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Old Oct 29, 2013, 4:27 am
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Is it possible to buy a (cheap) upgrade on Cathay Pacific upon check-in?

The short answer is no.

Cathay, as a general rule, does not allow you to purchase last minute upgrades if there are empty seats in Y+, J or F. The only way to upgrade a ticket is to pay the fare difference between your current ticket, and an available fare class in the higher cabins. Note that if your current ticket has restrictions (cancellation fees, non-refundable) these still apply.

There are been stories of people who have been offered cheap upgrades by Cathay, but this is more an exception than a common occurrence.


If I upgrade my ticket using asia miles, do I still earn miles?

Yes, you will earn miles for the original fare class that you booked, not the upgraded cabin.

How do I get a free upgrade / operational upgrade (op-up)?
Cathay Pacific does not upgrade passengers just because there are empty seats in higher classes. Upgrades will only occur where there is overbooking in lower classes.

The order of upgrades when required is believed to be:
  1. VIP (Heads of State, Government Bodies, or Canto Pop/Movie stars)
  2. CX Diamond Plus
  3. CX Diamond Invitation, Diamond
  4. CX Gold
  5. CX management staff on travel duty
  6. oneworld Emerald
  7. CX staff on duty nominees , other airline staff nominees, CX staff on personal travel
  8. oneworld Sapphire
  9. CX Silver
  10. oneworld Ruby
  11. CX Green
  12. Asia Miles
  13. Non status
In the event of a tiebreak being needed, generally those with lower "Boarding Numbers" will take precedence (lower BN takes priority). The earlier you check in, the lower your BN. Asking for an upgrade at check-in will not work, so don't. This is definitely one case of where "if you don't ask, you don't get", does NOT apply. The amount you paid for your ticket or the fare class of your ticket does not appear to affect your upgrade chances.


I am travelling on an award ticket. Will I still be considered for a free upgrade?

Yes - there are many stories of passengers on award tickets, or who upgraded a class using miles, getting (additional) upgrades.



What happens if the aircraft has 4 or 3 cabins, but is only selling Business and Economy seats?

It is likely if you have Marco Polo status, and to a lesser extent oneworld status, you may be able to sit in either First Class seats (if booked in J) or Premium Economy (if booked in Y) with service of the original cabin. There doesn't appear to be consistency yet as to how these semi-upgrades are allocated. Some people have been able to choose seats in the higher cabin during online check-in, or some will get them on request at check-in. However, there is no entitlement to these seats.


Will I get an upgrade on my Birthday, or for my membership anniversary, or for reaching xx number of lifetime club miles?

Please see this link for members' experience with these kinds of upgrades: Marco Polo Anniversary Upgrades


I want to use Asia Miles to upgrade a BA flight. How do I do this?

As of 22 June 2018, it is no longer possible to upgrade BA flights with Asia Miles.


How do I upgrade a CX flight using miles?

If you already have issued your original ticket:
  1. Try upgrading using Manage My Booking on the website (not always successful)
  2. If self-service doesn't work, try calling Marco Polo hotline to check availability
  3. If there is availability, you will need to issue the upgrade immediately to secure it. They may give you a few days grace before isssuing the upgrade, but this is now rarely given.
  4. In a few days, or longer if they are busy, your miles will be deducted, and you will be emailed a new e-ticket with the upgrade class details on it, and your online booking for your original booking class will disappear.

If you have not made any booking yet, and you want to check availability:
  1. Call Marco Polo club to check for availability on the flights/dates you want, or check for normal redemption availability on the website.
  2. Book a revenue ticket in the class of service for which you will be paying. Do NOT do this via the website -- call a CX telephone sales number/travel agent.
  3. Put the booking on hold.
  4. Call the Marco Polo/Asia Miles Service Center. Have them book the upgrade and give you a deadline to have the ticket issued. (It's usually about 72 hours).
  5. Have telephone sales/travel agent issue your revenue ticket.
  6. Call Marco Polo/Asia Miles back. Give them the revenue ticket number against the PNR and ask them to issue your upgrade.
  7. In about two or three days, you'll get a new ticket with the upgrade showing.

If you don't receive a new e-ticket before departure, call up Marco Polo club to double check if the upgrade has been issued.
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Old Sep 12, 2015, 3:08 am
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Originally Posted by GE90-115B
Out of pure curiosity, has anyone received a straight Y-J opup bypassing Y+ on a longhaul flight recently?
Yes, but very rare. It does happen on milestone upgrades.

Originally Posted by windchaser777
Depends on how you define recently, but flying PER-HKG on the 21 Jun I was opup-ed from Y to J, the check in attendant said it was because Y+ was full.
CX usually op-ups Y to Y+ and bumps Y+ passengers to J. However, Y can be overbooked to the extent that even Y passengers are bumped to J.
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Old Sep 12, 2015, 3:12 am
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Originally Posted by WhatTheMiguel
Hello, All! I am OW Emerald (AA EXP) and flying HKG to ORD on CX 806 in E (Premium Econ) on 20-SEP. Anyone want to help me guess my odds of an OP-UP? I have only ever gotten them on BA flights, and this is my first time on CX. It was an empty flight on my way to HKG on 04-SEP, but I am hoping the return is full.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
Loading on CX806 on 20-SEP: F4 A4 J9 C9 D9 I9 W7 R6 E3 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M8 L3 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0

