Cathay First is overrated
#31
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 74
I started to use CX as an alternative to LH during the recurring strike periods. Started to really like the product (hard and soft), I feel they are very consistent. On board food is other story , especially the main dishes, also the lounges from europe DUS, ZRH are a mess and not really F lounges. Nothing to complain about the lounges in HKG. I think the overall product is great and I'm already looking forward to fly it again.
Feel sorry the OP had a bad experience. So far from my side, it never went that wrong.
Feel sorry the OP had a bad experience. So far from my side, it never went that wrong.
#32



Join Date: Nov 2008
Programs: SPG-Plat, Hilton-Diamond, Club Carlson-Silver, Cathay-Diamond, Virgin-Gold
Posts: 2,247
I get help with carry-on almost all the time-personnel asks for assistance, or just grab it - especially if they see I have a few items. The Pier has a very thick carpet, and it is extremely hard to drag something over it, but a girl I asked about foot massage (they were booked for the next five hours, so I didn`t get it either-and so no cabanas at The Wings-they said no chance) just took off, and I followed her with my few carry ons. This is NOT acceptable for First Class service no matter if you personally ever received such help.
I have to say I am struggling to understand exactly what you requested and who from. Who exactly did you follow with your carry ons?
#34
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: East Coast
Posts: 1,018
I started to use CX as an alternative to LH during the recurring strike periods. Started to really like the product (hard and soft), I feel they are very consistent. On board food is other story , especially the main dishes, also the lounges from europe DUS, ZRH are a mess and not really F lounges. Nothing to complain about the lounges in HKG. I think the overall product is great and I'm already looking forward to fly it again.
Feel sorry the OP had a bad experience. So far from my side, it never went that wrong.
Feel sorry the OP had a bad experience. So far from my side, it never went that wrong.
If my experience is not typical for in-flight part, then I guess I should write to CX instead of here.
#37
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: East Coast
Posts: 1,018
At least UA is not overrated and is what it is. CX is hugely overrated. I guess by those who only compare it to the worst, and not, such as myself, to the best.
#38
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I think CX F has gone downhill in the last year or so, and I agree CX F may be overhyped. I prefer JL F.
However, CX is still excellent in the grand scheme of things, and I think some of the criticisms are somewhat unfair. There is a toothbrush in the amenity kit. Why do you need two pajamas? CX crews are reactive, unlike SQ crews, and you have to learn to push the call button. CX food has never been its high point, especially the western mains, but the Chinese options and snack menu are decent--so knowing what to order is key. Not having 1/2 of the wine list is indeed unacceptable, as well as the messy lounge.
Ultimately, is CX F perfect? No. Is it overhyped? Perhaps. Is it still a top notch F product? I think so.
However, CX is still excellent in the grand scheme of things, and I think some of the criticisms are somewhat unfair. There is a toothbrush in the amenity kit. Why do you need two pajamas? CX crews are reactive, unlike SQ crews, and you have to learn to push the call button. CX food has never been its high point, especially the western mains, but the Chinese options and snack menu are decent--so knowing what to order is key. Not having 1/2 of the wine list is indeed unacceptable, as well as the messy lounge.
Ultimately, is CX F perfect? No. Is it overhyped? Perhaps. Is it still a top notch F product? I think so.
I also believe the OP is making the mistake of judging one or two segments as an entire airline F experience for all F routes for that airline. That's a fallacy that is commonly made. I don't doubt that the crew might have been less than stellar on one segment. I don't doubt the food/wine selection might have been less than stellar on one segment. I also don't doubt that these are not necessarily reflective of the overall service and food/beverage available on most CX F flights.
I had a stupendous UA GF LAX-LHR flight in Dec 2014--which was far better in terms of service, food, and IFE than a return flight on EK F CPT-DXB in Jan 2015. That being said, I can't and won't declare broadly that UA GF is better than EK F or that EK F is overrated. Especially since our EK F DXB-LAX flight was perhaps the best flight I've yet enjoyed. I just had one very disappointing EK F experience and one very impressive UA GF experience...and another amazing EK F experience.
I also agree that our OP is being a bit nit-picky and unfairly demanding when it comes to luggage service in a lounge and a toothbrush in an airline F bathroom.
OTOH, I will enjoy not competing with our OP for any future award F seats on CX. So fret away, OP!
#40
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: East Coast
Posts: 1,018
JL has the best in-flight F service overall among all airlines - you can`t deny that. It`s lounges are not great, the food is so-so, but they excel in in-flight service! And for that reason, it is above CX.
#41


Join Date: Nov 2007
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I don't fly nearly as much as the fellow on here who has done 40 F sectors this year, but I've done perhaps 10x this year on CX and maybe 50+ lifetime and do feel like overall, it's among if not the best due to its superior hard product.
We're not making this up! But then again, we're certainly not prominent. So I'm just curious who are the prominent sources who "overrate" CX?
#42
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Who is it overrated by, besides the few of us in this forum?
I don't fly nearly as much as the fellow on here who has done 40 F sectors this year, but I've done perhaps 10x this year on CX and maybe 50+ lifetime and do feel like overall, it's among if not the best due to its superior hard product.
We're not making this up! But then again, we're certainly not prominent. So I'm just curious who are the prominent sources who "overrate" CX?
I don't fly nearly as much as the fellow on here who has done 40 F sectors this year, but I've done perhaps 10x this year on CX and maybe 50+ lifetime and do feel like overall, it's among if not the best due to its superior hard product.
We're not making this up! But then again, we're certainly not prominent. So I'm just curious who are the prominent sources who "overrate" CX?
#43
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: SZX/HKG/BWI
Programs: UA 1K 1.1MM, CX Diam 1.0MM, Bonvoy LT Titanium, Hertz PC, MGM Pearl
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#45
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I was never denied an extra pack of ketchup in McD either. But Tesla Motors denied to unlock for Insane mode. same car but they denied to unlock Insane mode. McD must be a better company.




