No priority line for YVR transborder security
Mar 19, 2017 | 8:01 pm
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"YVRs Airport Improvement Fee remains one of the lowest of the major airports in Canada and continues to provide one of the lowest fees for travel within BC and the Yukon."
Feel any better?
Mar 19, 2017 | 9:23 pm
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Totally agree, Nexus works pretty much everywhere and almost guarantees you TSA Pre. In YYZ, the Nexus and Visa Privilege lines dump you into the same place. At my base (YVR), they even have effectively the same protocol as TSA-P most of the time.
Having said that the Nexus lane is not always open first thing in the morning here or during the mid day doldrums. And there are shocking number of families with kids using the Nexus lane now. That's okay, but they take forever to actually clear the Immigration agents. Whine, whine, snivel, snivel.
Having said that the Nexus lane is not always open first thing in the morning here or during the mid day doldrums. And there are shocking number of families with kids using the Nexus lane now. That's okay, but they take forever to actually clear the Immigration agents. Whine, whine, snivel, snivel.
It gets better - most of the time at least two of those terminals are non-functional. There's about the same number of Nexus machines in YVR arrivals as well, with about the same reliability. I figure they could almost double the number of machines on both sides but that would require spending money.
Either that or it's a union shop and they only want to process a certain number of PAX per hour.
Either that or it's a union shop and they only want to process a certain number of PAX per hour.
Mar 19, 2017 | 9:33 pm
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Mar 20, 2017 | 1:21 am
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You know those kiosks anyone with a Canadian or US passport can use next to the Nexus machines that reduce crowding and expedite processing? Those were engineered with AIF funds. Now YVR gets to license those across the world.
YVR management have their fingers on a lot of things the average FF won't know about. Providing seed funding to new airports in developing countries (to then take a royalty), designing new tech (new machines are coming to CBSA soon), etc
Mar 20, 2017 | 8:36 am
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You know those kiosks anyone with a Canadian or US passport can use next to the Nexus machines that reduce crowding and expedite processing? Those were engineered with AIF funds. Now YVR gets to license those across the world.
YVR management have their fingers on a lot of things the average FF won't know about. Providing seed funding to new airports in developing countries (to then take a royalty), designing new tech (new machines are coming to CBSA soon), etc
YVR management have their fingers on a lot of things the average FF won't know about. Providing seed funding to new airports in developing countries (to then take a royalty), designing new tech (new machines are coming to CBSA soon), etc
Mar 20, 2017 | 8:45 am
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Originally Posted by yyznomad
I've always maintained that US entry (security and control) at YVR sucks woolly mammoth dung.
Originally Posted by N1120A
CBP at YVR are basically the worst in Canada. They force even people with no checked bags to talk to someone, and they ask the same harassing garbage they ask people at regular booths.
Nexus membership has never pretended to exclude travellers from a CBP interview, although I've passed through several times with just a 'good morning....have a good day' exchange with the CBP official. If one finds simple questions such as "what's the purpose of your trip today?" as 'harassing garbage', it might be best to reevaluate the need to travel.
Mar 20, 2017 | 9:55 am
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Yes, I participated in the gong show at YVR Canada customs this morning. Nexus machines not working so get in the regular line. Then the Nexus machines came on line but the cattle herders did not want anyone to go there because that would be unfair for the Nexus members in the regular line.
My my wife just lifted the rope and went over there. We started a trend because everyone followed us.
Then there was the joy of the domestic transfer security area. Process 1 person every 2 minutes. They finally opened a second lane.
How much does one pay for the airport improvement fee in YVR? And more importantly, other than really big pieces of local art, what are they doing with it? Obviously it's not on the security screening.
My my wife just lifted the rope and went over there. We started a trend because everyone followed us.
Then there was the joy of the domestic transfer security area. Process 1 person every 2 minutes. They finally opened a second lane.
How much does one pay for the airport improvement fee in YVR? And more importantly, other than really big pieces of local art, what are they doing with it? Obviously it's not on the security screening.
Mar 20, 2017 | 9:58 am
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You guys must really have bad luck or present a flag to the CBP folks who feel a need to enter into a discussion with you. I pass through US pre-clearance at YVR 2-3x per month and experience none of the hyperbolic treatment you describe. A long transit time for me is 5 minutes. I get the sense from many that if a Nexus member can't transit immigration within a single minute, the system is a failure. And that it's the airport's fault. If other people (some with kids - gasp!) deign to use the same queues in the country's 2nd busiest airport, it deteriorates, for some, into an abject horrorshow.
Nexus membership has never pretended to exclude travellers from a CBP interview, although I've passed through several times with just a 'good morning....have a good day' exchange with the CBP official. If one finds simple questions such as "what's the purpose of your trip today?" as 'harassing garbage', it might be best to reevaluate the need to travel.
