Jan 4, 2019, 9:09 am
Last edit by: jfkeze
Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2018 Tier Point thread (found here). We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
See here in post 9 for a 2019 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2018 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
- List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.
Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.
From Europe
15 Oct £0.96/TP £154 160 TPs LHR-SOF (2021 dates)
24 Feb £1.90/TP £152 80TP MAD-FRA Z/Z LA (available Feb-Mar 2019, immediate turnarounds possible)
10 Aug £2.06/TP £329 160TP LHR-MAD-RAK RAK-MAD-LHR I/I/I/I IB (available August, Sat night stay) BA.com, note hotels on offer until 26 March
3 Jul £2.99/TP £2,758.45 920TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB J/I/I/I/I/I/I/J Fare basis INX4C3S4 and INN4C1S4. Booked on AA via ITA Matrix Powertools script
18 Dec £1.90/TP £1370 720TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB All I class Flights 25 December to 31 March 2020, transatlantic Mon to Thur. Offer to 18 Dec. ITA details booked by TA Propeller
27 Apr £2.29/TP £640TP BEG-DOH-KUL-PEN-KUL-DOH-BEG I / I / I / I / I / I Fare IJR2R1RE Bookable on QR.com
From North, Central and South America
10Jan £1.52/TP £668 440tp JFK-BOS/CLT-LAX-LAS-LAX-BOS/CLT-JFK I / I / I / I / I / I HPN-HRL AA (find with ITA; probably have to book via a TA)
12Apr £0.90/TP £215 240tp DCA-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I/I/I/I/I/I/I AA Found with ITA, booked on the AA site with BookWithMatrix
23Apr £ 0.76/TP £ 182 240TP DCA-PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Apr £ 1.04/TP £ 459 440TP YVR-LAX-CLT-ATL-CLT-LAX-YVR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
23May £ 0.70/TP £ 169 240TP EWR-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-DFW-EWR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Jun £ 0.52/TP £ 128 240TP LAX-DFW-PHX-SJC-PHX-DFW-LAX I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
04/01 £0.95/TP £479 560tp AUH-CMB-CGK-CMB-AUH I / I / I / I cgtechuk UL
1FEB £1.49/TP £1,673 1,120tp PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-BKK Return (All book in I Class) timcjp BA (Ticket sold by BA, flights are on QF, BA & JL and lie flat seats available for all sectors)
23/04 £2.07/TP £2,112 1020TP CAI-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-DFW-ORD-LHR-CAI I/R here (All flights must be BA numbered)
From Africa
04/01 £1.80/TP £721 400tp CPT-JNB-GRU-JNB-DUR-CPT I / Z / Z / I / I ubiest LA
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post 4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread (here), MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and return on Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Historic information
2018 Archive
2017 Archive
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
Jul 18, 2019, 3:27 am
#2206
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: London, UK
Programs: BAEC GGL/CCR; TK Elite; ITA Executive; Hilton Diamond; Marriott Bonvoy Platinum
Posts: 1,551
Just found the following on the Matrix:
ARN-HEL-LHR-JFK-PHX-SFO return in I class for 1,998£ which earns 880TPs (1,020TPs if using a GUF to upgrade to F on the BA operated transatlantic sector
).
Additional 80 TPs if positioning in CE, making a total of 1,100TPs.
Any thoughts?
ARN-HEL-LHR-JFK-PHX-SFO return in I class for 1,998£ which earns 880TPs (1,020TPs if using a GUF to upgrade to F on the BA operated transatlantic sector
).Additional 80 TPs if positioning in CE, making a total of 1,100TPs.
Any thoughts?
Jul 18, 2019, 3:51 am
#2207
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: BHX
Programs: BA GGL CCR GfL, SQ Gold, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond, Marriott Plat, Cafe Nero Loyalty Card (7 Stamps)
Posts: 7,331
Jul 18, 2019, 3:52 am
#2208
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: London, UK
Programs: BAEC GGL/CCR; TK Elite; ITA Executive; Hilton Diamond; Marriott Bonvoy Platinum
Posts: 1,551
Jul 18, 2019, 3:52 am
#2209
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: LON
Programs: Mucci, BAEC, Eurostar
Posts: 3,294
Just found the following on the Matrix:
ARN-HEL-LHR-JFK-PHX-SFO return in I class for 1,998£ which earns 880TPs (1,020TPs if using a GUF to upgrade to F on the BA operated transatlantic sector).
Additional 80 TPs if positioning in CE, making a total of 1,100TPs.
Any thoughts?
ARN-HEL-LHR-JFK-PHX-SFO return in I class for 1,998£ which earns 880TPs (1,020TPs if using a GUF to upgrade to F on the BA operated transatlantic sector
).Additional 80 TPs if positioning in CE, making a total of 1,100TPs.
Any thoughts?
Did you try LAX instead of PHX? Much better planes upfront.Other than that, what dates does this work for? I need to book a trip out to SFO next April, this would be perfect TP-wise and roughly the price I'd be willing to pay
Jul 18, 2019, 3:54 am
#2210
Ambassador, British Airways; FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
Posts: 42,991
for TA bookings earlier this year Changes to Avios / TP credit for Gold Upgrades via travel agents
i think for any bookings which you apply a GUF, whether TA or BA direct, you must now expect to only get the TPs for the underlying cabin and not the upgraded one.
i think for any bookings which you apply a GUF, whether TA or BA direct, you must now expect to only get the TPs for the underlying cabin and not the upgraded one.
Last edited by KARFA; Jul 18, 2019 at 3:59 am
Jul 18, 2019, 4:13 am
#2211
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: London, UK
Programs: BAEC GGL/CCR; TK Elite; ITA Executive; Hilton Diamond; Marriott Bonvoy Platinum
Posts: 1,551
Yes, I hope you're not doing the JFK-PHX overnight because you won't be able to sleep... Did you try LAX instead of PHX? Much better planes upfront.
