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Old Oct 29, 2013, 4:27 am
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Is it possible to buy a (cheap) upgrade on Cathay Pacific upon check-in?

The short answer is no.

Cathay, as a general rule, does not allow you to purchase last minute upgrades if there are empty seats in Y+, J or F. The only way to upgrade a ticket is to pay the fare difference between your current ticket, and an available fare class in the higher cabins. Note that if your current ticket has restrictions (cancellation fees, non-refundable) these still apply.

There are been stories of people who have been offered cheap upgrades by Cathay, but this is more an exception than a common occurrence.


If I upgrade my ticket using asia miles, do I still earn miles?

Yes, you will earn miles for the original fare class that you booked, not the upgraded cabin.

How do I get a free upgrade / operational upgrade (op-up)?
Cathay Pacific does not upgrade passengers just because there are empty seats in higher classes. Upgrades will only occur where there is overbooking in lower classes.

The order of upgrades when required is believed to be:
  1. VIP (Heads of State, Government Bodies, or Canto Pop/Movie stars)
  2. CX Diamond Plus
  3. CX Diamond Invitation, Diamond
  4. CX Gold
  5. CX management staff on travel duty
  6. oneworld Emerald
  7. CX staff on duty nominees , other airline staff nominees, CX staff on personal travel
  8. oneworld Sapphire
  9. CX Silver
  10. oneworld Ruby
  11. CX Green
  12. Asia Miles
  13. Non status
In the event of a tiebreak being needed, generally those with lower "Boarding Numbers" will take precedence (lower BN takes priority). The earlier you check in, the lower your BN. Asking for an upgrade at check-in will not work, so don't. This is definitely one case of where "if you don't ask, you don't get", does NOT apply. The amount you paid for your ticket or the fare class of your ticket does not appear to affect your upgrade chances.


I am travelling on an award ticket. Will I still be considered for a free upgrade?

Yes - there are many stories of passengers on award tickets, or who upgraded a class using miles, getting (additional) upgrades.



What happens if the aircraft has 4 or 3 cabins, but is only selling Business and Economy seats?

It is likely if you have Marco Polo status, and to a lesser extent oneworld status, you may be able to sit in either First Class seats (if booked in J) or Premium Economy (if booked in Y) with service of the original cabin. There doesn't appear to be consistency yet as to how these semi-upgrades are allocated. Some people have been able to choose seats in the higher cabin during online check-in, or some will get them on request at check-in. However, there is no entitlement to these seats.


Will I get an upgrade on my Birthday, or for my membership anniversary, or for reaching xx number of lifetime club miles?

Please see this link for members' experience with these kinds of upgrades: Marco Polo Anniversary Upgrades


I want to use Asia Miles to upgrade a BA flight. How do I do this?

As of 22 June 2018, it is no longer possible to upgrade BA flights with Asia Miles.


How do I upgrade a CX flight using miles?

If you already have issued your original ticket:
  1. Try upgrading using Manage My Booking on the website (not always successful)
  2. If self-service doesn't work, try calling Marco Polo hotline to check availability
  3. If there is availability, you will need to issue the upgrade immediately to secure it. They may give you a few days grace before isssuing the upgrade, but this is now rarely given.
  4. In a few days, or longer if they are busy, your miles will be deducted, and you will be emailed a new e-ticket with the upgrade class details on it, and your online booking for your original booking class will disappear.

If you have not made any booking yet, and you want to check availability:
  1. Call Marco Polo club to check for availability on the flights/dates you want, or check for normal redemption availability on the website.
  2. Book a revenue ticket in the class of service for which you will be paying. Do NOT do this via the website -- call a CX telephone sales number/travel agent.
  3. Put the booking on hold.
  4. Call the Marco Polo/Asia Miles Service Center. Have them book the upgrade and give you a deadline to have the ticket issued. (It's usually about 72 hours).
  5. Have telephone sales/travel agent issue your revenue ticket.
  6. Call Marco Polo/Asia Miles back. Give them the revenue ticket number against the PNR and ask them to issue your upgrade.
  7. In about two or three days, you'll get a new ticket with the upgrade showing.

If you don't receive a new e-ticket before departure, call up Marco Polo club to double check if the upgrade has been issued.
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Old Jun 30, 2024 | 11:50 pm
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Originally Posted by dmatthew
Data point:

Flew YVR to HKG last June 18 CX819 and was able to upgrade at the counter from Y to PEY for 27,500 AsiaMiles.
But what was the underlying fare class?
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Old Jul 1, 2024 | 12:57 am
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Originally Posted by dmatthew
Data point:

Flew YVR to HKG last June 18 CX819 and was able to upgrade at the counter from Y to PEY for 27,500 AsiaMiles.
Originally Posted by JordanWalker
But what was the underlying fare class?
27500AM is the price of a Y to PEY upgrade as published for YVR HKG or any other West Coast origin; provided that you hold an upgradable ticket.
Canada to HKG PEY Cabin is running 85-95% full so they will gladly take your AM to have one more seat occupied by revenue (AM).
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Old Jul 1, 2024 | 2:15 am
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Originally Posted by yorkboy24
Im SQ Gold and am switching to CX. You never get upgraded on SQ, not even on your birthday. Its a very stingy airline. Im sure CX is still better with upgrades and at least you dont get put in a Gold lounge instead of the business one in SIN! With CX you can use the business lounges when not in J.
your rational is somewhat misplaced. you paid Y so you fly Y. you dont expect to be op upped to J.

if you choose CX over SQ your choice. But if you do so hoping for upgrade you would be disappointed
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Old Jul 1, 2024 | 2:40 am
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Originally Posted by tentseller
27500AM is the price of a Y to PEY upgrade as published for YVR HKG or any other West Coast origin; provided that you hold an upgradable ticket.
Canada to HKG PEY Cabin is running 85-95% full so they will gladly take your AM to have one more seat occupied by revenue (AM).
Hence the question / clarification.