There is a chance, but not high.
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Old Sep 12, 2015, 3:49 am
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Originally Posted by cxfan1960
CX usually op-ups Y to Y+ and bumps Y+ passengers to J. However, Y can be overbooked to the extent that even Y passengers are bumped to J.
Yep, I'm well aware that Y to J opup's are as rare as hen's teeth it was why I was shocked that I'd been bumped to J, especially as a lowly Silver this year. I understand it was overbooked by about 15 pax and I could tell that there were a few passengers who had never seen the inside of the business class cabin before there as well.
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Old Sep 12, 2015, 4:40 am
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Originally Posted by cxfan1960
Loading on CX806 on 20-SEP: F4 A4 J9 C9 D9 I9 W7 R6 E3 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M8 L3 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0

There is a chance, but not high.
Thanks cxfan1960! Finger crossed.
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Old Sep 12, 2015, 7:27 am
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Originally Posted by cxfan1960
Loading on CX806 on 20-SEP: F4 A4 J9 C9 D9 I9 W7 R6 E3 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M8 L3 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0

There is a chance, but not high.
Looks so empty tho. 7 PE seats or 16 Y seats have to be sold in the next 8 days before WhatTheMiguel can opup. Not to mention revenue has a habit of artificially understating capacity on weekends.
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Old Sep 12, 2015, 8:02 am
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Got a quick question from my friend, hes CX MPC Gold and OWE (AA EXP).

Is it better to check in with CX or AA? He usually fly in discounted economy (Q, N, O, S, L and V) which earn no miles in AA but either 100% to 0% on CX.

If its 0% on CX he usually use his AA and sometimes but not always get upgrades to PEY.

He is debating rather earning 100% miles on CX or trying his luck to see if he could get upgrade to PEY. In the past he uses his CX which rarely get any upgrade, but its a different route so I guess it can't be compare?

Is the priority list on the wiki still correct? If it is i might forward it to him since CX Gold is on higher priority than OWE.
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Old Sep 14, 2015, 11:35 am
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Anyone kind enough to check the loading of 806 to ORD on 18 Sep and 19 Sep? I have a secured seat on the 18th in J but am looking forward to switch to 19, but seems like it's full to the brim...wondering if the op-up gods would (ever) be in my favor on 18 at the same time. Many thanks!!
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Old Sep 14, 2015, 11:44 am
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Originally Posted by g-civc
anyone kind enough to check the loading of 806 to ord on 18 sep and 19 sep? I have a secured seat on the 18th in j but am looking forward to switch to 19, but seems like it's full to the brim...wondering if the op-up gods would (ever) be in my favor on 18 at the same time. Many thanks!!
on 10/18/15

f2 a2 j9 c9 d8 i8 w7 r7 e7 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s1 n0 q0 o0

on 10/19/15

f4 a4 j2 c1 d0 i0 w5 r4 e3 y1 b1 h0 k0 m0 l0 v0 s0 n0 q0 o0
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Old Sep 15, 2015, 11:58 am
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Originally Posted by traveler18
on 10/18/15

f2 a2 j9 c9 d8 i8 w7 r7 e7 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s1 n0 q0 o0

on 10/19/15

f4 a4 j2 c1 d0 i0 w5 r4 e3 y1 b1 h0 k0 m0 l0 v0 s0 n0 q0 o0
Thanks traveler18. I'd prolly have my heart set on the 18th then...
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Old Sep 16, 2015, 7:31 pm
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Hi,

Could someone check the loads for CX883 LAX-HKG leaving 9/26? Booked in PE (R class) and wonder what chances are as BA OWS of upgrading to J.

In the event of cash upgrade being available, anyone know what it might be?

Thanks!
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Old Sep 16, 2015, 8:01 pm
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Originally Posted by Ausscot
Hi,

Could someone check the loads for CX883 LAX-HKG leaving 9/26? Booked in PE (R class) and wonder what chances are as BA OWS of upgrading to J.

In the event of cash upgrade being available, anyone know what it might be?

Thanks!
R class is upgradable on CX Asia Miles, but I don't think it is for BA Avios. Cash upgrade is going to be expensive. It is usually the fare difference.

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For questions on upgrade using Avios, you may raise in the BA forum instead.

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Old Sep 16, 2015, 8:17 pm
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Originally Posted by cxfan1960
R class is upgradable on CX Asia Miles, but I don't think it is for BA Avios. Cash upgrade is going to be expensive. It is usually the fare difference.

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Sorry for the confusion - I know already I can't upgrade with Avios with CX. I was wondering more on loads for the chance of an op-up.
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Old Sep 16, 2015, 9:33 pm
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Originally Posted by Ausscot
Hi,

Could someone check the loads for CX883 LAX-HKG leaving 9/26? Booked in PE (R class) and wonder what chances are as BA OWS of upgrading to J.

In the event of cash upgrade being available, anyone know what it might be?

Thanks!
EF report for CX883 is: F3 A3 J9 C9 D9 I9 W9 R8 E5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9

No need for opups if this is correct, so no chance at the moment.
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Old Sep 16, 2015, 11:07 pm
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Originally Posted by windchaser777
Originally Posted by Ausscot
Hi,

Could someone check the loads for CX883 LAX-HKG leaving 9/26? Booked in PE (R class) and wonder what chances are as BA OWS of upgrading to J.

In the event of cash upgrade being available, anyone know what it might be?

Thanks!
EF report for CX883 is: F3 A3 J9 C9 D9 I9 W9 R8 E5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9

No need for opups if this is correct, so no chance at the moment.
It seems that the chance is not high. Op-ups for US-HKG are not easy to get because it only takes 20K Asia Miles (for LAX, SFO) to upgrade from PEY to J, and there are many AM members who will go for it even at the airport because of the 2-hour extra flying time west-bound.

But who knows...
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Old Sep 17, 2015, 5:04 am
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OK - thanks for the replies
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