Other than that, what dates does this work for? I need to book a trip out to SFO next April, this would be perfect TP-wise and roughly the price I'd be willing to pay
Did you try LAX instead of PHX? Much better planes upfront.Other than that, what dates does this work for? I need to book a trip out to SFO next April, this would be perfect TP-wise and roughly the price I'd be willing to pay
Plenty of availability August 2019 and some in September 2019.
Jul 18, 2019, 6:19 am
#2212
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: London. Or a plane.
Programs: "Only" 50,000 TPs until BA GGLfL
Posts: 2,779
for TA bookings earlier this year Changes to Avios / TP credit for Gold Upgrades via travel agents
i think for any bookings which you apply a GUF, whether TA or BA direct, you must now expect to only get the TPs for the underlying cabin and not the upgraded one.
i think for any bookings which you apply a GUF, whether TA or BA direct, you must now expect to only get the TPs for the underlying cabin and not the upgraded one.
Jul 18, 2019, 6:54 am
#2213
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: living near Malaga
Programs: BA Gold , Mucci recipient. Coffee Drinker, Blue Sky Thinker
Posts: 2,112
I have to agree its kinda brutal doing a B2B in OTP, then the early flight out of HEL the next day and onto LHR, JFK and PHX but was eminently doable as day flights.
We tried where possible to stay on European time(ish) for our 4 days and had a blast. We both rated our time there and enjoyed the experiance.
Ps .. Durants in Scottsdale is a must for Martinis and an excellent steak.
Jul 21, 2019, 12:59 am
#2214
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Sheffield, UK
Programs: BA Blue....
Posts: 5
My first ever tier point run!
Massive thanks to KARFA and everyone else who make this forum such a fantastic resource for newbies like myself
Just remains to sort out positioning flights, overnight hotels and what to do in San Francisco for a day in late November......
Jul 21, 2019, 1:59 am
#2215
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: DXB
Programs: BA GGL GFL, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Titanium, IHG Diamond Ambassador
Posts: 20
Currently a Sri Lankan sale on Biz Class, only through the website. '40% off'. srilankan.com
DXB-CGK for 2,555 AED (as opposed to around 3,200-3,400 usually). AUH-CGK is 2415 AED. Fare basis is IP9G3MAE (BIZ PROMO RESTRICT).
Seems to be fairly restricted...
Reservation Change fee Not Permitted
Cancellation/ Refund fee Non Refundable
FlySmiLes miles Awarded No
As it books into I class though I presume that Avios/TPs would be valid even though UL wouldn't award anything in their own FlySmiLes programme?
DXB-CGK for 2,555 AED (as opposed to around 3,200-3,400 usually). AUH-CGK is 2415 AED. Fare basis is IP9G3MAE (BIZ PROMO RESTRICT).
Seems to be fairly restricted...
Reservation Change fee Not Permitted
Cancellation/ Refund fee Non Refundable
FlySmiLes miles Awarded No
As it books into I class though I presume that Avios/TPs would be valid even though UL wouldn't award anything in their own FlySmiLes programme?
Last edited by iambic; Jul 21, 2019 at 2:00 am Reason: Added website
Jul 21, 2019, 3:16 am
#2216
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Germany
Programs: BA GGL, CCR - TK G
Posts: 809
Just found the following on the Matrix:
ARN-HEL-LHR-JFK-PHX-SFO return in I class for 1,998£ which earns 880TPs (1,020TPs if using a GUF to upgrade to F on the BA operated transatlantic sector).
Additional 80 TPs if positioning in CE, making a total of 1,100TPs.
Any thoughts?
ARN-HEL-LHR-JFK-PHX-SFO return in I class for 1,998£ which earns 880TPs (1,020TPs if using a GUF to upgrade to F on the BA operated transatlantic sector
).Additional 80 TPs if positioning in CE, making a total of 1,100TPs.
Any thoughts?
Jul 21, 2019, 3:31 am
#2217
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Vale of Glamorgan
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 2,992
Jul 21, 2019, 3:40 am
#2218
Moderator: Qatar Airways
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: LHR/NCE/MIA
Programs: BAEC GfL & GGL, SQ Gold, Amex Centurion, Mucci des Chevaliers des Bons Mots et Qui Savent Moucher
Posts: 8,950
Jul 21, 2019, 5:12 am
#2219
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Kent, UK
Programs: BA Gold; Virgin FF; United Airlines; American Airlines; and was frequent c/c churner - RIP!
Posts: 945
I am considering doing a return flight to SIN via DOH from ARN (excuse the abbreviations) with QR to to get 560 tier points in order to retain my BA Silver status (I already have 40 TPs plus have done the 4 BA flights). The cost of such flight is around £1400, plus positioning flights. Is there a more cost-effective way of achieving this?
Last edited by higham44; Jul 21, 2019 at 5:13 am Reason: incomplete text
Jul 21, 2019, 5:27 am
#2220
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: London
Programs: BAEC | qantas | IHG | Hilton Honors | Priority Pass | Nandos
Posts: 869
I am considering doing a return flight to SIN via DOH from ARN (excuse the abbreviations) with QR to to get 560 tier points in order to retain my BA Silver status (I already have 40 TPs plus have done the 4 BA flights). The cost of such flight is around £1400, plus positioning flights. Is there a more cost-effective way of achieving this?
If you are 'time rich', then you could consider the route in the posts just above this to get you to CGK on UL for a better price - and then get a cheap flight from there to SIN. The core of the trip, AUH-CGK, yields the same 560TP for less than half the QR cost to SIN.