Jan 8, 2022, 5:58 pm
Last edit by: friedablass
The Ritz-Carlton Rewards VISA Infinite card was closed for applications in July 2018. The only way to obtain the Ritz card now is to Product Change from a Chase Bonvoy Bountiful or Boundless card, which must be open for a full year to be eligible for Product Change. Upgrades from free Chase Bonvoy Bold will not succeed UNLESS (a) the Bold card was obtained as a downgrade from another Chase Bonvoy card, (b) Or if you convert Bold to Boundless or Bountiful before switching once more to Ritz-Carlton within a few days of the product change (reports here)
Previous thread is here: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/chas...16-2021-a.html
Ritz card information still available on the Chase SITE.
Feature Summary:
Things qualifying/not qualifying under $300 annual travel credit
one member wrote: AA is now showing gift cards as "giftcard" rather than general purchase if the csr looks closely. Last year it worked for me, yesterday it did not and csr told me that's why. However, later the same day I also requested the credit by Secure Message (for "baggage fees) and it was approved. Very YMMV now but still doable. 2/10/2017
Southwest Airlines GCs work fairly easily. I've generally bought them for $150 and said they're excess baggage fees.
AS upgrades from coach to premium coach or first work.
Frequent Miler has a collection of data points of what has worked in the past. Link
Previous thread is here: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/chas...16-2021-a.html
Ritz card information still available on the Chase SITE.
Feature Summary:
- Annual fee of $450 NOT waived.
- 6 Marriott points per dollar at Marriott properties, including former Starwood and Ritz-Carltons.
- 3 Marriott points per dollar at restaurants, car rental companies and airline tickets purchased directly from airlines
- 2 Marriott points per dollar on all other purchases (same as all Chase & AmEx Marriott cards)
- Annual (anniversary) free night award good at any Marriott (including Ritz) property up to 85,000 MRs. Since you must wait a full year to upgrade, the earliest to get this certificate is for year 2, so upgrade can/ should done anytime before the second anniversary hits.
- Automatic Marriott Gold Status.
- Marriott Platinum Status after $75,000 card spending in a card-member year.
- $100 statement credit for Global Entry after the Global Entry program application fee is charged to an eligible card.
- $300 Annual (calendar) Travel Credit "Only the following types of non-ticket purchases qualify for this offer: airline lounge day pass, or towards a yearly lounge membership of your choice; airline seat upgrades; airline baggage fees; in-flight Internet/entertainment; in-flight meals." This does not happen automatically. It must be requested by phone or by private message.
- Three (3) Ritz Carlton Club Level upgrade certificates each year for up to 7 nights each stay. The stays must be paid stays, excluding point redemption and award night. Use code Z34 to check for price; Z38 is club upgrade code and can only be booked by phone
- Troon Rewards and PRIV ACCESS golf benefits
- $100 credit for qualifying dining, spa or other hotel recreational activities. Use the credit with any paid stay at The Ritz-Carlton of two nights or more OR get a $100 hotel credit per stay at all Marriott luxury properties. Advance reservations are required. Valid only on non-discounted rates. Cannot be combined with any packages, discounts, negotiated corporate or group rates or point-redemption bookings.
Things qualifying/not qualifying under $300 annual travel credit
one member wrote: AA is now showing gift cards as "giftcard" rather than general purchase if the csr looks closely. Last year it worked for me, yesterday it did not and csr told me that's why. However, later the same day I also requested the credit by Secure Message (for "baggage fees) and it was approved. Very YMMV now but still doable. 2/10/2017
Southwest Airlines GCs work fairly easily. I've generally bought them for $150 and said they're excess baggage fees.
AS upgrades from coach to premium coach or first work.
