Jun 12, 2016, 10:18 pm
Last edit by: Calchas
As of 1 January 2017, CX will interline on separate tickets to their airline partners once again.
to 31 Dec 2016 CX Agents' advisory http://www.cxagents.com/cxa/gc/en_HK/ln2
from 1 Jan 2017 http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...e-tickets.html
Ausbt article: http://www.ausbt.com.au/cathay-pacif...-baggage-rules
http://www.ausbt.com.au/did-oneworld...of-a-nightmare
http://www.ausbt.com.au/oneworld-air...ecting-flights
AA: will not check through separate PNRs (own or partner) https://ssc.aa.com/prmportal_enu/Age...%20Tickets.pdf
MH: still check through two PNRs (own or partner)
CX/KA: check through CX/KA separate PNRs. Will resume checking through to partners starting 1 Jan 2017 http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...e-tickets.html
JL: Will through check. http://www.jal.co.jp/en/info/inter/161003.html
QR: will check through separate PNRs (own or partner) from 01 MAR. https://www.ausbt.com.au/qatar-airways-ditches-oneworld-s-restrictive-baggage-rules
QF: Will check through QF to QF separate PNRs, will not check through partner separate PNRs (from 1 Sep 2016)
BA: Will not check through partner or other airlines' separate PNRs. WIll not check through BA-BA on seperate PNR's (as of 15 Nov 16)
IB: Will check through IB to IB separate PNRs
LA: will not check through separate PNRs (own or partner)
AY: Will check through AY to AY separate PNRs, will not check through partner separate PNRs
to 31 Dec 2016 CX Agents' advisory http://www.cxagents.com/cxa/gc/en_HK/ln2
from 1 Jan 2017 http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...e-tickets.html
Ausbt article: http://www.ausbt.com.au/cathay-pacif...-baggage-rules
http://www.ausbt.com.au/did-oneworld...of-a-nightmare
http://www.ausbt.com.au/oneworld-air...ecting-flights
AA: will not check through separate PNRs (own or partner) https://ssc.aa.com/prmportal_enu/Age...%20Tickets.pdf
MH: still check through two PNRs (own or partner)
CX/KA: check through CX/KA separate PNRs. Will resume checking through to partners starting 1 Jan 2017 http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...e-tickets.html
JL: Will through check. http://www.jal.co.jp/en/info/inter/161003.html
QR: will check through separate PNRs (own or partner) from 01 MAR. https://www.ausbt.com.au/qatar-airways-ditches-oneworld-s-restrictive-baggage-rules
QF: Will check through QF to QF separate PNRs, will not check through partner separate PNRs (from 1 Sep 2016)
BA: Will not check through partner or other airlines' separate PNRs. WIll not check through BA-BA on seperate PNR's (as of 15 Nov 16)
IB: Will check through IB to IB separate PNRs
LA: will not check through separate PNRs (own or partner)
AY: Will check through AY to AY separate PNRs, will not check through partner separate PNRs
CX WILL interline to other oneworld airlines if travelling on separate PNRs
Jun 22, 2016, 9:54 pm
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Jun 22, 2016, 11:34 pm
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Jun 23, 2016, 2:50 am
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Jun 23, 2016, 7:24 am
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Jun 23, 2016, 5:15 pm
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That's out of line, as long as One World has not changed its policy. The current policy is that any same day OW boarding pass will get you in!
Jun 24, 2016, 12:23 am
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But it all worked out well, into the UK via AMS, out via ZRH meant I gave the very minimum to BA for my travel on them to connect with my CX flights.
Jun 24, 2016, 1:22 am
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Found PTS to be pretty sloppy when I was still cardholder.
Jun 24, 2016, 2:24 am
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PTS, yes. Very pleasant but ultimately didn't have a clue as to the rules. On the other hand the first I heard of this change was here on FT so I guess it hasn't been widely publicised by the airlines to their passengers.
Jun 25, 2016, 2:08 am
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A couple of questions on this:
1) since this is flyertalk, presumably the main reason people in this forum have two PNRs because we're mixing redemption and paid ticket. Can/will TA merge your PNRs if u redeem online/through MPC and buy the paid ticket from TA?
2) For 2 paid tickets, if you buy one now and one much later (say due to change of plan) from the same TA, can they still merge it? I guess I'm wondering if a TA can add a second ticket to the PNR months after it is issued.
1) since this is flyertalk, presumably the main reason people in this forum have two PNRs because we're mixing redemption and paid ticket. Can/will TA merge your PNRs if u redeem online/through MPC and buy the paid ticket from TA?
2) For 2 paid tickets, if you buy one now and one much later (say due to change of plan) from the same TA, can they still merge it? I guess I'm wondering if a TA can add a second ticket to the PNR months after it is issued.
If you book and paid for your ticket (award or revenue) somewhere else and asks your TA to add that info to your ticket you're buying from him/her, the information is not 'live' which means that the airline effective sees it as two separate reservations.
So say :
Main PNR - XYXYXY
CX 123 Y 12JUL HKGSYD HK1 (booked through TA) Record locator: XYXYXY
LA 121 Y 13JUL SYDAKL GK1 (award booking) Record locator : BLANK
So when CX looks at the booking, it will only see CX as live and LA as 'info' only. LA basically has its own Record locator and it won't be the same as the CX one.
