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djsflynn Oct 16, 2024 9:52 am


Originally Posted by cxwaterboy (Post 36601254)
Is it true that the 77As (the ones with F) will not go under the knife?

I don't believe so.

Vivian Lo held two brief Q&A sessions – one for Chinese-language media, the other for international English-speaking media (I'm told there were ~100 media tonight) and while I can't speak for what may have been shared in the Chinese-language briefing, when I asked her about this in our briefing she indicated the 77As would still be converted to Aria but (as she's stated before) they'd be at the back of the queue to provide 'crossover' with the new 777-9s to retain "a core network of first class.... there will be less flex but there still be a core operation."

FYI, was told (not by Vivian) the revised 777-9 delivery timeframe is 1H26, CX is #50 in the queue with LH as launch customer, but once the 777-9s gets certified there's a very large batch of 'em ready to go, so it'll almost be like turning on the hose.

VE105 Oct 16, 2024 9:55 am


Originally Posted by nomadabroad (Post 36601194)
agreed but geometrically based on how the seat is designed that would be impossible, directly behind the TV is the enclosed storage cabinet for the seat in front of you so there really is no space for it to “retract” or move back anywhere.

The foundation of the seat seems to be based on the newer Collins Elements but heavily customised for CX, structurally by design the screens cannot be retracted because that’s how they’ve managed to fit everything and is the typical layout for these collins seats, probably not even a configuration option. If they really want the TV screens to be retractable (similar to current one) then it would mean choosing an entirely different seat design to begin with.

by comparison I now feel the design of current generation business class seat is so damn smart...doesn't really have the common drawbacks of reverse herringbone seats, they must be so revolutionary when first introduced.

majorpuppy Oct 16, 2024 10:14 am

im glad they are some innovative things like the bathroom status feature, and the new IFE looks very convenient and you can seemingly go to anywhere with one click, and it isn't only doors + wireless charging+ Bluetooth. its very nice. with this, I'm sure SQ would have to respond sometime soon.

i kinda wished they used curtains (maybe not full-height ones) just like AF instead of doors, there could potentially be a lot more space to widen the seat and footwell.

cxwaterboy Oct 16, 2024 10:15 am


Originally Posted by VE105 (Post 36601281)
by comparison I now feel the design of current generation business class seat is so damn smart...doesn't really have the common drawbacks of reverse herringbone seats, they must be so revolutionary when first introduced.

I agree. Apart from the 777 IFE and lack of privacy partitions, it is a damn good product. Yes it doesn’t have gimmicks such as doors or double beds but it does the job. Not bad for an outdated product.

VE105 Oct 16, 2024 10:17 am


Originally Posted by cxwaterboy (Post 36601327)
I agree. Apart from the 777 IFE and lack of privacy partitions, it is a damn good product. Yes it doesn’t have gimmicks such as doors or double beds but it does the job. Not bad for an outdated product.

so the A350 window seats are just perfect for me :star::star:

VE105 Oct 16, 2024 10:18 am


Originally Posted by majorpuppy (Post 36601323)
im glad they are some innovative things like the bathroom status feature, and the new IFE looks very convenient and you can seemingly go to anywhere with one click, and it isn't only doors + wireless charging+ Bluetooth. with this, I'm sure SQ would have to respond sometime soon.

i think if they used curtains (maybe not full-height ones) just like AF instead of doors, there would be far more space, no footwell problem and the privacy would remain the same.

the footwell problem is due to the TV or the door or both?
do you mean that with the original design (retractable TV), a door cannot be installed?

cxwaterboy Oct 16, 2024 10:29 am


Originally Posted by VE105 (Post 36601334)
so the A350 window seats are just perfect for me :star::star:

Yeah there’s a lot of privacy within the current generation of seats, especially when you’re in a window seat. Unless you turn your head 90 degrees, you couldn’t see the person next to you. That’s why I think the door is a marketing tactic.

FantasieAX Oct 16, 2024 11:25 am

Am I the only one wondering how the armrest works? lol

djsflynn Oct 16, 2024 11:48 am


Originally Posted by FantasieAX (Post 36601526)
Am I the only one wondering how the armrest works? lol

Every first-time Aria flyer will be wondering this! Once you get it, though, it's elegant simplicity. There's a 'lever' built into and just under the leading edge of the armrest (by memory I think it pokes out just a smidge so as to provide a subtle visual clue) – you gently press this and the armrest moves up and into position as an armrest, or it drops down and moves outwards until it becomes a flat surface to effectively extend the width of the bed (or seat) at that point. It's a very smooth continuous range of movement.

derek2010 Oct 16, 2024 6:41 pm

Is that CX needs to wait for at least the second fleet becomes 77J (like B-KQT) for deploying to longer flights ?

HawaiiO Oct 16, 2024 8:20 pm


Originally Posted by djsflynn (Post 36601151)
The brand is 'Waken'. Unpacked CX amenity kit shown. No idea if this kit will be exclusive to Aria or across the fleet.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...1d9dcae02f.jpg


New amenity kit bag looks quite stylish!
I like the bright color, hope there will be some color variations.

HawaiiO Oct 16, 2024 8:25 pm


Originally Posted by nomadabroad (Post 36601053)
Found a clear pic re the footwell situation..
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...27970c7f8.jpeg

wow... def looks a lot more cramped than the current a350/330 seat...
Not a fan of such cramped legroom...feels claustrophobic even though it might not be that tight.
In contrast, NH new J has huge legroom and feels like a F seat.

The left side angled wall might be a problem for people with longer legs who want to stretch out.

The bulkhead seats are gonna be very popular as those will prob have much more legroom, similar to the AF seats

djsflynn Oct 16, 2024 8:39 pm


Originally Posted by derek2010 (Post 36602496)
Is that CX needs to wait for at least the second fleet becomes 77J (like B-KQT) for deploying to longer flights ?

CX is waiting to have three refurb'd birds before locking in its first long-haul route, which will then allow it to declare one flight on that route to be the Aria flight. Vivian Lo last night said that route would be "Europe", so until then we'd likely see the two upgraded 777s doing a daily dash on short-medium haul routes, and probably again locking in one flight as the Aria flight.

FantasieAX Oct 16, 2024 8:42 pm


Originally Posted by djsflynn (Post 36601573)
Every first-time Aria flyer will be wondering this! Once you get it, though, it's elegant simplicity. There's a 'lever' built into and just under the leading edge of the armrest (by memory I think it pokes out just a smidge so as to provide a subtle visual clue) – you gently press this and the armrest moves up and into position as an armrest, or it drops down and moves outwards until it becomes a flat surface to effectively extend the width of the bed (or seat) at that point. It's a very smooth continuous range of movement.

Thank you! Never seen that on other carrier. Appreciate they still put effort on extend the size of the bed.

djsflynn Oct 16, 2024 8:59 pm


Originally Posted by FantasieAX (Post 36602699)
Thank you! Never seen that on other carrier. Appreciate they still put effort on extend the size of the bed.

Pics of the armrest up and down – and my mistake, the little lever is fully concealed beneath the armrest, in the 'up' position the slim silver strip shows only due to the different angle of the pic.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...d044e19a50.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...58944770a1.jpg


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