Frequent Miler has a collection of data points of what has worked in the past. Link
Ritz-Carlton VISA Infinite. Available by PC from Bountiful/Boundless. (2022 - 2024)
Jan 4, 2023 | 4:56 pm
#346
Join Date: Nov 2007
Programs: Marriott Bonvoy Platinum, Hilton Honors Diamond, Delta Gold
Posts: 6,534
You can PC Bold to Boundless and then Ritz. Check the Ritz thread but I think some have had success going straight from Bold to Ritz under certain circumstances which I'm not sure applies to you.
Last edited by mia; Jan 6, 2023 at 10:30 am Reason: Consolidate discussion of Ritz card in one thread.
Jan 4, 2023 | 5:16 pm
#347
Join Date: Jan 2023
Location: Bay Area
Programs: Hilton Diamond
Posts: 38
I think with the dynamic pricing of Marriott it would be a no brainer to switch to Ritz after 1 year holding the Boundless card. P2 plans to do so
Jan 4, 2023 | 5:33 pm
#348
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 84
Ritz to ???? Then back to ritz
Hi I have a question, I currently have the Ritz card (from upgrade from Marriott premier card years ago) and want to apply for Bonvoy brilliant. Wondering if this would work, downgrade ritz to boundless, wait 90 days, apply for brilliant, wait one year, upgrade boundless back to ritz. Anyone have experience doing this? Thanks
Jan 4, 2023 | 6:00 pm
#349
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 55
Hi,
Just recently learned about the RC card (late, I know) and reading some of the recent data points, it sounds like if I want the RC card, it is guaranteed (if Chase doesn't change their rules or restrict product changing to the RC card) if I apply for the Boundless card and then ask for a PC to the RC card 12 months later compared to applying for the Bold card. Is this accurate? Thanks!
Also, for those who have the RC card and possibly the Sapphire Reserve (or had it), would you say you value one more than the other? I know it may be comparing apples to oranges, but I am open to hearing what others think. I used to have the CSR, but cancelled it to open a CSP for the 100k sub. I am now conflicted on either upgrading back to the CSR or keeping the CSP and trying for the RC card.
Just recently learned about the RC card (late, I know) and reading some of the recent data points, it sounds like if I want the RC card, it is guaranteed (if Chase doesn't change their rules or restrict product changing to the RC card) if I apply for the Boundless card and then ask for a PC to the RC card 12 months later compared to applying for the Bold card. Is this accurate? Thanks!
Also, for those who have the RC card and possibly the Sapphire Reserve (or had it), would you say you value one more than the other? I know it may be comparing apples to oranges, but I am open to hearing what others think. I used to have the CSR, but cancelled it to open a CSP for the 100k sub. I am now conflicted on either upgrading back to the CSR or keeping the CSP and trying for the RC card.
Jan 4, 2023 | 6:04 pm
#350
Join Date: Jan 2023
Location: Bay Area
Programs: Hilton Diamond
Posts: 38
Hi,
Just recently learned about the RC card (late, I know) and reading some of the recent data points, it sounds like if I want the RC card, it is guaranteed (if Chase doesn't change their rules or restrict product changing to the RC card) if I apply for the Boundless card and then ask for a PC to the RC card 12 months later compared to applying for the Bold card. Is this accurate? Thanks!
Also, for those who have the RC card and possibly the Sapphire Reserve (or had it), would you say you value one more than the other? I know it may be comparing apples to oranges, but I am open to hearing what others think. I used to have the CSR, but cancelled it to open a CSP for the 100k sub. I am now conflicted on either upgrading back to the CSR or keeping the CSP and trying for the RC card.
Just recently learned about the RC card (late, I know) and reading some of the recent data points, it sounds like if I want the RC card, it is guaranteed (if Chase doesn't change their rules or restrict product changing to the RC card) if I apply for the Boundless card and then ask for a PC to the RC card 12 months later compared to applying for the Bold card. Is this accurate? Thanks!
Also, for those who have the RC card and possibly the Sapphire Reserve (or had it), would you say you value one more than the other? I know it may be comparing apples to oranges, but I am open to hearing what others think. I used to have the CSR, but cancelled it to open a CSP for the 100k sub. I am now conflicted on either upgrading back to the CSR or keeping the CSP and trying for the RC card.
