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flyhurl Apr 24, 2025 9:41 pm

There may be drop in travel both directions. US travelers may worry of the welcome they receive in Canada. Any reports on that?

Heyden Apr 25, 2025 6:03 am


Originally Posted by flyhurl (Post 37047124)
There may be drop in travel both directions. US travelers may worry of the welcome they receive in Canada. Any reports on that?

https://dailyhive.com/canada/canada-...ravel-decrease

There are initial signs.

Canada has seen a slight dip in visitors from the U.S. as tensions between the two countries heighten due to tariffs and Donald Trump’s presidency.

Statistics Canada released its report on travel between Canada and other countries in February. It found that trips to Canada by Americans decreased by 5.3 per cent compared to the same time last year, to 1.1 million visitors.
Americans are generally oblivious to the impact tariffs are having in other countries and the expanded anti-American sentiment created by their President's trade policies. They should not be surprised if they do not receive a warm welcome in Canada.

flyhurl Apr 29, 2025 10:04 am

And now we have the election results. Wonder if that will calm or excite the situation regarding traveling both directions?

Symmetre May 1, 2025 9:26 am

Since the issue wasn't with our government to begin with, I doubt it will make any difference.

YVR Cockroach May 1, 2025 10:25 pm

Numbers for February. Drop is not just visitors from Canada.


U.S. Travel Trends February 2025: Visitor Arrivals Drop, Departures Rise - Focus on Travel News


I've seen some data that says it has continued into March.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...de-war-tourism

These numbers may be affected by Easter which was at the end of March last year vs. late April this year.

The key will be what the data for this summer is.

NewbieRunner May 2, 2025 9:36 pm

According to NYT:

“Visitors haven’t stopped booking summer vacations in the United States, either, with one major exception.

Canadians, angered by U.S. tariffs and Trump administration talk of turning their country into a 51st state, really do appear to be boycotting the United States. Ticket sales for travel in summer, a crucial season for the industry, are down 21 percent compared with last year.

The decline in Canadian travelers, who make up roughly a quarter of all foreign visitors, is enough by itself to threaten tourism-oriented businesses in Florida, New York, Maine and other popular destinations.”
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...4f154231f.jpeg

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...l-decline.html



Heyden May 3, 2025 7:56 am

The interesting aspect to this is the drop in commuter fares. The two Soos are relatively isolated from other population areas. Commuter fares are generally purchased by locals going back and forth to shop, dine in local restaurants, etc. A 30% drop will be rough on Sault Michigan.

https://www.saultstar.com/news/sault...mmets-in-april


Sault bridge traffic plummets in April
Published May 03, 2025

Traffic crossing the International Bridge tumbled again in April.

One-way crossings totalled 50,937 last month. That’s down 36 per cent from 78,967 trips in April 2024.

Full-fare passenger cars fell 44 per cent to 18,516, Sault Ste. Marie Bridge Authority says. Commuter fares dipped 32 per cent to 26,392 compared to April 2024.

Bridge traffic was down 30 per cent in March.

Total crossings for the first four months of 2025 stand at 237,106. That’s down 20 per cent from 295,013 recorded from January to April 2024.

Heyden May 6, 2025 7:04 pm

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...outes?tbref=hp


WestJet is suspending nine routes between Canada and the U.S. due to lower demand.

The Canadian airline’s service from Vancouver to Austin — a new route that was originally slated to start next week — is now on hold until October. Other previously popular cross-border flights, including routes to Orlando, Los Angeles and Chicago, have been halted for various periods between June and August, spokesperson Josh Yeats told Bloomberg News.

Meanwhile, WestJet has added domestic flights within Canada as well as services to Europe “to help Canadians fly where they want to go,” Yeats said.

flyhurl May 7, 2025 10:22 am

Thank you for the updates. So I wonder Vancouver to Austin?? is it Canadians that are not visiting texas or texans not going to Vancouver.? Both? Currency could factor as well.

So where are the Canadians planning to visit? Where in Europe per Westjet?

azepine00 May 7, 2025 12:42 pm

lax-yyc and yvr i track have been 50-100 (ow) for months on ws including peak summer season and suddenly disappeared last weekend..

tentseller May 8, 2025 1:51 am


Originally Posted by flyhurl (Post 37072127)
Thank you for the updates. So I wonder Vancouver to Austin?? is it Canadians that are not visiting texas or texans not going to Vancouver.? Both? Currency could factor as well.

So where are the Canadians planning to visit? Where in Europe per Westjet?

Yes Austin.
It is the target of the Canadian brain drain.

BillMorrow May 12, 2025 5:51 am

Planning a trip to the Canadian Maritimes this summer. Am about two months out and am a bit surprised at limited hotel availability in places like Charlottetown and Sydney, PEI. Perhaps because the Canadians are staying home? (Can't blame them)

Symmetre May 12, 2025 6:28 am


Originally Posted by BillMorrow (Post 37080812)
Planning a trip to the Canadian Maritimes this summer. Am about two months out and am a bit surprised at limited hotel availability in places like Charlottetown and Sydney, PEI. Perhaps because the Canadians are staying home? (Can't blame them)

There isn't a ton of hotel space in Charlottetown to begin with, so what there is fills up fast. If you want to PM me some dates I may be able to give you some ideas ... can't speak for Sydney tho.

BillMorrow May 13, 2025 5:33 am

I am currently booked at the Delta Prince Edward primarily because it seems to be right in the middle of 'everything'. Thought it a bit pricey, considering one of the B&B's. The Great George is booked for my dates.

EmailKid May 14, 2025 4:43 pm

Travel down from Victoria
 

Originally Posted by Times Colonist

Clipper Navigation is preparing to cut in half the number of sailings it will operate in the height of summer, lay off 20 staff at its Seattle office and reduce shifts for its Victoria staff as it attempts to staunch the financial bleeding in the wake of the ongoing trade dispute between Canada and the U.S.
......
Collins said Canadian travel on the ferry is down 35% while U.S. travel is down 7% to 10% compared with last year.

“When we’re forecasting to be 35% off during peak season, it’s pretty tough,” Collins said.

To deal with it Clipper, which normally runs two round-trips seven days a week in the summer, will cut back to one round-trip daily, and in the shoulder seasons of spring and fall the schedule will be trimmed to one round-trip five days a week.
...

https://www.timescolonist.com/local-...eid=11ad98d5d2

Travel on Coho Ferry from Victoria to Port Angeles WA is also way down. Clipper is pax only, Coho carries vehicles in addition to pax.

Oh, and IIRC Clipper used to run at least three sailing a day in the height of summer pre Covid.


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