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Wingfly Nov 17, 2009 8:54 pm

77A to Debut for SFO
 
Looking through the schedules, beginning Feb 1, 2010 CX870/879 will switch from the 74A to 77A. By then North America will only see one daily 74A - CX872/873. The move is in-line with what has been said in previous posts about NA routes moving to 77As.

Looks like securing F awards to/from NA will be more and more challenging as the downsizing of aircraft for these routes reduces seat capacity from 12 to 9 to 6.

QRC3288 Nov 17, 2009 9:36 pm


Originally Posted by Wingfly (Post 12838158)
Looking through the schedules, beginning Feb 1, 2010 CX870/879 will switch from the 74A to 77A. By then North America will only see one daily 74A - CX872/873. The move is in-line with what has been said in previous posts about NA routes moving to 77As.

Looks like securing F awards to/from NA will be more and more challenging as the downsizing of aircraft for these routes reduces seat capacity from 12 to 9 to 6.

Bummer. I hope they keep 873 74A, I really think F is superior on the 747 vs 77A. Any idea where they're re-routing the extra 74A? If they eventually downsize CX873 to 77A as well, they'll have 1-2 extra 74As in the fleet and possibly can give more dedicated service to one or two locations (instead of always being EQV).

sxc Nov 17, 2009 9:39 pm

When they purchased the 77As a few years ago, the intention stated was for the 74As to instead go to Europe. I think they idea was to maximise the LHR slots. That was of course pre-GFC.

Jane's Addiction Nov 18, 2009 1:09 am

I find the air quality on the 777s much better than other planes in CX's fleet, but do lament the greater difficulty in getting into F.

Dr. HFH Nov 18, 2009 6:56 am


Originally Posted by sxc (Post 12838345)
When they purchased the 77As a few years ago, the intention stated was for the 74As to instead go to Europe. I think they idea was to maximise the LHR slots. That was of course pre-GFC.

So, any idea what the current strategy is? I much prefer the 74As to the 77As.

geraldchan05 Nov 18, 2009 7:34 am

I think the spare 74As will eventually be deployed on the LHR route, I think on the 253/254 rotation(currently 34B)...CX plans to have all 744 service in LHR eventually (of course again pre-financial crisis that was)

pacificboot Nov 18, 2009 7:42 am


Originally Posted by geraldchan05 (Post 12840150)
I think the spare 74As will eventually be deployed on the LHR route, I think on the 253/254 rotation(currently 34B)...CX plans to have all 744 service in LHR eventually (of course again pre-financial crisis that was)

However, LAX goes back to 1 74A + 1 B77A (From 2 B77A) in the summer 10 schedule - so it is just a swap to right-size the market.

Wingfly Nov 18, 2009 10:29 am


Originally Posted by pacificboot (Post 12840193)
However, LAX goes back to 1 74A + 1 B77A (From 2 B77A) in the summer 10 schedule - so it is just a swap to right-size the market.

The Summer 2010 has not been fully updated yet. CX870/879 is still showing the 74A as well for that season. By approximately January or February you will likely see the airline update schedules and aircraft deploy.

CXfanatic Nov 18, 2009 6:29 pm

Uhh........I just downloaded my latest timetable for the season Nov 2009 to February 2010, both still show 744 for SFO. No change.

og Nov 18, 2009 9:40 pm

Oh please not that noisy 773. Blaaaah. Give me a 744 (or indeed a 330/340 any day). I don't know how Boeing managed to do it, but wind noise (external - through the air noise rather than fellow passengers :rolleyes:) in the 777 is a lot greater than even in the nose of the 744.

PresRDC Nov 19, 2009 4:01 pm

My wife and I had been looking forward to 1A/K on the 744 for our upcoming SFO-HKG flight, but we are now on the 773ER.

Not a huge deal, but there really aren't equivilent seats. I guess we'll go for 1A and 2A.

CXfanatic Nov 19, 2009 5:49 pm

There's always the option of using CX873

gleff Nov 19, 2009 6:39 pm


Originally Posted by PresRDC (Post 12848979)
My wife and I had been looking forward to 1A/K on the 744 for our upcoming SFO-HKG flight, but we are now on the 773ER.

Not a huge deal, but there really aren't equivilent seats. I guess we'll go for 1A and 2A.

I've got 1A/1K with mrs. gleff coming up, but for our 3 F segments on the 777 we're doing 1D/K since the seats at least open facing each other. Is 1A/2A somehow superior for couples?

I will see a smaller cabin is nice once you're in it, bathroom luxury aside. And I do find the 777 to be a smoother ride, less prone to turbulance.

christep Nov 19, 2009 6:46 pm

We prefer 1A/2A, just because there is no-one else on that side of the cabin, so it feels a bit more private. Even with 1D/1K one of you is essentially going to have to exit their suite to talk to the other. With 1A/2A you can just lean over the intervening partition.

Royaloaks Nov 19, 2009 10:40 pm

I planned to go to HK during Chinese New Year. Just checked the aircraft types for SFO-HKG (depart Feb/9/2010). One flight CX872 uses 74A and the other CX 870 uses 773 accoring to cathaypacific.com

I was shocked to see CX uses 773 ( not 74A nor 77A) to fly 870/879
The 773s are equipped with the old model chairs for J class ( took one time 8 years ago) and the seating layout for 773 shows no F class..

What the hell! Why not 77A? The old business class chair on 773 is not good..


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