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Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2018 Tier Point thread (found here). We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.

This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.

A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.

From Europe

15 Oct £0.96/TP £154 160 TPs LHR-SOF (2021 dates)
24 Feb £1.90/TP £152 80TP MAD-FRA Z/Z LA (available Feb-Mar 2019, immediate turnarounds possible)
10 Aug £2.06/TP £329 160TP LHR-MAD-RAK RAK-MAD-LHR I/I/I/I IB (available August, Sat night stay) BA.com, note hotels on offer until 26 March
3 Jul £2.99/TP £2,758.45 920TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB J/I/I/I/I/I/I/J Fare basis INX4C3S4 and INN4C1S4. Booked on AA via ITA Matrix Powertools script
18 Dec £1.90/TP £1370 720TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB All I class Flights 25 December to 31 March 2020, transatlantic Mon to Thur. Offer to 18 Dec. ITA details booked by TA Propeller
27 Apr £2.29/TP £640TP BEG-DOH-KUL-PEN-KUL-DOH-BEG I / I / I / I / I / I Fare IJR2R1RE Bookable on QR.com

From North, Central and South America
10Jan £1.52/TP £668 440tp JFK-BOS/CLT-LAX-LAS-LAX-BOS/CLT-JFK I / I / I / I / I / I HPN-HRL AA (find with ITA; probably have to book via a TA)
12Apr £0.90/TP £215 240tp DCA-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I/I/I/I/I/I/I AA Found with ITA, booked on the AA site with BookWithMatrix
23Apr £ 0.76/TP £ 182 240TP DCA-PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Apr £ 1.04/TP £ 459 440TP YVR-LAX-CLT-ATL-CLT-LAX-YVR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
23May £ 0.70/TP £ 169 240TP EWR-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-DFW-EWR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Jun £ 0.52/TP £ 128 240TP LAX-DFW-PHX-SJC-PHX-DFW-LAX I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools

From Middle East, Asia and Australasia

04/01 £0.95/TP £479 560tp AUH-CMB-CGK-CMB-AUH I / I / I / I cgtechuk UL
1FEB £1.49/TP £1,673 1,120tp PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-BKK Return (All book in I Class) timcjp BA (Ticket sold by BA, flights are on QF, BA & JL and lie flat seats available for all sectors)
23/04 £2.07/TP £2,112 1020TP CAI-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-DFW-ORD-LHR-CAI I/R here (All flights must be BA numbered)

From Africa
04/01 £1.80/TP £721 400tp CPT-JNB-GRU-JNB-DUR-CPT I / Z / Z / I / I ubiest LA

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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post 4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread (here), MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and return on Sunday for well under £500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Old Mar 11, 2019, 8:27 am
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I thought about MEL and take advantage of the QF 787 but MEL -PER is only 40 TPs, so SYD works better
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Old Mar 11, 2019, 9:35 am
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Originally Posted by snaxmuppet
I am doing AGP-HEL-DEL (AY) then DEL-KUL-NRT/HND-JFK (MH)-LHR (BA) starting Friday. I would have preferred the Australia trip but it wasn't available when I booked. This AGP-HEL-DEL looks pretty good for TP runs especially is you get it for about £900 as I did. I'll be blogging about it on the way if anyone is interested. I managed to get LGW-AGP in J for just £139 too using a few Avios.
Very interesting routing, how did you build it and what’s the fare ?
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Old Mar 11, 2019, 10:14 am
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hey guys,

its me again.

I rearranged some things and found a routing to JFK on dec 31 with an earlier arrival. so i got almost 7 hrs to get to times Square.

Some suggestions on this routing? (including: hell no! dont do that!)
(old routing for comparison attached too)

new routing

old routing


Thanks in advance
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Old Mar 11, 2019, 1:15 pm
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Originally Posted by CompassLHR
Very interesting routing, how did you build it and what’s the fare ?
I saw an article in the blog Turning Left for Less that suggested this routing and also suggested the routing to Perth. I didn't have time for the Perth route but wanted to go around the world as a TP run and so booked it.

I have 4 tickets...

LGW - AGP - positioning flight with BA, booked a cheap one-way in ET on BA.com but upgraded to CE when offered a sensible POUG. £140

AGP-HEL-DEL - special offer from Finnair, booked on AY web site direct in J, £810.

