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smallben Mar 11, 2025 10:03 pm


Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 36950725)
I know you've read it before, but my thought (or rather, speculation) remains the same,

I am not a frequent flyer, but genuinely enjoy leisure travel. My family and I travel four to five times a year, primarily with CX, allowing us to reach SL.

Admittance to J lounge is a significant advantage of CX SL indeed. If this privilege were to be removed, there would be little reason to prefer CX when other carriers offer more competitive rates.

Of course, we are just a tiny minor fraction of CX's business. Perhaps we really are not loyal enough, but these changes would be quite disappointing.:(

wadia13 Mar 12, 2025 3:10 am

If CX's goal is to restrict access to its lounges as much as possible, I don't think they would have a co-branded credit card in HK that allows even CX GREEN members who fly ECONOMY (on CX metal) to use their J & (even) F lounges. And, yet, they do! And this program was only launched within the last few years (post Covid), not something launched a long time ago that they are looking to cancel soon.

lsquare Mar 12, 2025 3:34 am


Originally Posted by wadia13 (Post 36952576)
If CX's goal is to restrict access to its lounges as much as possible, I don't think they would have a co-branded credit card in HK that allows even CX GREEN members who fly ECONOMY (on CX metal) to use their J & (even) F lounges. And, yet, they do! And this program was only launched within the last few years (post Covid), not something launched a long time ago that they are looking to cancel soon.

Which card is that?

cxwaterboy Mar 12, 2025 3:45 am


Originally Posted by wadia13 (Post 36952576)
If CX's goal is to restrict access to its lounges as much as possible, I don't think they would have a co-branded credit card in HK that allows even CX GREEN members who fly ECONOMY (on CX metal) to use their J & (even) F lounges. And, yet, they do! And this program was only launched within the last few years (post Covid), not something launched a long time ago that they are looking to cancel soon.


Originally Posted by lsquare (Post 36952600)
Which card is that?

The Standard Chartered ones. It is noticeable that the J lounges are very busy. I don't have the numbers but it definitely contributes to overcrowding. But I suppose they make too much money from whipping credit cards to stop.

lsquare Mar 12, 2025 3:49 am


Originally Posted by cxwaterboy (Post 36952611)
The Standard Chartered ones. It is noticeable that the J lounges are very busy. I don't have the numbers but it definitely contributes to overcrowding. But I suppose they make too much money from whipping credit cards to stop.

It doesn't appear to be unlimited access. Just a limited number of visits. My OWE status gives me unlimited access as long as I fly OW.

cxwaterboy Mar 12, 2025 3:51 am


Originally Posted by lsquare (Post 36952618)
It doesn't appear to be unlimited access. Just a limited number of visits. My OWE status gives me unlimited access as long as I fly OW.

The overcrowding problem is more focused on the J lounges. Anyone can issue one of the cheaper cards and get 4 visits per year.

lsquare Mar 12, 2025 4:00 am


Originally Posted by cxwaterboy (Post 36952621)
The overcrowding problem is more focused on the J lounges. Anyone can issue one of the cheaper cards and get 4 visits per year.

It's that bad now? I haven't been to CX J at HKG since I became an OWE. I just go to the F lounges. Haven't noticed any crowding during my visits to the Pier. Maybe I got lucky!

jyuen Mar 12, 2025 4:39 am


Originally Posted by thomas164 (Post 36950117)
Judging by the name of Diamond and Diamond plus, It simply makes very little sense CX will devalue diamond to OWS. It would have been called Gold plus, rather than Diamond on a 5-tier system.

For me, Diamond plus sounds like OWE-equivalent with additional written benefits, so ppl will still use their status and collect miles on MPC after passing the 1200 mark or other milestones (eg. 1800).

Hope they don’t jack up the points requirement for DM plus. Was told someone was on 9000 points last year ! I hope the back office didn’t use his or hers flying pattern as a guideline haha

cxwaterboy Mar 12, 2025 4:46 am


Originally Posted by jyuen (Post 36952686)
Hope they don’t jack up the points requirement for DM plus. Was told someone was on 9000 points last year ! I hope the back office didn’t use his or hers flying pattern as a guideline haha

ATM only CX metal counts for DMP. The rumoured number was 500K HKD, including tax and fees. I'm sure there are more qualified folks here to comment on that. I'm just a normal person that CX is trying to evict from the F lounges.

jyuen Mar 12, 2025 4:57 am


Originally Posted by cxwaterboy (Post 36952699)
ATM only CX metal counts for DMP. The rumoured number was 500K HKD, including tax and fees. I'm sure there are more qualified folks here to comment on that. I'm just a normal person that CX is trying to evict from the F lounges.

ouch.

Same boat here

Bigu2023 Mar 12, 2025 5:15 am

I recall someone mentioned earlier that 2 HKG-TPE round trips in J class per month could make DMP? (Sorry - couldn't find from this very long chain...)

CX860 Mar 12, 2025 5:16 am


Originally Posted by cxwaterboy (Post 36952699)
ATM only CX metal counts for DMP. The rumoured number was 500K HKD, including tax and fees. I'm sure there are more qualified folks here to comment on that. I'm just a normal person that CX is trying to evict from the F lounges.

I think Solitaire PPS is 50k SGD which is about 300k HKD so DMP is almost twice as steep.

CX HK Mar 12, 2025 5:51 am


Originally Posted by CX860 (Post 36952741)
I think Solitaire PPS is 50k SGD which is about 300k HKD so DMP is almost twice as steep.

Well, still a much better deal than BA GGL at 65k GBP (excluding taxes!)

KhemaneyBoy Mar 12, 2025 6:27 am


Originally Posted by ABC Traveler (Post 36951609)
They are crunching the numbers now, but yes, the goal is they are trying to find a way to reduce the bottom 5-10% of GO members and come up with a new system that drops them down to SL. It's two objectives: higher fare flyers will be rewarded to higher tiers more easily; lower-fare flyers will find it harder to attain premium tiers. If you are struggling to make GO now, and don't see an increase of premium flying in the future, I would start working out a plan B.

So you're telling us that not only will they cut lounge access for SL, but they'd increase the status points requirements for GO??

KhemaneyBoy Mar 12, 2025 7:04 am


Originally Posted by smallben (Post 36952215)
I am not a frequent flyer, but genuinely enjoy leisure travel. My family and I travel four to five times a year, primarily with CX, allowing us to reach SL.

Admittance to J lounge is a significant advantage of CX SL indeed. If this privilege were to be removed, there would be little reason to prefer CX when other carriers offer more competitive rates.

Of course, we are just a tiny minor fraction of CX's business. Perhaps we really are not loyal enough, but these changes would be quite disappointing.:(

Like you I'm an SL, and I have a decent chance of making it to GO before my renewal. If they remove lounge access for SL's and make it harder to attain GO (hoping none of this happens), I don't see myself flying on CX metal for the forseeable future as there is no reason to pay the pricey fares and get less benefits in return. I would argue that CX SL is already the hardest Oneworld Ruby status to earn, and reducing any benefit for that matter would be disappointing.


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