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Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2017 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
Advanced Promotion Fares
See here in post #9 for a 2018 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2017 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines
Please remember to:
Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.
From Europe
From North, Central and South America
23Sep £1.48/TP £650 (US$853) 440 TPs JFK-CLT/BOS-LAX-LAS and return all I class aa.com
6Sep £1.50/TP US$457 240TPs RIC-CLT-DCA-BOS, BOS-LGA/PHL-CLT-RIC all I class aa.com
Jan/Feb wide open £1.94/TP £700(US$883) 360 TPs SEA-CLT-MCO-PHX-SEA all I class aa.com
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
18Jan £1.58/TP £883 560 CMB-xHKG-CGK return I cathaypacific.com ermen CX
28Feb £1.44/TP £575 400 MCT-DOH-BKK-DOH-MCT A/R/R/A travel.americanexpress.co.uk QR
21Feb £1.53/TP £860 560 HKG-CMB-MEL return I Expedia.com.hk Firemin UL
16Mar £1.22/TP £687 560 CGK-CMB-DXB return I srilankan.com Firemin UL
01Apr £0.87/TP £314 360 PEN-KUL-KTM return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
01Apr £1.19/TP £335 280 KUL-PER return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
01Apr £1.28/TP £335 360 PEN-KUL-PER return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
05Apr £2.00/TP £320 160 CAN-HKG-TPE return CathayPacific.com littlevoices CX/KA (flexible fare, bookable up to 24 hours in advance, allows stopovers, book with CX directly)
From Africa
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post #4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread, MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Historic information
2017 Archive
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
- from JER to PDX IKN8T1S6 reported in this post, e.g. PDX £1,082, needs to be booked by 8 May, see linked post for details
Advanced Promotion Fares
- from OTP to PHX ILN8C8S4 reported here, e.g. PHX - £1,296, see linked post for details
- from AMS to BKK INCEU60 reported here, e.g. BKK - £1,340, see linked post for details
See here in post #9 for a 2018 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2017 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
- List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.
Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.
From Europe
Code:
3Feb 200TPs DUB-LHR-HEL/HEL-LHR all I class ba.com
23Sep £1.48/TP £650 (US$853) 440 TPs JFK-CLT/BOS-LAX-LAS and return all I class aa.com
6Sep £1.50/TP US$457 240TPs RIC-CLT-DCA-BOS, BOS-LGA/PHL-CLT-RIC all I class aa.com
Jan/Feb wide open £1.94/TP £700(US$883) 360 TPs SEA-CLT-MCO-PHX-SEA all I class aa.com
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
18Jan £1.58/TP £883 560 CMB-xHKG-CGK return I cathaypacific.com ermen CX
28Feb £1.44/TP £575 400 MCT-DOH-BKK-DOH-MCT A/R/R/A travel.americanexpress.co.uk QR
21Feb £1.53/TP £860 560 HKG-CMB-MEL return I Expedia.com.hk Firemin UL
16Mar £1.22/TP £687 560 CGK-CMB-DXB return I srilankan.com Firemin UL
01Apr £0.87/TP £314 360 PEN-KUL-KTM return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
01Apr £1.19/TP £335 280 KUL-PER return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
01Apr £1.28/TP £335 360 PEN-KUL-PER return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
05Apr £2.00/TP £320 160 CAN-HKG-TPE return CathayPacific.com littlevoices CX/KA (flexible fare, bookable up to 24 hours in advance, allows stopovers, book with CX directly)
From Africa
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post #4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread, MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Historic information
2017 Archive
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
BA Tier Point Runs | 2018 master thread
#3497
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 384
I highly recommend the Malaysia Airlines sale - ends today.
Nabbed DEL-KUL-SYD-PER return for US$1.36k which should land me between 720-840 TPs and between 18,000-22,000 Avios.
DEL-KUL is a 737 but one of two daily flights are 330s so you can do widebody flatbeds all the way.
KUL-SYD is a rare A350 flight. And MH isn’t selling F on this, so J passengers with OWE status can select F seats for free. I snagged 1A!
SYD-PER is said to be business but QF only offering Y seats (hence the vagueness of TP earnings). PER-SYD is in J on QF however.
Always avoid 2 stop that sells MEL or ADL as a stopover from KUL, they only earn 40 TPs onwards to and from PER. Select SYD or BNE if offered.
Nabbed DEL-KUL-SYD-PER return for US$1.36k which should land me between 720-840 TPs and between 18,000-22,000 Avios.
DEL-KUL is a 737 but one of two daily flights are 330s so you can do widebody flatbeds all the way.