In order to have all PNR under one record locator, you need to book all segments in the same GDS. But you may ticket them separately.
I will use SABRE GDS as an example :
Main PNR - ABCDEF
CX 123 Y 12JUL HKGSYD HK1 (booked through TA) Record locator: XYXYXY
LA 121 Y 13JUL SYDAKL GK1 (award booking) Record locator : QRSTUV
When CX pulls up the booking, it will see both reservations under one main PNR even though LA has its own PNR.
It might be simpler if everyone has AMADEUS - which CX, QF, BA, IB does...
so if you book through an AMDEUS equipped TA, all bookings will show under the same PNR even though you might have ticketed them separately.
Jun 25, 2016, 7:05 am
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Its not that simple...
If you book and paid for your ticket (award or revenue) somewhere else and asks your TA to add that info to your ticket you're buying from him/her, the information is not 'live' which means that the airline effective sees it as two separate reservations.
So say :
Main PNR - XYXYXY
CX 123 Y 12JUL HKGSYD HK1 (booked through TA) Record locator: XYXYXY
LA 121 Y 13JUL SYDAKL GK1 (award booking) Record locator : BLANK
So when CX looks at the booking, it will only see CX as live and LA as 'info' only. LA basically has its own Record locator and it won't be the same as the CX one.
In order to have all PNR under one record locator, you need to book all segments in the same GDS. But you may ticket them separately.
I will use SABRE GDS as an example :
Main PNR - ABCDEF
CX 123 Y 12JUL HKGSYD HK1 (booked through TA) Record locator: XYXYXY
LA 121 Y 13JUL SYDAKL GK1 (award booking) Record locator : QRSTUV
When CX pulls up the booking, it will see both reservations under one main PNR even though LA has its own PNR.
It might be simpler if everyone has AMADEUS - which CX, QF, BA, IB does...
so if you book through an AMDEUS equipped TA, all bookings will show under the same PNR even though you might have ticketed them separately.
If you book and paid for your ticket (award or revenue) somewhere else and asks your TA to add that info to your ticket you're buying from him/her, the information is not 'live' which means that the airline effective sees it as two separate reservations.
So say :
Main PNR - XYXYXY
CX 123 Y 12JUL HKGSYD HK1 (booked through TA) Record locator: XYXYXY
LA 121 Y 13JUL SYDAKL GK1 (award booking) Record locator : BLANK
So when CX looks at the booking, it will only see CX as live and LA as 'info' only. LA basically has its own Record locator and it won't be the same as the CX one.
In order to have all PNR under one record locator, you need to book all segments in the same GDS. But you may ticket them separately.
I will use SABRE GDS as an example :
Main PNR - ABCDEF
CX 123 Y 12JUL HKGSYD HK1 (booked through TA) Record locator: XYXYXY
LA 121 Y 13JUL SYDAKL GK1 (award booking) Record locator : QRSTUV
When CX pulls up the booking, it will see both reservations under one main PNR even though LA has its own PNR.
It might be simpler if everyone has AMADEUS - which CX, QF, BA, IB does...
so if you book through an AMDEUS equipped TA, all bookings will show under the same PNR even though you might have ticketed them separately.
Last edited by kehkh; Jun 25, 2016 at 7:35 am
Jun 26, 2016, 6:21 pm
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I believe they must be the same booking. Showing up in your MPC account is probably not enough.
Jun 27, 2016, 12:58 am
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so from reading the wiki, CX will check your bag to your destination when flying on two separate PNRs (CX to CX/KA). how about protection in case there's a delay. Would they book me on the next CX/KA flight?
I'm flying AKL-HKG on one AS-award and HKG-PVG on a second BA-award. I'm hoping they'll check me in for both flights in AKL and are able to protect me just in case the flight from AKL is delayed.
I'm flying AKL-HKG on one AS-award and HKG-PVG on a second BA-award. I'm hoping they'll check me in for both flights in AKL and are able to protect me just in case the flight from AKL is delayed.
Jun 28, 2016, 3:32 am
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so from reading the wiki, CX will check your bag to your destination when flying on two separate PNRs (CX to CX/KA). how about protection in case there's a delay. Would they book me on the next CX/KA flight?
I'm flying AKL-HKG on one AS-award and HKG-PVG on a second BA-award. I'm hoping they'll check me in for both flights in AKL and are able to protect me just in case the flight from AKL is delayed.
I'm flying AKL-HKG on one AS-award and HKG-PVG on a second BA-award. I'm hoping they'll check me in for both flights in AKL and are able to protect me just in case the flight from AKL is delayed.
See 10.2.2 of this: https://www.cathaypacific.com/conten...baggage-en.pdf
Jun 28, 2016, 5:36 am
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Anyone has experience about the following?
Fly CX HKG-CMB, 4 hours later, QR CMB-DOH-BOS.
Is there a chance I could ask the check in agent to interline my baggage to BOS? Would being a CX DM help?
If yes, I guess I should be able to get all 3 boarding passes.
If not, would I still be able to get my onward QR boarding pass from CX?
Thanks very much.
Fly CX HKG-CMB, 4 hours later, QR CMB-DOH-BOS.
Is there a chance I could ask the check in agent to interline my baggage to BOS? Would being a CX DM help?
If yes, I guess I should be able to get all 3 boarding passes.
If not, would I still be able to get my onward QR boarding pass from CX?
Thanks very much.