Feb 6, 2021, 5:40 am
Last edit by: Prospero
This thread is the continuation of the discussion hosted in the BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition thread.
Useful tips and technical pointers
El_Duderito's explanation on fare routings and the maximum permitted distance you are allowed to travel (based on the distance between the origin and destination airports)
Helpful maps
The following series of maps show a 2,000 mile radius around each oneworld hub, useful for strategic planning purposes. Hopefully these will help your imagination to run free. Click on the images to reveal the accompanying maps.
EMEA
Asia Pacific
North America
Previous editions
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2018 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2017 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2016 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2015 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2014 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | original edition
Useful tips and technical pointers
El_Duderito's explanation on fare routings and the maximum permitted distance you are allowed to travel (based on the distance between the origin and destination airports)
Helpful maps
The following series of maps show a 2,000 mile radius around each oneworld hub, useful for strategic planning purposes. Hopefully these will help your imagination to run free. Click on the images to reveal the accompanying maps.
EMEA
Asia Pacific
North America
Previous editions
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2018 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2017 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2016 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2015 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2014 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | original edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2021 edition
Jul 27, 2021, 12:45 am
#781
Join Date: Jul 2009
Programs: BAEC Silver, IHG Diamond
Posts: 7,780
I've had a couple of AA changes for Oct today.
My transcon from LAX to JFK, overnight, but in economy anyway, is now LAX-CLT on whatever.
Sure a SFO-LAX flight now has under 50 mins between me arriving from London and it leaving.
Probably won't make any difference if I can't get into the US easily in Oct.
My transcon from LAX to JFK, overnight, but in economy anyway, is now LAX-CLT on whatever.
Sure a SFO-LAX flight now has under 50 mins between me arriving from London and it leaving.
Probably won't make any difference if I can't get into the US easily in Oct.
Last edited by xenole; Jul 27, 2021 at 3:05 am
Jul 27, 2021, 9:52 am
#782
Join Date: Mar 2016
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 681
Thanks Mikeyfly. I don’t suppose you know the current status extension policy. Desperate that Mr NW doesn’t loses his GGL and will send him wherever he needs to go….
Jul 30, 2021, 3:35 am
#783
Join Date: May 2021
Location: ZRH
Programs: AY Plat, Swiss SEN, Hertz Gold, HH Gold, Marriott Gold, Sixt Platinum
Posts: 82
so here is the next chapter of my TP-Run Story….. 
After 4 weeks with no action, I had take a look on MMB on wednesday and was shocked what I see.
From my original booking, which was CDG-LHR-HEL/ HEL-JFK/ LGA-CLT-LAX/ SNA-PHX-JFK-HEL-LHR-CDG in December, there were only CDG-LHR-LAX-LHR-CDG left!
I check my Mail (including Spam) but there was no notification from BA on this. Yesterday, I call Bremen. First the Agent told me, that I have agree with this rebooking. So I asked her, for an evidence on this, because on my last call I was against this Routing and prefer to canx my booking before I fly this (as I say before, I need to go to NY and LA).
The Agent then try to rebook the original Routing (without HEL), but after a few minutes, she said, she can‘t do it, because on my dates were no I-Class availability anymore. So there is nothing she can do.
After a few moments, I decide to canx the booking. She agree with that, but she could only give me a FTV, no money back in that case….. what?
I booked a specific Route on a Ticket and BA decide to change this, to a less attractive Route without any asking or permission. Now they won‘t rebuild the original Ticket and hold my money. Sorry to say, but in my eyes, that’s a scam.
I can’t offer a Porsche and deliver a Beetle after payment.
At this Point I’m very very disappointed with BA. After AY canx BA6005/6006 I was very open to changes, including to ditch HEL. But BA was very strict with options and denied all my proposals.
Why should I trust BA and booked again after this bad and ugly experience?
After 4 weeks with no action, I had take a look on MMB on wednesday and was shocked what I see.
