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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 8:54 pm
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77A to Debut for SFO

Looking through the schedules, beginning Feb 1, 2010 CX870/879 will switch from the 74A to 77A. By then North America will only see one daily 74A - CX872/873. The move is in-line with what has been said in previous posts about NA routes moving to 77As.

Looks like securing F awards to/from NA will be more and more challenging as the downsizing of aircraft for these routes reduces seat capacity from 12 to 9 to 6.
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 9:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Wingfly
Looking through the schedules, beginning Feb 1, 2010 CX870/879 will switch from the 74A to 77A. By then North America will only see one daily 74A - CX872/873. The move is in-line with what has been said in previous posts about NA routes moving to 77As.

Looks like securing F awards to/from NA will be more and more challenging as the downsizing of aircraft for these routes reduces seat capacity from 12 to 9 to 6.
Bummer. I hope they keep 873 74A, I really think F is superior on the 747 vs 77A. Any idea where they're re-routing the extra 74A? If they eventually downsize CX873 to 77A as well, they'll have 1-2 extra 74As in the fleet and possibly can give more dedicated service to one or two locations (instead of always being EQV).
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 9:39 pm
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When they purchased the 77As a few years ago, the intention stated was for the 74As to instead go to Europe. I think they idea was to maximise the LHR slots. That was of course pre-GFC.
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 1:09 am
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I find the air quality on the 777s much better than other planes in CX's fleet, but do lament the greater difficulty in getting into F.
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 6:56 am
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Originally Posted by sxc
When they purchased the 77As a few years ago, the intention stated was for the 74As to instead go to Europe. I think they idea was to maximise the LHR slots. That was of course pre-GFC.
So, any idea what the current strategy is? I much prefer the 74As to the 77As.
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 7:34 am
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I think the spare 74As will eventually be deployed on the LHR route, I think on the 253/254 rotation(currently 34B)...CX plans to have all 744 service in LHR eventually (of course again pre-financial crisis that was)
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 7:42 am
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Originally Posted by geraldchan05
I think the spare 74As will eventually be deployed on the LHR route, I think on the 253/254 rotation(currently 34B)...CX plans to have all 744 service in LHR eventually (of course again pre-financial crisis that was)
However, LAX goes back to 1 74A + 1 B77A (From 2 B77A) in the summer 10 schedule - so it is just a swap to right-size the market.
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 10:29 am
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Originally Posted by pacificboot
However, LAX goes back to 1 74A + 1 B77A (From 2 B77A) in the summer 10 schedule - so it is just a swap to right-size the market.
The Summer 2010 has not been fully updated yet. CX870/879 is still showing the 74A as well for that season. By approximately January or February you will likely see the airline update schedules and aircraft deploy.
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 6:29 pm
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Uhh........I just downloaded my latest timetable for the season Nov 2009 to February 2010, both still show 744 for SFO. No change.
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 9:40 pm
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Oh please not that noisy 773. Blaaaah. Give me a 744 (or indeed a 330/340 any day). I don't know how Boeing managed to do it, but wind noise (external - through the air noise rather than fellow passengers ) in the 777 is a lot greater than even in the nose of the 744.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 4:01 pm
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My wife and I had been looking forward to 1A/K on the 744 for our upcoming SFO-HKG flight, but we are now on the 773ER.

Not a huge deal, but there really aren't equivilent seats. I guess we'll go for 1A and 2A.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 5:49 pm
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There's always the option of using CX873
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 6:39 pm
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Originally Posted by PresRDC
My wife and I had been looking forward to 1A/K on the 744 for our upcoming SFO-HKG flight, but we are now on the 773ER.

Not a huge deal, but there really aren't equivilent seats. I guess we'll go for 1A and 2A.
I've got 1A/1K with mrs. gleff coming up, but for our 3 F segments on the 777 we're doing 1D/K since the seats at least open facing each other. Is 1A/2A somehow superior for couples?

I will see a smaller cabin is nice once you're in it, bathroom luxury aside. And I do find the 777 to be a smoother ride, less prone to turbulance.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 6:46 pm
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We prefer 1A/2A, just because there is no-one else on that side of the cabin, so it feels a bit more private. Even with 1D/1K one of you is essentially going to have to exit their suite to talk to the other. With 1A/2A you can just lean over the intervening partition.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 10:40 pm
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I planned to go to HK during Chinese New Year. Just checked the aircraft types for SFO-HKG (depart Feb/9/2010). One flight CX872 uses 74A and the other CX 870 uses 773 accoring to cathaypacific.com

I was shocked to see CX uses 773 ( not 74A nor 77A) to fly 870/879
The 773s are equipped with the old model chairs for J class ( took one time 8 years ago) and the seating layout for 773 shows no F class..

What the hell! Why not 77A? The old business class chair on 773 is not good..
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