DEL-KUL-NRT/HND-JFK - special offer from Malaysian but booked through BA on the phone in J, £1037

JFK-LHR - Avios rewards flight in WTP, booked on BA.com

A couple of interesting things re my bookings...

- the DEL-JFK was booked through the BA phone line but all flights are on MH flight numbers, all flights on MH metal except HND-JFK which is on JL metal (JL6)

- When booking DEL-JFK I had to call several times before I found an agent willing/able to book in the right classes to give me the right price (selling class D)

- arranged to have an overnight stop between most tickets so stopping at AGP, DEL and NRT. No overnight at JFK but an 11hr connection so fingers crossed.
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Old Mar 11, 2019, 2:19 pm
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Originally Posted by bchang
Great TP value for the DEL-PER return if routing through SYD. However, searching on the MH website directly yields this fare only on the connections through ADL or MEL. BNE or SYD comes up twice as much. Still, a great find! Thanks.
Construct the itinerary in ITAmatrix and then use the ITApowertools Bookmarklet:

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Old Mar 11, 2019, 3:03 pm
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Originally Posted by snaxmuppet
I saw an article in the blog Turning Left for Less that suggested this routing and also suggested the routing to Perth. I didn't have time for the Perth route but wanted to go around the world as a TP run and so booked it.

I have 4 tickets...

LGW - AGP - positioning flight with BA, booked a cheap one-way in ET on BA.com but upgraded to CE when offered a sensible POUG. £140

AGP-HEL-DEL - special offer from Finnair, booked on AY web site direct in J, £810.

DEL-KUL-NRT/HND-JFK - special offer from Malaysian but booked through BA on the phone in J, £1037

JFK-LHR - Avios rewards flight in WTP, booked on BA.com

A couple of interesting things re my bookings...

- the DEL-JFK was booked through the BA phone line but all flights are on MH flight numbers, all flights on MH metal except HND-JFK which is on JL metal (JL6)

- When booking DEL-JFK I had to call several times before I found an agent willing/able to book in the right classes to give me the right price (selling class D)

- arranged to have an overnight stop between most tickets so stopping at AGP, DEL and NRT. No overnight at JFK but an 11hr connection so fingers crossed.
I am looking forward to read your blog, please share it once you are back
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Old Mar 11, 2019, 4:19 pm
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Originally Posted by CX_newbie
5* hotels are very cheap in Jakarta.
This joins "taxis are dirt cheap is Dubai" as an enduring travel myth.

Well placed 5-stars in Jakarta can offer value compared to Hong Kong, London etc, but can also be painfully expensive for self-funding visits, especially after tax and service is added in. Lower rates are at weekends.

As it seems the OP might be in Indonesia for only one night, I'd suggest one of the hotels in or around the airport. The ex-Sheraton, now Bandara International is pricey but on-airport (though still needs a shuttle): there are Ibis hotels and some smarter offers close to CGK. In the city value is in second-tier chains such as the Holiday Inns and Doubletree. For hotels next to the city centre rail link at BNI Sudirman station, look to the Holiday Inn Express Thamrin or the All Seasons. They should give you change from £40, and are within a short walk of the Kempinski and the swanky malls.

PS the airport to city rail link I refer to above is recommended over taxis as it gives (more) dependable timings for the city-airport trip. Trains run every half hour and take something over 45 minutes though there's a measure of faff getting to the airport station. Tickets are easy, using credit card. A taxis usually takes about one hour, but that can easily run to ninety minutes or more: my record is four hours.

For the single passenger the rail ticket represents half the taxi fare. OK, that's £5 instead of £10, but it's till a saving .

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Old Mar 11, 2019, 4:35 pm
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Originally Posted by jwils642
Location: 21-Apr - 26-Apr - BA Premium Economy - using some Avios.
AHU-CGK 22-25 Apr (Business)
With a run to Taipei in between on Cathay/Cathay Dragon via HKG (Business) returning on the same day 23-Apr.



With hotels in the places where I'll be for a night - it'll put me back £2k. How does that sound to the more seasoned TP runners?
I'm not much of a TP runner, but I spend a lot of time in Jakarta. Be careful with international-international connections at CGK - these often have to be landside and can involve significant faff. I believe Cathay is still at T2 while SriLankan is already at the new (and horrible) T3. There's a neat train between the two, but the transfer eats into connection times.
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Old Mar 11, 2019, 4:40 pm
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Originally Posted by CompassLHR


I am looking forward to read your blog, please share it once you are back
Thank you. The link to my blog is in my signature if anyone is interested

23rd Mar 2019 - FT Mini Do - Gibraltar
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Old Mar 11, 2019, 4:53 pm
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Originally Posted by Nephoi
hey guys,

its me again.

