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[OT]In India they invented the word 'prepone'. It means to do something earlier than intended. I argued several times this can never be or one should also be able to 'pone' something.... Ghastly.[/OT]
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It is a ghastly word. It implies that the speaker has previously planed, or perhaps even enplaned, which doesn't sound like a particularly pleasant experience. I've just planed my bathroom door, and even that isn't likely to become deplaned in the near future.
I've never heard of anyone debus, decar debicycle or for that matter deseat.
I suspect the kind of people who 'deplane' also 'breakfast' and watch as their garden 'greens'.
I'm afraid I'm not the kind of person who appreciates his noun being verbed.
I've never heard of anyone debus, decar debicycle or for that matter deseat.
I suspect the kind of people who 'deplane' also 'breakfast' and watch as their garden 'greens'.
I'm afraid I'm not the kind of person who appreciates his noun being verbed.
You object to folks who breakfast? What nonsense. If I can break wind behind a breakwind, I will permit myself to break fast at breakfast.
My Japanese garden greens ("aoru") ... Gorgeous! Just what the English language needs. Now where did I put my walkman ... ?
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It is a ghastly word. It implies that the speaker has previously planed, or perhaps even enplaned, which doesn't sound like a particularly pleasant experience. I've just planed my bathroom door, and even that isn't likely to become deplaned in the near future.
I've never heard of anyone debus, decar debicycle or for that matter deseat.
I suspect the kind of people who 'deplane' also 'breakfast' and watch as their garden 'greens'.
I'm afraid I'm not the kind of person who appreciates his noun being verbed.
I've never heard of anyone debus, decar debicycle or for that matter deseat.
I suspect the kind of people who 'deplane' also 'breakfast' and watch as their garden 'greens'.
I'm afraid I'm not the kind of person who appreciates his noun being verbed.
It's not my favourite word either but that doesn't give me the right to declare it ungrammatical.
BTW, ever heard of "disembark"?
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Sure. But I prefer dat one.
FWIW - It seems that "emplane" is also a valid word. However, it appears to have gotten untalked.
http://letterstosg.com/deplane-no-tattoo-jokes
FWIW - It seems that "emplane" is also a valid word. However, it appears to have gotten untalked.
http://letterstosg.com/deplane-no-tattoo-jokes
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If you can postpone something, why should you not be able to prepone it?
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I'm sure you're all correct, but it still doesn't gruntle me very much.
And whilst I defend to the death your right to break fast at breakfast - or even to break wind at breakfast - I will not permit you to breakfast.
And whilst I defend to the death your right to break fast at breakfast - or even to break wind at breakfast - I will not permit you to breakfast.
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Just a couple of questions to the OP.
Did your flight show "Go to B gates" on the screens in the lounges?
Did you ask the agent how to get to B gates, or did you ask if your flight X was departing from B gates, and how do I get there?
I should also point out that whilst I also have a dislike for the coaching departure process for premium customers, there is never an occasion when the flight is boarded by just one person from BA. There have to have been announcements as they are triggered automatically by the boarding information system.
Did your flight show "Go to B gates" on the screens in the lounges?
Did you ask the agent how to get to B gates, or did you ask if your flight X was departing from B gates, and how do I get there?
I should also point out that whilst I also have a dislike for the coaching departure process for premium customers, there is never an occasion when the flight is boarded by just one person from BA. There have to have been announcements as they are triggered automatically by the boarding information system.
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But the treatment would have been the same regardless of the method of payment.
The flight on LH was also a milage redemption and cost fewer miles(120k v. 150k)than the normal BA F redemption-and the fees and taxes were much less the the exhorbitant $650usd per person that BA charges.
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[QUOTE=Raffles;12128561]
But you do agree that the product is priced differently no? LH is on average 50% more expensive in F than BA when you pay with money for the ticket. That is the comparission you should make. Not the miles redemption. If you charge E3500 more for a LAX-EUR-LAX flight per F seat than you can throw in a car and so on. I rather keep the 3500 (or more).
Edit: let me rephrase. Suppose you had to this trip again and BA was 3500 euro per person and LH was 6900, which would you choose even with the same level of service as you experienced?
