Our first F is spoiled
Jul 27, 2009, 1:51 pm
#46
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Italy 90% - Rest of the World 10%
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Not going to knock AZ too much because their J product isn't the worst
Jul 27, 2009, 1:58 pm
#48
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Italy 90% - Rest of the World 10%
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Jul 27, 2009, 2:11 pm
#50
Join Date: May 2004
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Perhaps Mr H has made a point not to fly BA since 2003.
Prior to which, of course, he might have considered flying R.
ps - my ground experience back in 2002-2003 when I was flying R, was also quite pitiful. To the extent that I waited until T5 opened before I really did much flying on BA again, and my jury is still out on whether the lovely lounges can perhaps be accompanied by this mythical image of no queues clogging the FCC or going from lounge to aircraft without standing in a holding pen with 300+ people, followed perhaps (if it's your lucky day) by a bus that makes you long for the holding pen again...
Prior to which, of course, he might have considered flying R.
ps - my ground experience back in 2002-2003 when I was flying R, was also quite pitiful. To the extent that I waited until T5 opened before I really did much flying on BA again, and my jury is still out on whether the lovely lounges can perhaps be accompanied by this mythical image of no queues clogging the FCC or going from lounge to aircraft without standing in a holding pen with 300+ people, followed perhaps (if it's your lucky day) by a bus that makes you long for the holding pen again...
Jul 27, 2009, 2:33 pm
#51
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: CPT
Programs: BA BD SA
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And that, in a beautifully succinct nutshell, is the single worst aspect of First. You don't need fleets of Bentleys/Jags/Aston Martins whizzing all over the aprons - you just need to make sure that you remember that F pax hate to be treated like cattle and act accordingly. Which is Fast Track that is reliably fast, orderly priority boarding at all times, and dedicated cars/buses if you really must use a remote stand.
Jul 27, 2009, 2:44 pm
#52
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And that, in a beautifully succinct nutshell, is the single worst aspect of First. You don't need fleets of Bentleys/Jags/Aston Martins whizzing all over the aprons - you just need to make sure that you remember that F pax hate to be treated like cattle and act accordingly. Which is Fast Track that is reliably fast, orderly priority boarding at all times, and dedicated cars/buses if you really must use a remote stand.
Jul 27, 2009, 2:46 pm
#53
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: AA Lifetime PLT , BA Silver , BD RIP , HH Gold, SPG / Marriott PLT , EF Subscriber
Posts: 6,702
OP Indicates that they Used BA Miles..But BA is Not listed on their profile.
Programs: AA,AC,Delta.NWA.United,MR gold,
OP Also loves LH and their Low Mileage redemptions but M and M is not listed on OP's Profile either.
Anyhow does it really matter if you go by Car from FRA or Bus from LHR..In the end you are still treated like Cattle upon arrival at LAX- TBIT, sometimes even with the Joys of a Long Remote Bus Transfer.
People from Glass Houses [Pasadena-LAX County] should not throw stones. Fix you own International Airlines and Airports.
I still enjoy LHR Fastrack Immigration or IRIS to anything that I have to endure at LAX or indeed FRA.
Programs: AA,AC,Delta.NWA.United,MR gold,
OP Also loves LH and their Low Mileage redemptions but M and M is not listed on OP's Profile either.
Anyhow does it really matter if you go by Car from FRA or Bus from LHR..In the end you are still treated like Cattle upon arrival at LAX- TBIT, sometimes even with the Joys of a Long Remote Bus Transfer.
People from Glass Houses [Pasadena-LAX County] should not throw stones. Fix you own International Airlines and Airports.
I still enjoy LHR Fastrack Immigration or IRIS to anything that I have to endure at LAX or indeed FRA.
Jul 27, 2009, 3:21 pm
#55
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Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Morbihan, France
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Well from the hard faced sourpuss who greeted us - (to be charitable she said Bonjour. She also said Au Revoir at the end and I knew which was the more sincere) to the over-volume moussed little queen with her sun glasses stuck in his over teased bush aka hairdo we had in a stroke the Queen of Mean and the Killer Queen. Everyone appeare to be called Securite-Safety. Clearly they were related. The Capt gave a little cabaret before the entire aircraft to send British ATC up. Brought the house down. I made a mental note that that locked door was not to keep undesirables out but actually keep them in the cockpit where they can't hburt anyone. Like the insane asylums before the turn of thbe last century.