I rearranged some things and found a routing to JFK on dec 31 with an earlier arrival. so i got almost 7 hrs to get to times Square.

Some suggestions on this routing? (including: hell no! dont do that!)
(old routing for comparison attached too)

new routing

old routing


Thanks in advance
The A321T with a flat bed will be a lot more comfortable than a 738 with recliner seats. Some 738s don’t even have personal IFE and aren’t very comfy at all for a transcon from personal experience
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Old Mar 11, 2019, 5:26 pm
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1FEB £1.49/TP £1,673 1,120tp PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-BKK Return (All book in I Class) timcjp BA (Ticket sold by BA, flights are on QF, BA & JL and lie flat seats available for all sectors)
I saw this on the sticky at the top of the page. I wondered if anyone was able to find a way to book?

thanks for your help
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Old Mar 11, 2019, 5:57 pm
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Originally Posted by IAN-UK
This joins "taxis are dirt cheap is Dubai" as an enduring travel myth.

Well placed 5-stars in Jakarta can offer value compared to Hong Kong, London etc, but can also be painfully expensive for self-funding visits, especially after tax and service is added in. Lower rates are at weekends.

As it seems the OP might be in Indonesia for only one night, I'd suggest one of the hotels in or around the airport. The ex-Sheraton, now Bandara International is pricey but on-airport (though still needs a shuttle): there are Ibis hotels and some smarter offers close to CGK. In the city value is in second-tier chains such as the Holiday Inns and Doubletree. For hotels next to the city centre rail link at BNI Sudirman station, look to the Holiday Inn Express Thamrin or the All Seasons. They should give you change from £40, and are within a short walk of the Kempinski and the swanky malls.

PS the airport to city rail link I refer to above is recommended over taxis as it gives (more) dependable timings for the city-airport trip. Trains run every half hour and take something over 45 minutes though there's a measure of faff getting to the airport station. Tickets are easy, using credit card. A taxis usually takes about one hour, but that can easily run to ninety minutes or more: my record is four hours.

For the single passenger the rail ticket represents half the taxi fare. OK, that's £5 instead of £10, but it's till a saving .
Generally, for short stays, I'm not fussed about hotel star ratings. I've been to Jakarta twice in the last few months and have stayed in the city both times (just north of the National Monument park).

Both places were clean, new and comfortable. I stayed two nights in the first: Hotel Santika at ca £45/night inc breakfast. Then four nights in the second: Yello Hotel Harmoni at ca £31/night. Good customer service from both.

Blue Bird taxis to and from the airport were ca IDR 150,000. I haven't spent enough time in the city to fully understand the public transport system and taxis were easily available and, to me, were good value.
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Old Mar 11, 2019, 8:33 pm
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Originally Posted by IAN-UK
I'm not much of a TP runner, but I spend a lot of time in Jakarta. Be careful with international-international connections at CGK - these often have to be landside and can involve significant faff. I believe Cathay is still at T2 while SriLankan is already at the new (and horrible) T3. There's a neat train between the two, but the transfer eats into connection times.
Yes, it is significant faff. Having done a TP run via CGK, I can agree. Even with an airline staff meeting me on arrival at the gate in T2, it still took about an hour to get airside from T2 to T3 as the trains are slow and seem to run infrequently. As well, you still need to clear immigration both at T2 and T3.
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Old Mar 11, 2019, 8:38 pm
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Originally Posted by snaxmuppet



DEL-KUL-NRT/HND-JFK - special offer from Malaysian but booked through BA on the phone in J, £1037


Didn't know this could be booked via BA! Thanks.
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Old Mar 11, 2019, 9:03 pm
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Anything good out there at the moment for 200TPs? Based out of London, but UK repositioning is easy and I'm likely to be in Paris late March, so could setup an ex-CDG flight plan on the 27th.

Looks like I'll be on 6800TPs by March 19th, giving me just shy of a further three weeks to reach 7000TPs for a GUF2 voucher (no later than April 7th). Next points year I doubt I'll be making much more than the Gold threshold, thus pushing for the GUF now rather than chasing 2500TPs later on is maybe the most cost-effective way...
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