Not that it matters a hill of beans either way but yes I did pay for this-with my hard earned miles
But the treatment would have been the same regardless of the method of payment.
The flight on LH was also a milage redemption and cost fewer miles(120k v. 150k)than the normal BA F redemption-and the fees and taxes were much less the the exhorbitant $650usd per person that BA charges.
But the treatment would have been the same regardless of the method of payment.
The flight on LH was also a milage redemption and cost fewer miles(120k v. 150k)than the normal BA F redemption-and the fees and taxes were much less the the exhorbitant $650usd per person that BA charges.
Edit: let me rephrase. Suppose you had to this trip again and BA was 3500 euro per person and LH was 6900, which would you choose even with the same level of service as you experienced?
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Just a couple of questions to the OP.
Did your flight show "Go to B gates" on the screens in the lounges?
Did you ask the agent how to get to B gates, or did you ask if your flight X was departing from B gates, and how do I get there?
I should also point out that whilst I also have a dislike for the coaching departure process for premium customers, there is never an occasion when the flight is boarded by just one person from BA. There have to have been announcements as they are triggered automatically by the boarding information system.
Did your flight show "Go to B gates" on the screens in the lounges?
Did you ask the agent how to get to B gates, or did you ask if your flight X was departing from B gates, and how do I get there?
I should also point out that whilst I also have a dislike for the coaching departure process for premium customers, there is never an occasion when the flight is boarded by just one person from BA. There have to have been announcements as they are triggered automatically by the boarding information system.
I inquired TWICE at the reception desk about our departure.The second time we asked about the flight and when we should depart the CCR for the B gates.Somewhere in the 15 minutes it took us to navigate to the B lounge reception the change happened.Could this happen-well sure(maybe)but it seems unlikely.
And the total abandoning of an F passengger at that point is where it starts to get ugly IMO.
Last edited by bigguyinpasadena; Jul 27, 2009 at 11:35 am
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let me put it this way(paraphrasing a MasterCard commercial)
Having your pasengers stand in the rain because noone thought to put a tarp up=Priceless
Having your pasengers stand in the rain because noone thought to put a tarp up=Priceless
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But you do agree that the product is priced differently no? LH is on average 50% more expensive in F than BA when you pay with money for the ticket. That is the comparission you should make. Not the miles redemption. If you charge E3500 more for a LAX-EUR-LAX flight per F seat than you can throw in a car and so on. I rather keep the 3500 (or more).
Edit: let me rephrase. Suppose you had to this trip again and BA was 3500 euro per person and LH was 6900, which would you choose even with the same level of service as you experienced?
Edit: let me rephrase. Suppose you had to this trip again and BA was 3500 euro per person and LH was 6900, which would you choose even with the same level of service as you experienced?
If the passenger were making a connecting flight to NCE (I just happened to pick that since I'm there now) the A fare on LH (ARSN14E) is also about $3000 less than BA's A fare (ARCNA6N), whilst LH offers an FR fare about $7500 less than BA's F1US fare. Obviously, both these itineraries require a connection, so there's no real reason for one to be less than the other, other than the fact you get treated like a derelict for connecting in F in LHR, and treated like royalty on LH when connecting in FRA.
Even LH's FR fare to FRA is $3600 less than BA's F1US fare to FRA, although BA offers an ARCNA6N fare for about $2600 less than LH's FR fare. This surprised me, as I would have expected LH to charge more on a route to FRA
For the sake of comparison, these are all quoted from ExpertFlyer using fare search for a one week journey from LAX to LHR, NCE or FRA in September.
Is there something I'm missing?
edited to add: all the fares referenced in F were upwards of $15000 (well, LH's A fare to NCE was only $11000, but still), so I will be the first to admit that although I do occasionally buy F fares (usually ex-Argentina) I would never buy any of the ex-LAX fares I'm quoting. I just checked them because I agreed with h-baby that the cash fare charged should be relevant, but I also suspected that there would be some routes where BA F was cheaper than LH, and others where LH F was cheaper than BA. I was actually surprised to see almost a clean sweep with LH cheaper!
Last edited by Schultzois; Jul 27, 2009 at 11:43 am
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That could have (and has) happened at LH too though. Most notibly during a downpoor in BLR I can remember...