They did eventually perform a service of sorts. Ice was an extra - it had to be requested. Anyway it was all so wonderful (the cabin was spotless I must say) that I realised why all the CDGs I go on are packed. The cabin resonated behind me to the sound of ''Sheeps or Cake'' ( I am not making this up - I think that she was actually trying to say Chips. Why is it thbat some people never progress beyond a certain point in languages and seem content to stick there? Not me I'm afraid - need to move on. Ah well.
You may wonder why on Gods earth I was on there. But that is for a TFTG which has nothing to do with anything.
I am sure that Lufthansa is wonderful. I am sure that AF can be wonderful. I keep hearing this. I shall not bother again but still never mind.
They did eventually perform a service of sorts. Ice was an extra - it had to be requested. Anyway it was all so wonderful (the cabin was spotless I must say) that I realised why all the CDGs I go on are packed. The cabin resonated behind me to the sound of ''Sheeps or Cake'' ( I am not making this up - I think that she was actually trying to say Chips. Why is it thbat some people never progress beyond a certain point in languages and seem content to stick there? Not me I'm afraid - need to move on. Ah well.
You may wonder why on Gods earth I was on there. But that is for a TFTG which has nothing to do with anything.
I am sure that Lufthansa is wonderful. I am sure that AF can be wonderful. I keep hearing this. I shall not bother again but still never mind.
Jul 27, 2009, 4:07 pm
#57
Join Date: Nov 2005
Programs: BA Exec
Posts: 647
The red "Safety - Securite" badge identifies the crew that have been given aircraft-specific training; AF will roster the legal minimum number of crew that have been trained on safety equipment and procedures specific to, for example, the Boeing 777, and top these up with other crew that may not be trained on that specific aircraft; legal, and probably designed to give the AF scheduling department maximum flexibility.
Jul 27, 2009, 4:22 pm
#58
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Pasadena,Ca.,US.
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OP Indicates that they Used BA Miles..But BA is Not listed on their profile.
Programs: AA,AC,Delta.NWA.United,MR gold,
OP Also loves LH and their Low Mileage redemptions but M and M is not listed on OP's Profile either.
Anyhow does it really matter if you go by Car from FRA or Bus from LHR..In the end you are still treated like Cattle upon arrival at LAX- TBIT, sometimes even with the Joys of a Long Remote Bus Transfer.
People from Glass Houses [Pasadena-LAX County] should not throw stones. Fix you own International Airlines and Airports.
I still enjoy LHR Fastrack Immigration or IRIS to anything that I have to endure at LAX or indeed FRA.
Programs: AA,AC,Delta.NWA.United,MR gold,
OP Also loves LH and their Low Mileage redemptions but M and M is not listed on OP's Profile either.
Anyhow does it really matter if you go by Car from FRA or Bus from LHR..In the end you are still treated like Cattle upon arrival at LAX- TBIT, sometimes even with the Joys of a Long Remote Bus Transfer.
People from Glass Houses [Pasadena-LAX County] should not throw stones. Fix you own International Airlines and Airports.
I still enjoy LHR Fastrack Immigration or IRIS to anything that I have to endure at LAX or indeed FRA.
Just for giggles-i do belong to BAEC(only a blue member)as a matter of fact and these were BAEC miles being redeemed.
BTW-if you would have bothered to have read the linked trip report you would have seen I have no love for LAX.
Last edited by bigguyinpasadena; Jul 27, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Jul 27, 2009, 4:35 pm
#59
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: UK
Programs: BA GGL / AAdvantage Million Miler + Plat / TK Gold (not any more) / Hilton Diamond (via GGL)
Posts: 1,002
It is a ghastly word. It implies that the speaker has previously planed, or perhaps even enplaned, which doesn't sound like a particularly pleasant experience. I've just planed my bathroom door, and even that isn't likely to become deplaned in the near future.
I've never heard of anyone debus, decar debicycle or for that matter deseat.
I suspect the kind of people who 'deplane' also 'breakfast' and watch as their garden 'greens'.
I'm afraid I'm not the kind of person who appreciates his noun being verbed.
I've never heard of anyone debus, decar debicycle or for that matter deseat.
I suspect the kind of people who 'deplane' also 'breakfast' and watch as their garden 'greens'.
I'm afraid I'm not the kind of person who appreciates his noun being verbed.