Nexus membership has never pretended to exclude travellers from a CBP interview, although I've passed through several times with just a 'good morning....have a good day' exchange with the CBP official. If one finds simple questions such as "what's the purpose of your trip today?" as 'harassing garbage', it might be best to reevaluate the need to travel.
Mar 20, 2017 | 11:54 am
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You guys must really have bad luck or present a flag to the CBP folks who feel a need to enter into a discussion with you. I pass through US pre-clearance at YVR 2-3x per month and experience none of the hyperbolic treatment you describe. A long transit time for me is 5 minutes. I get the sense from many that if a Nexus member can't transit immigration within a single minute, the system is a failure. And that it's the airport's fault. If other people (some with kids - gasp!) deign to use the same queues in the country's 2nd busiest airport, it deteriorates, for some, into an abject horrorshow.
Nexus membership has never pretended to exclude travellers from a CBP interview, although I've passed through several times with just a 'good morning....have a good day' exchange with the CBP official. If one finds simple questions such as "what's the purpose of your trip today?" as 'harassing garbage', it might be best to reevaluate the need to travel.
Nexus membership has never pretended to exclude travellers from a CBP interview, although I've passed through several times with just a 'good morning....have a good day' exchange with the CBP official. If one finds simple questions such as "what's the purpose of your trip today?" as 'harassing garbage', it might be best to reevaluate the need to travel.
And to the topic on hand, I believe YVR is poor for security lines. I almost feel that if there are not enough people in line they slow down the process and send more people for pat down or thru the scanning machine. I have also seen new trainees in the Nexus line, regular pax being sent to the Nexus line, and changing shift for all screeners at one time causing a shutdown and delay.
Mar 20, 2017 | 12:07 pm
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You know those kiosks anyone with a Canadian or US passport can use next to the Nexus machines that reduce crowding and expedite processing? Those were engineered with AIF funds. Now YVR gets to license those across the world.
YVR management have their fingers on a lot of things the average FF won't know about. Providing seed funding to new airports in developing countries (to then take a royalty), designing new tech (new machines are coming to CBSA soon), etc
YVR management have their fingers on a lot of things the average FF won't know about. Providing seed funding to new airports in developing countries (to then take a royalty), designing new tech (new machines are coming to CBSA soon), etc
I recall it was posted somewhere on this forum. For those interested.....
(bolding mine)
Quote:
"Our BORDERXPRESS Automated Passport Control (APC) kiosks allow travelers arriving into the United States to quickly and securely complete US Customs and Border Protection (CBP) formalities. YVR's own Innovative Travel Solutions developed the technology in 2009 and this technology is now available at 32 airport and seaport locations across North America and the Caribbean."
http://www.yvr.ca/en/business/self-s...ssport-control
"Vancouver Airport: selling the BorderXpress system" Feb 2016
http://www.airport-technology.com/fe...ystem-4800855/
Mar 20, 2017 | 12:18 pm
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As this discussion has become far more of a YVR conversation than anything related to Air Canada it's been relocated to the Canada forum.
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Mar 20, 2017 | 12:47 pm
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Hardly a lecture. If one makes a blanket statement comparing individual anecdotal experience to the faeces of an extinct creature, one can reasonably expect a rebuttal based in moderation.
Sorry YVR doesn't work for you. For 22.3 million others this past year, it seemed to operate just fine.
Would these issues not be related to CATSA and the US CBP office, and independent of YVR itself? I think some of us may be confused as to the responsibility of various agencies within the airport environment.
Sorry YVR doesn't work for you. For 22.3 million others this past year, it seemed to operate just fine.
Originally Posted by vernonc
And to the topic on hand, I believe YVR is poor for security lines. I almost feel that if there are not enough people in line they slow down the process and send more people for pat down or thru the scanning machine. I have also seen new trainees in the Nexus line, regular pax being sent to the Nexus line, and changing shift for all screeners at one time causing a shutdown and delay.
Mar 20, 2017 | 1:15 pm
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YYZ is my home airport and I have only spoken to a CBP officer twice in 12 months, once when the machines were down and once when I had checked bags. So yes while CBP reserves the right to interview/screen you and your bags, the process is designed to speed you thru because you are low risk.
And to the topic on hand, I believe YVR is poor for security lines. I almost feel that if there are not enough people in line they slow down the process and send more people for pat down or thru the scanning machine. I have also seen new trainees in the Nexus line, regular pax being sent to the Nexus line, and changing shift for all screeners at one time causing a shutdown and delay.
And to the topic on hand, I believe YVR is poor for security lines. I almost feel that if there are not enough people in line they slow down the process and send more people for pat down or thru the scanning machine. I have also seen new trainees in the Nexus line, regular pax being sent to the Nexus line, and changing shift for all screeners at one time causing a shutdown and delay.