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Old Jan 4, 2019, 9:09 am
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Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2018 Tier Point thread (found here). We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.

This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.

A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.

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See here in post 9 for a 2019 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2018 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.

From Europe

15 Oct £0.96/TP £154 160 TPs LHR-SOF (2021 dates)
24 Feb £1.90/TP £152 80TP MAD-FRA Z/Z LA (available Feb-Mar 2019, immediate turnarounds possible)
10 Aug £2.06/TP £329 160TP LHR-MAD-RAK RAK-MAD-LHR I/I/I/I IB (available August, Sat night stay) BA.com, note hotels on offer until 26 March
3 Jul £2.99/TP £2,758.45 920TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB J/I/I/I/I/I/I/J Fare basis INX4C3S4 and INN4C1S4. Booked on AA via ITA Matrix Powertools script
18 Dec £1.90/TP £1370 720TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB All I class Flights 25 December to 31 March 2020, transatlantic Mon to Thur. Offer to 18 Dec. ITA details booked by TA Propeller
27 Apr £2.29/TP £640TP BEG-DOH-KUL-PEN-KUL-DOH-BEG I / I / I / I / I / I Fare IJR2R1RE Bookable on QR.com

From North, Central and South America
10Jan £1.52/TP £668 440tp JFK-BOS/CLT-LAX-LAS-LAX-BOS/CLT-JFK I / I / I / I / I / I HPN-HRL AA (find with ITA; probably have to book via a TA)
12Apr £0.90/TP £215 240tp DCA-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I/I/I/I/I/I/I AA Found with ITA, booked on the AA site with BookWithMatrix
23Apr £ 0.76/TP £ 182 240TP DCA-PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Apr £ 1.04/TP £ 459 440TP YVR-LAX-CLT-ATL-CLT-LAX-YVR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
23May £ 0.70/TP £ 169 240TP EWR-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-DFW-EWR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Jun £ 0.52/TP £ 128 240TP LAX-DFW-PHX-SJC-PHX-DFW-LAX I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools

From Middle East, Asia and Australasia

04/01 £0.95/TP £479 560tp AUH-CMB-CGK-CMB-AUH I / I / I / I cgtechuk UL
1FEB £1.49/TP £1,673 1,120tp PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-BKK Return (All book in I Class) timcjp BA (Ticket sold by BA, flights are on QF, BA & JL and lie flat seats available for all sectors)
23/04 £2.07/TP £2,112 1020TP CAI-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-DFW-ORD-LHR-CAI I/R here (All flights must be BA numbered)

From Africa
04/01 £1.80/TP £721 400tp CPT-JNB-GRU-JNB-DUR-CPT I / Z / Z / I / I ubiest LA

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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post 4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread (here), MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and return on Sunday for well under £500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Old Jul 22, 2019, 5:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Fitch
I respect the impulse to push the boundaries of TP running, but in a world where 1680TPs can be had for £1500 by shuttling back and forth (In reasonable comfort) between the UAE and Jakarta, it doesn't really make much sense to me
well, as most things in live, personal preferences I'd say. Such as combining one thing (gaining tp) with others (vacation, making use of the many free stopovers, generous cancellation/change fee as low as 33 USD/53 USD....)
bargain hunting to the limit is not everyone's cup of tea
AUH-CMB-CGK is there "to be done", CMB-XXX-XXX-XXX-XXX-HNL is here "to have fun"
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Old Jul 22, 2019, 5:46 pm
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Originally Posted by boogen
OK, I give up, why does the return leg only work if AA100 is included?
Who says it only works if AA100 is included?
You can route through ANY AA destination in Europe (CDG, LHR, MXP, BCN) which will be served by QR as well.
So FCO won't do the trick (TATL AA but no QR flight) as opposite ZRH, FRA .... won't work as well (QR but no TATL AA flights)
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Old Jul 22, 2019, 6:19 pm
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proof of what I wrote earlier:


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Old Jul 23, 2019, 1:33 am
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Originally Posted by jonnye
The problem with this route is the MCT @ AUH is 60mins so you can't book back to back i.e. UL364 -->UL365 on the same day as its 55min - meaning you need to kill 24hrs in Jakarta (which isn't a bad way to kill 24hrs) however for a TP run - its time wasted.

The question is - could one 'nest' a separate booking enabling you to take the UL365 back (i.e. Outbound 1st Ticket returning inbound 2nd ticket... then outbound 2nd ticket returning inbound on 1st ticket) - is that even doable?



It's a fantastic fare nonetheless!
You can b2b at AUH very easily (quite a few of us have done it).

B2b at CGK is possible if you have a contact at the airport, but otherwise I wouldn't risk it - passport control and long walks make it a lengthy arrival process even when not doing a b2b!

With CGK as cheap a city as it is, the other costs associated with a TP run (which most usually forget to include), make this an absolute steal.

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Old Jul 23, 2019, 2:21 am
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Originally Posted by msm2000uk
B2b at CGK is possible if you have a contact at the airport, but otherwise I wouldn't risk it - passport control and long walks make it a lengthy arrival process even when not doing a b2b!
I thought B2B was possible only at CGK T2, but is still possible with UL move to T3?
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Old Jul 23, 2019, 2:36 am
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Have you checked the main CGK run for further discussion :

Oneworld: UL: DXB-CGK in J, $800 R/T
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Old Jul 23, 2019, 2:43 am
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Don't try a B2B at CGK. You are setting yourself up for failure.
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Old Jul 23, 2019, 3:17 am
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LHR - PHL CW to F - £659

I declined.

I asked about upgrading avios from club to first on the day and I was told it was 105,300 avios. Basically you can upgrade with avios on the day but it is at a vast premium.

To upgrade online during peak times it’s only 20,000!
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Old Jul 23, 2019, 4:17 am
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I was looking to do KUL-KTM-KUL with MH - 280 tier points for £525. MH has a 60 minute turnaround at KTM and I was wondering if B2B was possible?
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Old Jul 23, 2019, 4:21 am
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Possible but risky as you need to go landside through immigration. That can take a while if you are getting visa on arrival you fill in a form on a machine for a visa and it’s very crowded with some of the machines non functional.

with a visa already, not impossible but tight.

kathmandhu is a great place for a visit anyway. I’d stay a day and do a tour.
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Old Jul 23, 2019, 4:22 am
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Also worth looking at ex BKK via KUL. That’s how I did it.
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Old Jul 23, 2019, 6:25 am
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From BKK You might also consider BKK-CMB-BOM 160 TP for £ 394
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Old Jul 23, 2019, 8:14 am
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Originally Posted by searlech
I was looking to do KUL-KTM-KUL with MH - 280 tier points for £525. MH has a 60 minute turnaround at KTM and I was wondering if B2B was possible?
I would NOT recommend trying a b2b, even the airport is really small.
The Hyatt Regency KTM is cheap on points, get yourself a Club room ;-)
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Old Jul 23, 2019, 10:34 am
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Originally Posted by alp67
proof of what I wrote earlier:

Good to know. I must have run a hundred different runs, maybe it's the latency of the VPN combined with a slow internet.
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Old Jul 25, 2019, 3:31 am
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Originally Posted by alp67
very easy to replicate on ITA, thx for sharing
availability for Feb 2020:



This is in my opinion a master example for a true MR, meaning 7 days of almost constant flying







So this this is what I'm getting based on same dates:
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