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#106
Join Date: May 2013
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He may be a GGL. I doubt the Mail goes to that level of differentiation. The story is pretty clear.
#108
Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club, easyJet and Ryanair
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Quite. £30k doesn’t go very far on business travel, especially when seated at the front end of the aircraft. £30k sits about right at Gold. Of course TP runners can get many more TPs for their £, but TPs are not the motivation for the business traveller, TPs are the consequence of travel rather than the intent.
#109
Join Date: Oct 2015
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I appreciate what you are saying and can understand most routes LH are around the 5-6 TP per pound, not quite sure I would quite buy the majority are paying 10 TPs per pound on average though when flying J as oppose to F as he appears to be doing, particularly given most business travel is being more Frugal these days. If they are paying that then I hope it’s making business sense
#111
Join Date: Oct 2003
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There are two spikes of GGL and CCR members - the super heavy fliers, and the travel enthusiasts. Normal people don't act like FTers.
#113
Join Date: Jul 2011
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They don't get that many! Most business fares are £3-5k, and earn you 280 TPs (or best case 320 for longer routes). You can easily be spending twice what the Daily Mail guy was doing, going to 15 meetings a year, and still not making GGL.
There are two spikes of GGL and CCR members - the super heavy fliers, and the travel enthusiasts. Normal people don't act like FTers.
There are two spikes of GGL and CCR members - the super heavy fliers, and the travel enthusiasts. Normal people don't act like FTers.
#115
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#116
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In this case, the maths is pretty simple to spell out: the guy spent £4,000 on his return J ticket, not a particularly high figure for a long haul return J under business conditions (no Saturday night stay). so that is 280 TPs for £4,000. If that is par for the course for him, his £30k annual travel spend would net him just 2,100 TPs annually, well short of GGL renewal and less than half of what would be needed for GGL qualification in the first place.
#117
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standard practice in the industry appears to being followed by BA, i.e. upon finding the incident quarteened the chairand blocking it until the chair can be removed and treated.
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#118
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It's just like all the people on 2-4-1s who are now convinced that they will get downgraded on their next flight.
What would be genuinely interesting to know is whether BA actually experiences a higher incidence of bedbugs than other airlines. A higher incidence of media reporting is not the same thing.
#119
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: London, UK
Posts: 5,656
Welcome to FT!
It's just like all the people on 2-4-1s who are now convinced that they will get downgraded on their next flight.
What would be genuinely interesting to know is whether BA actually experiences a higher incidence of bedbugs than other airlines. A higher incidence of media reporting is not the same thing.
It's just like all the people on 2-4-1s who are now convinced that they will get downgraded on their next flight.
What would be genuinely interesting to know is whether BA actually experiences a higher incidence of bedbugs than other airlines. A higher incidence of media reporting is not the same thing.
I'm paying a lot of attention to the Lufthansa forums here and elsewhere now and I've not seen it.
With regards to downgrading on 2 for 1 vouchers, again, I haven't seen any reports of Lufthansa downgrading SEN's on their partner 50% off award (the closest analogy I can find), so they must be operating a different policy, or treatment in these cases.
Both of these events happen. They both appear to have more regularly than with other airlines as they are reported more often.
#120
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That is exactly the question, and exactly the question whose answer I'm interested in.
The one thing that is clear is that the fact that we hear about it more often does not answer the question as to why we hear about it more often. As this concerns media reporting, the possibility that it happens more often is only one of the possible answers to the question.
The one thing that is clear is that the fact that we hear about it more often does not answer the question as to why we hear about it more often. As this concerns media reporting, the possibility that it happens more often is only one of the possible answers to the question.