From my original booking, which was CDG-LHR-HEL/ HEL-JFK/ LGA-CLT-LAX/ SNA-PHX-JFK-HEL-LHR-CDG in December, there were only CDG-LHR-LAX-LHR-CDG left!
I check my Mail (including Spam) but there was no notification from BA on this. Yesterday, I call Bremen. First the Agent told me, that I have agree with this rebooking. So I asked her, for an evidence on this, because on my last call I was against this Routing and prefer to canx my booking before I fly this (as I say before, I need to go to NY and LA).
The Agent then try to rebook the original Routing (without HEL), but after a few minutes, she said, she can‘t do it, because on my dates were no I-Class availability anymore. So there is nothing she can do.
After a few moments, I decide to canx the booking. She agree with that, but she could only give me a FTV, no money back in that case….. what?
I booked a specific Route on a Ticket and BA decide to change this, to a less attractive Route without any asking or permission. Now they won‘t rebuild the original Ticket and hold my money. Sorry to say, but in my eyes, that’s a scam.
I can’t offer a Porsche and deliver a Beetle after payment.
At this Point I’m very very disappointed with BA. After AY canx BA6005/6006 I was very open to changes, including to ditch HEL. But BA was very strict with options and denied all my proposals.
Why should I trust BA and booked again after this bad and ugly experience?
Jul 30, 2021, 3:52 am
#784
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: WAW ✈ LHR ✈ GLA
Programs: BA GfL/GGL/CCR, HH Diamond, IHG Diamond Ambassador
Posts: 2,502
so here is the next chapter of my TP-Run Story…..
After 4 weeks with no action, I had take a look on MMB on wednesday and was shocked what I see.
From my original booking, which was CDG-LHR-HEL/ HEL-JFK/ LGA-CLT-LAX/ SNA-PHX-JFK-HEL-LHR-CDG in December, there were only CDG-LHR-LAX-LHR-CDG left!
I check my Mail (including Spam) but there was no notification from BA on this. Yesterday, I call Bremen. First the Agent told me, that I have agree with this rebooking. So I asked her, for an evidence on this, because on my last call I was against this Routing and prefer to canx my booking before I fly this (as I say before, I need to go to NY and LA).
The Agent then try to rebook the original Routing (without HEL), but after a few minutes, she said, she can‘t do it, because on my dates were no I-Class availability anymore. So there is nothing she can do.
After a few moments, I decide to canx the booking. She agree with that, but she could only give me a FTV, no money back in that case….. what?
I booked a specific Route on a Ticket and BA decide to change this, to a less attractive Route without any asking or permission. Now they won‘t rebuild the original Ticket and hold my money. Sorry to say, but in my eyes, that’s a scam.
I can’t offer a Porsche and deliver a Beetle after payment.
At this Point I’m very very disappointed with BA. After AY canx BA6005/6006 I was very open to changes, including to ditch HEL. But BA was very strict with options and denied all my proposals.
Why should I trust BA and booked again after this bad and ugly experience?
After 4 weeks with no action, I had take a look on MMB on wednesday and was shocked what I see.
From my original booking, which was CDG-LHR-HEL/ HEL-JFK/ LGA-CLT-LAX/ SNA-PHX-JFK-HEL-LHR-CDG in December, there were only CDG-LHR-LAX-LHR-CDG left!
I check my Mail (including Spam) but there was no notification from BA on this. Yesterday, I call Bremen. First the Agent told me, that I have agree with this rebooking. So I asked her, for an evidence on this, because on my last call I was against this Routing and prefer to canx my booking before I fly this (as I say before, I need to go to NY and LA).
The Agent then try to rebook the original Routing (without HEL), but after a few minutes, she said, she can‘t do it, because on my dates were no I-Class availability anymore. So there is nothing she can do.
After a few moments, I decide to canx the booking. She agree with that, but she could only give me a FTV, no money back in that case….. what?
