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Old Oct 29, 2013, 4:27 am
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Is it possible to buy a (cheap) upgrade on Cathay Pacific upon check-in?

The short answer is no.

Cathay, as a general rule, does not allow you to purchase last minute upgrades if there are empty seats in Y+, J or F. The only way to upgrade a ticket is to pay the fare difference between your current ticket, and an available fare class in the higher cabins. Note that if your current ticket has restrictions (cancellation fees, non-refundable) these still apply.

There are been stories of people who have been offered cheap upgrades by Cathay, but this is more an exception than a common occurrence.


If I upgrade my ticket using asia miles, do I still earn miles?

Yes, you will earn miles for the original fare class that you booked, not the upgraded cabin.

How do I get a free upgrade / operational upgrade (op-up)?
Cathay Pacific does not upgrade passengers just because there are empty seats in higher classes. Upgrades will only occur where there is overbooking in lower classes.

The order of upgrades when required is believed to be:
  1. VIP (Heads of State, Government Bodies, or Canto Pop/Movie stars)
  2. CX Diamond Plus
  3. CX Diamond Invitation, Diamond
  4. CX Gold
  5. CX management staff on travel duty
  6. oneworld Emerald
  7. CX staff on duty nominees , other airline staff nominees, CX staff on personal travel
  8. oneworld Sapphire
  9. CX Silver
  10. oneworld Ruby
  11. CX Green
  12. Asia Miles
  13. Non status
In the event of a tiebreak being needed, generally those with lower "Boarding Numbers" will take precedence (lower BN takes priority). The earlier you check in, the lower your BN. Asking for an upgrade at check-in will not work, so don't. This is definitely one case of where "if you don't ask, you don't get", does NOT apply. The amount you paid for your ticket or the fare class of your ticket does not appear to affect your upgrade chances.


I am travelling on an award ticket. Will I still be considered for a free upgrade?

Yes - there are many stories of passengers on award tickets, or who upgraded a class using miles, getting (additional) upgrades.



What happens if the aircraft has 4 or 3 cabins, but is only selling Business and Economy seats?

It is likely if you have Marco Polo status, and to a lesser extent oneworld status, you may be able to sit in either First Class seats (if booked in J) or Premium Economy (if booked in Y) with service of the original cabin. There doesn't appear to be consistency yet as to how these semi-upgrades are allocated. Some people have been able to choose seats in the higher cabin during online check-in, or some will get them on request at check-in. However, there is no entitlement to these seats.


Will I get an upgrade on my Birthday, or for my membership anniversary, or for reaching xx number of lifetime club miles?

Please see this link for members' experience with these kinds of upgrades: Marco Polo Anniversary Upgrades


I want to use Asia Miles to upgrade a BA flight. How do I do this?

As of 22 June 2018, it is no longer possible to upgrade BA flights with Asia Miles.


How do I upgrade a CX flight using miles?

If you already have issued your original ticket:
  1. Try upgrading using Manage My Booking on the website (not always successful)
  2. If self-service doesn't work, try calling Marco Polo hotline to check availability
  3. If there is availability, you will need to issue the upgrade immediately to secure it. They may give you a few days grace before isssuing the upgrade, but this is now rarely given.
  4. In a few days, or longer if they are busy, your miles will be deducted, and you will be emailed a new e-ticket with the upgrade class details on it, and your online booking for your original booking class will disappear.

If you have not made any booking yet, and you want to check availability:
  1. Call Marco Polo club to check for availability on the flights/dates you want, or check for normal redemption availability on the website.
  2. Book a revenue ticket in the class of service for which you will be paying. Do NOT do this via the website -- call a CX telephone sales number/travel agent.
  3. Put the booking on hold.
  4. Call the Marco Polo/Asia Miles Service Center. Have them book the upgrade and give you a deadline to have the ticket issued. (It's usually about 72 hours).
  5. Have telephone sales/travel agent issue your revenue ticket.
  6. Call Marco Polo/Asia Miles back. Give them the revenue ticket number against the PNR and ask them to issue your upgrade.
  7. In about two or three days, you'll get a new ticket with the upgrade showing.

If you don't receive a new e-ticket before departure, call up Marco Polo club to double check if the upgrade has been issued.
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Old Aug 22, 2024 | 10:24 pm
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Originally Posted by JD1905
Is it possible to Upgrade using Avios?

Looking to book HKG-HKT return. Ł250 in Economy and Ł1000 in J so would prefer to try and use Avios.

My assumption is that any availability would just show using the standard Avios search on the BA Website?

If this is not an option - what would the next best method to be rather than paying the full cash fare (Bid?)
Try outright J redemption.
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Old Aug 23, 2024 | 12:03 am
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Originally Posted by mclachlan4321
I’ve a return flight LHR-HKG in J in 6 weeks. I enquired as to the cost to upgrade 1 leg to F, and was given a price of Ł5033 GBP - 51,200 HKD….
Can’t be worse than this....



The full fare F price for HKG-LHR is often absurd. You'll be much better off using Asia Miles to upgrade, it will be 75000 though.
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Old Aug 23, 2024 | 2:40 am
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Originally Posted by cxwaterboy
Can’t be worse than this....