KUL-SYD is a rare A350 flight. And MH isn’t selling F on this, so J passengers with OWE status can select F seats for free. I snagged 1A!
SYD-PER is said to be business but QF only offering Y seats (hence the vagueness of TP earnings). PER-SYD is in J on QF however.
Always avoid 2 stop that sells MEL or ADL as a stopover from KUL, they only earn 40 TPs onwards to and from PER. Select SYD or BNE if offered.
#3498
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: BCN
Programs: BA GGL, IB, LH, IHG Gold
Posts: 582
Good to see some flyers take advantage of this route!
This is a standard fare, available after the ex-BKK sale ends today (well, about 15 minutes ago
I ended up booking a different run BKK-NRT-BKK-TPE, as the DEL-SYD-PER was close to 1800 USD for my dates, and avoided having to position to DEL.
Very cool, good to know this about the A350
This is something to watch out for on the Australia domestic flights, sometimes the Y creeps in. Book on the A330 if you can, for the lie-flat seats, better than the 737.
This is a standard fare, available after the ex-BKK sale ends today (well, about 15 minutes ago
I ended up booking a different run BKK-NRT-BKK-TPE, as the DEL-SYD-PER was close to 1800 USD for my dates, and avoided having to position to DEL.
I highly recommend the Malaysia Airlines sale - ends today.
Nabbed DEL-KUL-SYD-PER return for US$1.36k which should land me between 720-840 TPs and between 18,000-22,000 Avios.
DEL-KUL is a 737 but one of two daily flights are 330s so you can do widebody flatbeds all the way.
KUL-SYD is a rare A350 flight. And MH isn’t selling F on this, so J passengers with OWE status can select F seats for free. I snagged 1A!
Nabbed DEL-KUL-SYD-PER return for US$1.36k which should land me between 720-840 TPs and between 18,000-22,000 Avios.
DEL-KUL is a 737 but one of two daily flights are 330s so you can do widebody flatbeds all the way.
KUL-SYD is a rare A350 flight. And MH isn’t selling F on this, so J passengers with OWE status can select F seats for free. I snagged 1A!
Very cool, good to know this about the A350
SYD-PER is said to be business but QF only offering Y seats (hence the vagueness of TP earnings). PER-SYD is in J on QF however.
Always avoid 2 stop that sells MEL or ADL as a stopover from KUL, they only earn 40 TPs onwards to and from PER. Select SYD or BNE if offered.
Always avoid 2 stop that sells MEL or ADL as a stopover from KUL, they only earn 40 TPs onwards to and from PER. Select SYD or BNE if offered.
#3499
Join Date: Jul 2015
Programs: BA Silver, Hilton Diamond, Accor Plat
Posts: 42
I have the same trip booked (with the 241 Swiss First from MAN to DEL) looking forward to trying the satay. It will make a pleasant change to arrive/depart PER at a sensible time of the day with the A330 on both legs!
#3500
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 384
Sadly the not all options were available and couldn’t get an A330 from DEL. Plus the return - if you want widebody all the way - isn’t ideal for those who don’t want to do overnight stops in SYD and added hotel costs.
As for SYD-PER, if you get a Y surprise, you get fully-flex Y and 70 TPs with a similar number of Avios - just 500 less than J at little more than 4,000 miles.
Swings and roundabouts.
If I booked earlier, the fare was available for US$1.1k. Even better for mileage earnings.
I know the MH 737 J seat all too well on TPE-KUL runs...and not in a favourable way.
As for SYD-PER, if you get a Y surprise, you get fully-flex Y and 70 TPs with a similar number of Avios - just 500 less than J at little more than 4,000 miles.
Swings and roundabouts.
If I booked earlier, the fare was available for US$1.1k. Even better for mileage earnings.
I know the MH 737 J seat all too well on TPE-KUL runs...and not in a favourable way.
Good to see some flyers take advantage of this route!
This is a standard fare, available after the ex-BKK sale ends today (well, about 15 minutes ago
I ended up booking a different run BKK-NRT-BKK-TPE, as the DEL-SYD-PER was close to 1800 USD for my dates, and avoided having to position to DEL.
Very cool, good to know this about the A350
This is something to watch out for on the Australia domestic flights, sometimes the Y creeps in. Book on the A330 if you can, for the lie-flat seats, better than the 737.
This is a standard fare, available after the ex-BKK sale ends today (well, about 15 minutes ago
I ended up booking a different run BKK-NRT-BKK-TPE, as the DEL-SYD-PER was close to 1800 USD for my dates, and avoided having to position to DEL.