I booked a specific Route on a Ticket and BA decide to change this, to a less attractive Route without any asking or permission. Now they won‘t rebuild the original Ticket and hold my money. Sorry to say, but in my eyes, that’s a scam.
I can’t offer a Porsche and deliver a Beetle after payment.
At this Point I’m very very disappointed with BA. After AY canx BA6005/6006 I was very open to changes, including to ditch HEL. But BA was very strict with options and denied all my proposals.
Why should I trust BA and booked again after this bad and ugly experience?
It also looks like you've got a novice agent, not fully trained to resolve complex cases. I'd call again and try a different agent?
Jul 30, 2021, 3:58 am
#785
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: London
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 218
so here is the next chapter of my TP-Run Story…..
After 4 weeks with no action, I had take a look on MMB on wednesday and was shocked what I see.
From my original booking, which was CDG-LHR-HEL/ HEL-JFK/ LGA-CLT-LAX/ SNA-PHX-JFK-HEL-LHR-CDG in December, there were only CDG-LHR-LAX-LHR-CDG left!
I check my Mail (including Spam) but there was no notification from BA on this. Yesterday, I call Bremen. First the Agent told me, that I have agree with this rebooking. So I asked her, for an evidence on this, because on my last call I was against this Routing and prefer to canx my booking before I fly this (as I say before, I need to go to NY and LA).
The Agent then try to rebook the original Routing (without HEL), but after a few minutes, she said, she can‘t do it, because on my dates were no I-Class availability anymore. So there is nothing she can do.
After a few moments, I decide to canx the booking. She agree with that, but she could only give me a FTV, no money back in that case….. what?
I booked a specific Route on a Ticket and BA decide to change this, to a less attractive Route without any asking or permission. Now they won‘t rebuild the original Ticket and hold my money. Sorry to say, but in my eyes, that’s a scam.
I can’t offer a Porsche and deliver a Beetle after payment.
At this Point I’m very very disappointed with BA. After AY canx BA6005/6006 I was very open to changes, including to ditch HEL. But BA was very strict with options and denied all my proposals.
Why should I trust BA and booked again after this bad and ugly experience?
After 4 weeks with no action, I had take a look on MMB on wednesday and was shocked what I see.
From my original booking, which was CDG-LHR-HEL/ HEL-JFK/ LGA-CLT-LAX/ SNA-PHX-JFK-HEL-LHR-CDG in December, there were only CDG-LHR-LAX-LHR-CDG left!
I check my Mail (including Spam) but there was no notification from BA on this. Yesterday, I call Bremen. First the Agent told me, that I have agree with this rebooking. So I asked her, for an evidence on this, because on my last call I was against this Routing and prefer to canx my booking before I fly this (as I say before, I need to go to NY and LA).
The Agent then try to rebook the original Routing (without HEL), but after a few minutes, she said, she can‘t do it, because on my dates were no I-Class availability anymore. So there is nothing she can do.
After a few moments, I decide to canx the booking. She agree with that, but she could only give me a FTV, no money back in that case….. what?
I booked a specific Route on a Ticket and BA decide to change this, to a less attractive Route without any asking or permission. Now they won‘t rebuild the original Ticket and hold my money. Sorry to say, but in my eyes, that’s a scam.
I can’t offer a Porsche and deliver a Beetle after payment.
At this Point I’m very very disappointed with BA. After AY canx BA6005/6006 I was very open to changes, including to ditch HEL. But BA was very strict with options and denied all my proposals.
Why should I trust BA and booked again after this bad and ugly experience?
Jul 30, 2021, 4:32 am
#786
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Programs: TK Elite Plus,BAEC GGL,ITA Executive, AFKL Gold,QR Gold,HH Diamond,Bonvoy Gold,ALL Gold
Posts: 14,186
so here is the next chapter of my TP-Run Story…..
After 4 weeks with no action, I had take a look on MMB on wednesday and was shocked what I see.