If OP was already booked into an eligble fare class in first place - then you might as well have pay that 27.5k AM well ahead of time. And not have to risk being stuck in a middle PEY seat last minute.

But if OP was in a deeply discounted Y fare class or Light fare, and he/she only had to pay 27.5k AM at check-in, then that's an interesting DP for the community.
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Old Jul 1, 2024 | 3:24 am
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Originally Posted by JordanWalker
Hence the question / clarification.

If OP was already booked into an eligble fare class in first place - then you might as well have pay that 27.5k AM well ahead of time. And not have to risk being stuck in a middle PEY seat last minute.

But if OP was in a deeply discounted Y fare class or Light fare, and he/she only had to pay 27.5k AM at check-in, then that's an interesting DP for the community.
Sorry I wasn't initially clear on ticket type. I had Economy Essential so it was upgradeable using Asiamiles. I was put on waitlist for an upgrade for 4 months and whenever I called, the CX Agent said that no redemption slots were available. I was pleasantly surprised upon check-in that I could use Asiamiles to upgrade the ticket.

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Old Jul 4, 2024 | 6:01 am
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Originally Posted by fakecd
your rational is somewhat misplaced. you paid Y so you fly Y. you dont expect to be op upped to J.

if you choose CX over SQ your choice. But if you do so hoping for upgrade you would be disappointed
I usually fly J on SQ but the few times in Y, nothing. Your point is misplaced - whats the purpose of being loyal to an airline then if you never get upgraded?
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Old Jul 23, 2024 | 3:28 pm
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Do CX allow penalty free 'upsell' or 'upgrade'? I have redemption T (PEY) but now U (Biz) has opened up. I'm happy to burn more points if I don't need to pay US$120 cancel/reissue fee, so in these instances do CX upon asking agents waive penalty for upsell? Similarly, what if this was revenue ticket? I seem to feel there was a policy about waiver of change fee in case of upsell but wasn't sure if this was CX or SQ or my own wishful thinking.

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Old Jul 23, 2024 | 3:55 pm
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Originally Posted by fakecd
Do CX allow penalty free 'upsell' or 'upgrade'? I have redemption T (PEY) but now U (Biz) has opened up. I'm happy to burn more points if I don't need to pay US$120 cancel/reissue fee, so in these instances do CX upon asking agents waive penalty for upsell? Similarly, what if this was revenue ticket? I seem to feel there was a policy about waiver of change fee in case of upsell but wasn't sure if this was CX or SQ or my own wishful thinking.
For upselling revenue tickets, I normally get the fee waived if its for same flight. If you are doing it on the phone, the agent will put you on hold to get approval.
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Old Jul 31, 2024 | 12:25 pm
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Flying CX once again after a 7 year hiatus (PEY). Can someone kindly help with the loads for these flights - didn't exactly get my pick of seats unfortunately

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Old Aug 5, 2024 | 10:57 pm
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If I can see J redemption seats available, does it mean I can definitely book PE and get an immediate upgrade award?

Also, if I receive an upgrade, can I still make changes to other sectors on the booking without losing my upgraded seat?
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Old Aug 6, 2024 | 12:18 am
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Originally Posted by RealtimeY
If I can see J redemption seats available, does it mean I can definitely book PE and get an immediate upgrade award?

Also, if I receive an upgrade, can I still make changes to other sectors on the booking without losing my upgraded seat?
For first part of your question, the answer should theoretically be yes. Upgrade and outright redemption falls into the same fare bucket (U class for business). To be safe, give CX a call to find out. They can check upgrade availability on the spot and will most likely tell you "we recommend you buy your PEY ticket asap to secure the upgrade while space lasts".

As for the second class, others would know more but I don't see why you can't make changes to other sectors of the itinerary.
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Old Aug 6, 2024 | 12:21 am
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Originally Posted by RealtimeY
If I can see J redemption seats available, does it mean I can definitely book PE and get an immediate upgrade award?

Also, if I receive an upgrade, can I still make changes to other sectors on the booking without losing my upgraded seat?
For part 1: in theory, yes. You can even utilise the 24 hr free cancellation if it doesnt work out in your favour. However, unless your PE ticket is dead cheap or you dont have enough miles, it is not economical.

For part 2: which flights are you taking?
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Old Aug 6, 2024 | 12:30 am
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Originally Posted by RealtimeY
Also, if I receive an upgrade, can I still make changes to other sectors on the booking without losing my upgraded seat?
Yeah, for sure,
but their website might recognize it as a 'complex' booking so you might need to call their CS center to change it
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Old Aug 6, 2024 | 7:13 pm
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Thanks all. I've had a look with fresh eyes at the cost of the PE ticket + upgrade and come to the conclusion that it is indeed less economical than a full redemption, but in the equation also is the benefit of having a flex ticket that falls back to PE if there are no more J award seats on a date I want to change to. Fun games...
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Old Aug 12, 2024 | 4:47 pm
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What are the odds of getting op-up'd from PY to J as an SL holding a fare class R rev ticket on HKG-YYZ sector, assuming PY cabin is full?

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