The full fare F price for HKG-LHR is often absurd. You'll be much better off using Asia Miles to upgrade, it will be 75000 though.
Thanks. I'm a BA Avios hoarder so don't have access to Asia Miles.
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Old Aug 23, 2024 | 12:28 pm
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Originally Posted by JD1905
Is it possible to Upgrade using Avios?
Currently negative

FYI, OW members are currently discussing about bilateral agreements amongst themselves to use their FFP program currency to upgrade on the other's flights
(e.g. upgrade on QF using AAdvantage & vice versa)

Nothing about CX yet though so forget about it for the time being
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Old Aug 24, 2024 | 1:25 am
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Ask UPGRADE CATHAY metal from Econ to Business

Hello fellows Asiamiles,
I am newcomers, don be harsh.

If we book Award Seat/ redemtion seat , can we Upgarde again to Business cabin with Miles?
Some airline do not alow upgarde using Miles for Award seat.
Thanks In Advance for the Expert Asiamiles answer here
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Old Aug 24, 2024 | 2:15 am
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Originally Posted by HannsenBos3
Ask UPGRADE CATHAY metal from Econ to Business

Hello fellows Asiamiles,
I am newcomers, don be harsh.

If we book Award Seat/ redemtion seat , can we Upgarde again to Business cabin with Miles?
Some airline do not alow upgarde using Miles for Award seat.
Thanks In Advance for the Expert Asiamiles answer here
No, sorry.
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Old Aug 24, 2024 | 9:06 am
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Originally Posted by HannsenBos3

If we book Award Seat/ redemtion seat , can we Upgarde again to Business cabin with Miles?
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/36438385-post4.html
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Old Sep 21, 2024 | 10:07 pm
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What is the likelihood of getting upgraded to J (from PE) on Christmas day HKG --> AMS? According to flightseats.io, 9+ J available. Thanks.
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Old Sep 21, 2024 | 10:13 pm
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Originally Posted by mach9103
What is the likelihood of getting upgraded to J (from PE) on Christmas day HKG --> AMS? According to flightseats.io, 9+ J available. Thanks.
Look for W=0
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Old Sep 21, 2024 | 10:59 pm
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Originally Posted by percysmith
Look for W=0
W also shows as 9+. Flights with lower W availability would have better chances to have upgrade eligibility?

Also, flightseats.io is a bit slow, do you have a recommendation for a better tool? Don't mind to pay. Thanks!
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Old Sep 21, 2024 | 11:54 pm
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Expert Flyer is a great website to check availability and seat maps.

You need W/Y to be oversold to have a chance of op-ups. It's still too early to determine the load for December.
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Hi, not a regular CX flyer (though I wish I was!), so hoping someone can clarify:

Am booked on an E class fare in Premium from HKG-MEL in Jan. EF is showing Premium cabin full, but J9.

As I understand it CX don't offer POUG or AUP, so the only chance of getting into J (apart from the slim chance of an OPUP) is to call up before the day of departure and pay the fare difference?

I'm OWE (BA Gold), and the flight was booked via AMEX Travel.

Thanks
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Old Nov 29, 2024 | 9:30 am
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Originally Posted by the-doctor
Hi, not a regular CX flyer (though I wish I was!), so hoping someone can clarify:

Am booked on an E class fare in Premium from HKG-MEL in Jan. EF is showing Premium cabin full, but J9.

As I understand it CX don't offer POUG or AUP, so the only chance of getting into J (apart from the slim chance of an OPUP) is to call up before the day of departure and pay the fare difference?

I'm OWE (BA Gold), and the flight was booked via AMEX Travel.

Thanks
What are the acronyms POUG and AUP?

You can't use Asia Miles to upgrade as you correctly surmise, as E is unfortunately not eligible for mileage upgrade (only W and R). You cannot use any other airline currency to upgrade, if that's the quasi question imbedded in those acronyms I don't know. ditto that CX also does not upgrade and fill up J class just for the sake of it, like Im familiar with US airlines doing (jamming J class full always no matter what).

Basically you need to pay for J. Or refund your ticket and maybe look for an Asia Miles ticket outright. The flight doesn't sound too full yet in J so maybe award inventory is available?
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Old Nov 29, 2024 | 9:47 am
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Originally Posted by the-doctor
Im OWE (BA Gold)
You're right, this is CX not BA and they don't do POUGs here

thinking about it in a different way, by being BA Gold what have you contributed to CX which should compel them to upgrade you complementarily?
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Old Nov 29, 2024 | 9:50 am
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Originally Posted by QRC3288
What are the acronyms POUG and AUP?

You can't use Asia Miles to upgrade as you correctly surmise, as E is unfortunately not eligible for mileage upgrade (only W and R). You cannot use any other airline currency to upgrade, if that's the quasi question imbedded in those acronyms I don't know. ditto that CX also does not upgrade and fill up J class just for the sake of it, like Im familiar with US airlines doing (jamming J class full always no matter what).

Basically you need to pay for J. Or refund your ticket and maybe look for an Asia Miles ticket outright. The flight doesn't sound too full yet in J so maybe award inventory is available?
Apologies. Acronyms used in the BA forum which I wrongly assumed were universal....POUG (Proactive Upgrade) - Upgrade offers via the app/website, and AUP - (Airport Upgrade) Upgrading for cash at check in.

All my miles are with BA, so I was thinking more a cash upgrade - whether CX are in the habit of offering cash upgrades to J to free up premium economy seats...which is fairly standard on BA at least, as it's often over-sold.
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