From my original booking, which was CDG-LHR-HEL/ HEL-JFK/ LGA-CLT-LAX/ SNA-PHX-JFK-HEL-LHR-CDG in December, there were only CDG-LHR-LAX-LHR-CDG left!
I check my Mail (including Spam) but there was no notification from BA on this. Yesterday, I call Bremen. First the Agent told me, that I have agree with this rebooking. So I asked her, for an evidence on this, because on my last call I was against this Routing and prefer to canx my booking before I fly this (as I say before, I need to go to NY and LA).
The Agent then try to rebook the original Routing (without HEL), but after a few minutes, she said, she can‘t do it, because on my dates were no I-Class availability anymore. So there is nothing she can do.
After a few moments, I decide to canx the booking. She agree with that, but she could only give me a FTV, no money back in that case….. what?
I booked a specific Route on a Ticket and BA decide to change this, to a less attractive Route without any asking or permission. Now they won‘t rebuild the original Ticket and hold my money. Sorry to say, but in my eyes, that’s a scam.
I can’t offer a Porsche and deliver a Beetle after payment.
At this Point I’m very very disappointed with BA. After AY canx BA6005/6006 I was very open to changes, including to ditch HEL. But BA was very strict with options and denied all my proposals.
Why should I trust BA and booked again after this bad and ugly experience?
After 4 weeks with no action, I had take a look on MMB on wednesday and was shocked what I see.
From my original booking, which was CDG-LHR-HEL/ HEL-JFK/ LGA-CLT-LAX/ SNA-PHX-JFK-HEL-LHR-CDG in December, there were only CDG-LHR-LAX-LHR-CDG left!
I check my Mail (including Spam) but there was no notification from BA on this. Yesterday, I call Bremen. First the Agent told me, that I have agree with this rebooking. So I asked her, for an evidence on this, because on my last call I was against this Routing and prefer to canx my booking before I fly this (as I say before, I need to go to NY and LA).
The Agent then try to rebook the original Routing (without HEL), but after a few minutes, she said, she can‘t do it, because on my dates were no I-Class availability anymore. So there is nothing she can do.
After a few moments, I decide to canx the booking. She agree with that, but she could only give me a FTV, no money back in that case….. what?
I booked a specific Route on a Ticket and BA decide to change this, to a less attractive Route without any asking or permission. Now they won‘t rebuild the original Ticket and hold my money. Sorry to say, but in my eyes, that’s a scam.
I can’t offer a Porsche and deliver a Beetle after payment.
At this Point I’m very very disappointed with BA. After AY canx BA6005/6006 I was very open to changes, including to ditch HEL. But BA was very strict with options and denied all my proposals.
Why should I trust BA and booked again after this bad and ugly experience?
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Also, peter.r.erskine , a flight cancellation ( in this case HEL-JFK & JFK-HEL ) on 125- stock would qualify for a full refund despite what time the OP is arriving to his final destination.
Although, if the agency ( BA Holidays ) accepted the change behalf of the OP, there is nothing much to do other than some paths that might lead into hassle.
Jul 30, 2021, 4:58 am
#787
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: SOU
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 33
Also, peter.r.erskine , a flight cancellation ( in this case HEL-JFK & JFK-HEL ) on 125- stock would qualify for a full refund despite what time the OP is arriving to his final destination.
Although, if the agency ( BA Holidays ) accepted the change behalf of the OP, there is nothing much to do other than some paths that might lead into hassle.
Is that the case even if it's a BAH booking? I'm not disputing, just asking for future reference.
Jul 30, 2021, 5:00 am
#788
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Programs: TK Elite Plus,BAEC GGL,ITA Executive, AFKL Gold,QR Gold,HH Diamond,Bonvoy Gold,ALL Gold
Posts: 14,186
As the OP is originating from France, EC261/2004 would apply in this case; thus the OP is eligible for a full refund unless he voluntarily accepted any other change including alternative flights, vouchers, etc...
