ll get Marriot credit. It was a bonvoy eligible property with mgm in Vegas and I’ve seen a ton of stories of it not linking correctly specifically with there Vegas properties. Not showing in the Marriot app but I did enter my number at booking.
I think you should be fine if you booked by 12/31/25 (11:59pm), unless their system pushes your transaction date to 1/1/26, then you should make sure CSR does not use your 2026 credit and ask for a manual fix. |
Originally Posted by InFlightJay
(Post 37512228)
This was the frustrating thing. It seems like each hotel gives a certain number of inventory for the Edit and it’s a matter of luck if we can nab a room. Unless PH Seoul is very popular and there are plenty of other CSR users who want to double dip with Hyatt status. The silver lining is that Chase is very aware they need to expand their Hyatt offerings in the Edit program and intend to this year.
Originally Posted by InFlightJay
(Post 37512228)
Both my FHR and Edit Bookings were made on 12/29. CSR posted and gave me the Edit credit on 12/31, but moved my transaction date to 12/30… Amex kept my12/29 transaction date and credited on 1/1 (using 2025 credit).
I think you should be fine if you booked by 12/31/25 (11:59pm), unless their system pushes your transaction date to 1/1/26, then you should make sure CSR does not use your 2026 credit and ask for a manual fix. With Amex it is safer to do last minute bookings as they normally post it with the actual transaction date. However, with CSR the risk is much higher because, precisely as happened to you (and evidenced by it happening to many other posters), they do move the transaction date to the following day so if you book on the last day and the transaction posts on the next day it uses the new credit and you lost the old one. And there's nothing Chase will do about that. I have posted this several times already but I'll repeat it again - it happened to me on the CSR Biz with the credit that was expiring 6/30. I made a booking that day, and have the confirmation email from that day but the charge posted as 7/1 so it used the new half year credit. I could talk myself blue in the face but Chase would not budge. So people shouldn't wait until the last minute and put themselves at risk of this happening. |
Originally Posted by friedablass
(Post 37512498)
I have a hard time believing that these hotels have every single night sold out on the Edit rates for the rest of the calendar. I didn't and don't have the time to check every hotel for every single night from now to the end of the calendar, but I've done enough random searches, specifically during off-peak low season to tell me that there's something else going on here if the hotel is consistently showing up as sold out for the next year..
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Originally Posted by farnorthtrader
(Post 37512557)
100% agree. I was watching a particular hotel that I had to wait to firm up plans for. It had availability for maybe 70% of dates for the first probably 6 weeks that I watched it. Then, it had no availability for any dates at all throughout the next year. And EDIT availability at other hotels disappeared at exactly the same time as well as points boost on many/most of Air Canada and United flights also at the same time. No way that is coincidence. That is bait and switch
Plus the reduction to 1.65 cpp value for Edit bookings when using points. Also, for United flights they completely removed points boost from flights originating outside of the USA. Totally not impressed with the entire rollout of this. |
Originally Posted by InFlightJay
(Post 37512228)
I think you should be fine if you booked by 12/31/25 (11:59pm), unless their system pushes your transaction date to 1/1/26, then you should make sure CSR does not use your 2026 credit and ask for a manual fix.
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Originally Posted by sfgiants13
(Post 37512705)
It posted today but it looks like used the 2025 credits so all good.
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Originally Posted by friedablass
(Post 37512571)
Yes, this.
Plus the reduction to 1.65 cpp value for Edit bookings when using points. Also, for United flights they completely removed points boost from flights originating outside of the USA. Totally not impressed with the entire rollout of this. |
Originally Posted by InFlightJay
(Post 37512228)
I think you should be fine if you booked by 12/31/25 (11:59pm), unless their system pushes your transaction date to 1/1/26, then you should make sure CSR does not use your 2026 credit and ask for a manual fix.
As for a manual 'fix', I think that's an uphill battle you might not win. As said many times in this thread, just don't wait until last minute - and book a few days before the end of the deadline to make sure everything works. I get nervous even about using Chase Offers within 3-4 days of their expiry, since depending on how long it takes to actually process, they can actually move to 'expired' before posting (just happened to me with the UA offer, and I made the purchase on 12/26 or 27). We all do this at one point or another....I got lucky with Amex after they announced their changes very late in Q3, and literally realized on 12/30 I meant to get a gift card at the more local Resy restaurant, and did it on 12/30. It made the Q3 credit, and realize in-person is probably more realistic than online, but was close. The rule with these new 'coupon book' credit cards is to have a good way to track them, whether it's a spreadsheet, app, calendar reminders, or whatever works for you. I've also learned to be realistic, and base whether or not a card is worth it based on whether said credits/benefits actually add value for me or are useful for me. And use those, not the other ones. Credit or not, I can't afford (nor want, really) a membership to Equinox, credit or not. so I'm not chasing that with Amex - there are plenty of others that work for me. I don't use Peloton, so not making up ways to pretend I'm 'saving' by doing that (buy something on sale that I don't want or need, and I'm not actually saving anything...just spending more and helping whatever company prove their marketing works!). |
Quick sanity check. Hotels booked through Chase Travel that are NOT Edit do not get any Hotel program elite benefits/points, correct?
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