For CSR v.s. Ritz, there are other cards that have comparable or even better benefits than CSR now given that CSR loses the pay-yourself-back at 1.5 cents/point. I would go for the Ritz-Carlton card instead of the CSR.
Jan 4, 2023 | 6:09 pm
#351
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 55
Yes it is correct. Product change should be free of problems.
For CSR v.s. Ritz, there are other cards that have comparable or even better benefits than CSR now given that CSR loses the pay-yourself-back at 1.5 cents/point. I would go for the Ritz-Carlton card instead of the CSR.
For CSR v.s. Ritz, there are other cards that have comparable or even better benefits than CSR now given that CSR loses the pay-yourself-back at 1.5 cents/point. I would go for the Ritz-Carlton card instead of the CSR.
Jan 4, 2023 | 6:24 pm
#352
Join Date: Jan 2023
Location: Bay Area
Programs: Hilton Diamond
Posts: 38
Capital One's Venture X for example has the same multiplier for bookings made through the travel portal (10x) and has 2x points on all spendings. It no longer covers the restaurant access at PP lounges though but that is the only drawback. It also has cheaper annual fees compared with CSR and also a 10K annual bonus. I think it's a good idea to keep CSP so that you can continue to transfer UR to Hyatt and UA, and open another high-end travel card such as Venture X or Ritz-Carlton if you want.
Jan 4, 2023 | 8:04 pm
#353
Join Date: May 2022
Posts: 3,086
I think only if you previously/initially had boundless
Jan 6, 2023 | 9:53 am
#354
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: ATL, BHM, DUB, County Wexford
Programs: DL DM, AA ExPlt, Diamond HH, HY, BW, & Titanium Elite Marriott
Posts: 5,221
Not sure - but I'm doing the same thing. REALLY ticked off about this process. My Chase banker literally told me to apply for the Bold to get the Ritz card, but that I'd need to wait a year. Waited a year and now not an option, so going to try the change to Bountiful, followed by an attempted change to the Ritz in 2 weeks. If it doesn't work, will downgrade the Bountiful back to Bold to avoid the annual fee. What an utter waste of a 5/24 slot...
Last edited by EasternTraveler; Jan 6, 2023 at 10:50 am
Jan 6, 2023 | 10:00 am
#355
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: ATL, BHM, DUB, County Wexford
Programs: DL DM, AA ExPlt, Diamond HH, HY, BW, & Titanium Elite Marriott
Posts: 5,221
I have confirmed with Chase that Bold is ineligible because it is a no-annual fee card.
I am just curious how long you have to wait after PC to Bountiful to PC to RC? days, weeks, or a year. I have heard all sorts of answers.
I am just curious how long you have to wait after PC to Bountiful to PC to RC? days, weeks, or a year. I have heard all sorts of answers.
Jan 6, 2023 | 10:52 am
#356
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: ATL, BHM, DUB, County Wexford
Programs: DL DM, AA ExPlt, Diamond HH, HY, BW, & Titanium Elite Marriott
Posts: 5,221
Jan 6, 2023 | 11:09 am
#358
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: ATL, BHM, DUB, County Wexford
Programs: DL DM, AA ExPlt, Diamond HH, HY, BW, & Titanium Elite Marriott
Posts: 5,221
Starting last year, the only offer to PC from Bold is to Bountiful, not Boundless. I would a whole lot rather have the Boundless than the Bountiful. Bountiful offers nothing better and costs more.
Jan 6, 2023 | 12:15 pm
#359
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Baltimore/Washington, USA
Programs: AA LT Platinum, Hilton LT Diamond, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 3,117
You're correct. If you product change in February. you won't receive the upgraded 50,000 certificate until your next card anniversary in February, but you will have access to the $300 travel credit immediately and will also have in beginning January, 2023. Good Luck.
Jan 6, 2023 | 12:28 pm
#360
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: ATL, BHM, DUB, County Wexford
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