Very cool, good to know this about the A350
This is something to watch out for on the Australia domestic flights, sometimes the Y creeps in. Book on the A330 if you can, for the lie-flat seats, better than the 737.
#3501
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: LAX
Programs: NW 1MM, BD Gold, BA Gold, AA 1MM, LM, VX eleVAte, Hyatt D6, SPG Plat, Hertz President's
Posts: 304
For those now contemplating an LAX-PTY run, I did mine last week, and wrote a Trip Report while on the Run.
It was exhausting, but everything ran smoothly, and I'd do it again - Live TR: LAX-PTY the very long way
M
It was exhausting, but everything ran smoothly, and I'd do it again - Live TR: LAX-PTY the very long way
M
#3502
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Beijing
Programs: SK EBG, BAEC Gold
Posts: 932
Was trying to match your routing just to MIA and back, but couldn't get any results on ITA. Phoned AA to have them book it, but they said they were limited to 6 segments maximum -- and even then, the routing was not considered valid. How did you book? Also, if I venture down to PTY, which hotel do you recommend?
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
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Fare Routing Search: Departing LAX on 09/01/19 for PTY Fare basis code GNN7ESI1 Flying AA Routing via Western Hemisphere ... TRANSFERS 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION ANY COMBINATION OF THE FOLLOWING - 2 ONLINE ON AA IN UNITED STATES IN EACH DIRECTION. FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
#3503
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: London
Programs: Hilton Diamond, Avis President's Club, BA GGL CCR, Amex Plat
Posts: 77
Was trying to match your routing just to MIA and back, but couldn't get any results on ITA. Phoned AA to have them book it, but they said they were limited to 6 segments maximum -- and even then, the routing was not considered valid. How did you book? Also, if I venture down to PTY, which hotel do you recommend?
all i can say is the pty run with 16 sectors is very shattering. I have no idea what day or time it is.
its good for the waist line tho as ive only had 3 full evening meals in the past 8 days.
i have to say careful of miami as my flight got cancelled due to weather and luck was on my side as the pty flight was delayed too my rebooked flight and a run to the gate in miami got me there just in time.
ive done my gym workout for the year.
was just gutted i missed the meet in phx when i checked into the hotel last night and asked how the weekend was the guy said it was crazy busy with people staying juat the one night. So sounds like it was a good meet.
#3504
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: VIE
Programs: QR Gold, HH Diamond, Melia Gold, Accor Silver, Amex Plat AT
Posts: 25
Just managed to book this for £901 on BA Holidays to include one night in PEN although the base fare is slightly lower
22Aug £1.31/TP £839 640 EDI-LON-DOH-PEN return I BA.com victairinternational
Managed to build in Q suites. Flights LHR-DOH are BA/QR operated, DOH-PEN is QR mainly A330 (787 until October)
Fare is BA RNWC86S5 EDI to PEN
22Aug £1.31/TP £839 640 EDI-LON-DOH-PEN return I BA.com victairinternational
Managed to build in Q suites. Flights LHR-DOH are BA/QR operated, DOH-PEN is QR mainly A330 (787 until October)
Fare is BA RNWC86S5 EDI to PEN
tried to replicate in matrix and on BA holidays - price ~ 3.500 GBP. Gone ?
#3506
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: VIE
Programs: QR Gold, HH Diamond, Melia Gold, Accor Silver, Amex Plat AT
Posts: 25
#3507
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: LAX
Programs: NW 1MM, BD Gold, BA Gold, AA 1MM, LM, VX eleVAte, Hyatt D6, SPG Plat, Hertz President's
Posts: 304
That's why I was trying to run LAX-MIA. Sadly, the shorter haul multi-hops on the West Coast are still the easier things to handle.
All ears if anyone has better ideas.
#3508
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: LON
Programs: BA GFL, OW Gold, CX/MP Diamond, SPG Plat
Posts: 258
#3509
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: BHX
Programs: BA GGL CCR GfL, SQ Gold, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond, Marriott Plat, Cafe Nero Loyalty Card (7 Stamps)
Posts: 7,328
#3510
Join Date: Apr 2017
Programs: British Airways | Executive Club silver
Posts: 104
i am trying to find out how many tps i will get for a future trip next year
but ba.com site dont show what class the flights are when i do a search
edi -lhr-sea outbound
ord-lhr-edi inbound
gives me a price but dont show class just euro traveller and world traveller
but ba.com site dont show what class the flights are when i do a search
edi -lhr-sea outbound
ord-lhr-edi inbound
gives me a price but dont show class just euro traveller and world traveller