Jul 30, 2021, 6:17 am
#789
Join Date: May 2021
Location: ZRH
Programs: AY Plat, Swiss SEN, Hertz Gold, HH Gold, Marriott Gold, Sixt Platinum
Posts: 82
I have a 125-Ticket issued by BA Bremen.
What really pissed me off, is the assertions, that I agree to the new Routing.
As I memtion earlier in this Thread, this was the only Option the SUP offer me, at my last call, 4 weeks ago. And I denied it.
At the time of booking, I were able to book CDG-LHR-LAX for less money (350.- Euro after all), as I pay for my HEL-Ticket. But I decide for the more complex routing (with more TP of course).
Then AY canx ther Midday flights and my attemps to get a routing that work for me (like CDG-NYC/ NYC-LAX/ LAX-LHR-CDG) failed due to BA.
So after all this, why should I accepted a FTV?
What really pissed me off, is the assertions, that I agree to the new Routing.
As I memtion earlier in this Thread, this was the only Option the SUP offer me, at my last call, 4 weeks ago. And I denied it.
At the time of booking, I were able to book CDG-LHR-LAX for less money (350.- Euro after all), as I pay for my HEL-Ticket. But I decide for the more complex routing (with more TP of course).
Then AY canx ther Midday flights and my attemps to get a routing that work for me (like CDG-NYC/ NYC-LAX/ LAX-LHR-CDG) failed due to BA.
So after all this, why should I accepted a FTV?
Jul 30, 2021, 6:23 am
#790
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: BER
Programs: BA GGL, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,843
I have a 125-Ticket issued by BA Bremen.
What really pissed me off, is the assertions, that I agree to the new Routing.
As I memtion earlier in this Thread, this was the only Option the SUP offer me, at my last call, 4 weeks ago. And I denied it.
At the time of booking, I were able to book CDG-LHR-LAX for less money (350.- Euro after all), as I pay for my HEL-Ticket. But I decide for the more complex routing (with more TP of course).
Then AY canx ther Midday flights and my attemps to get a routing that work for me (like CDG-NYC/ NYC-LAX/ LAX-LHR-CDG) failed due to BA.
So after all this, why should I accepted a FTV?
What really pissed me off, is the assertions, that I agree to the new Routing.
As I memtion earlier in this Thread, this was the only Option the SUP offer me, at my last call, 4 weeks ago. And I denied it.
At the time of booking, I were able to book CDG-LHR-LAX for less money (350.- Euro after all), as I pay for my HEL-Ticket. But I decide for the more complex routing (with more TP of course).
Then AY canx ther Midday flights and my attemps to get a routing that work for me (like CDG-NYC/ NYC-LAX/ LAX-LHR-CDG) failed due to BA.
So after all this, why should I accepted a FTV?
i had this issue by myself once - when you start shuffeling flights and trying to enter a new routing for the passenger, the system thinks, the pax accepted the change. you have to get Bremen to enter it manually that you havent accepted it.
Jul 30, 2021, 10:36 am
#791
Join Date: Aug 2014
Programs: BA Executive Club and OnBusiness
Posts: 721
Oneworld AMS-LHR-MIA-LHR-NCE for £882 in business class in November
Other US destinations also available e.g. LAX for £909
Multiple stops available for a little more
Other US destinations also available e.g. LAX for £909
Multiple stops available for a little more
Jul 30, 2021, 11:15 am
#792
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: BER
Programs: BA GGL, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,843
Jul 30, 2021, 11:31 am
#793
Join Date: Mar 2020
Programs: British Airways GGL/CCR, Hilton Diamond & Marriott Gold
Posts: 2,612
Jul 30, 2021, 11:33 am
#794
Join Date: Aug 2014
Programs: BA Executive Club and OnBusiness
Posts: 721
(SFO can be done for £834 if you fly AMS-HEL-LAX-SFO-ORD-MAD-NCE)
Jul 30, 2021, 11:37 am
#795
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: BER
Programs: BA GGL, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,843