Jan 1, 2018, 5:20 am
Last edit by: OWBA
Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2017 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
Advanced Promotion Fares
See here in post #9 for a 2018 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2017 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines
Please remember to:
Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.
From Europe
From North, Central and South America
23Sep £1.48/TP £650 (US$853) 440 TPs JFK-CLT/BOS-LAX-LAS and return all I class aa.com
6Sep £1.50/TP US$457 240TPs RIC-CLT-DCA-BOS, BOS-LGA/PHL-CLT-RIC all I class aa.com
Jan/Feb wide open £1.94/TP £700(US$883) 360 TPs SEA-CLT-MCO-PHX-SEA all I class aa.com
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
18Jan £1.58/TP £883 560 CMB-xHKG-CGK return I cathaypacific.com ermen CX
28Feb £1.44/TP £575 400 MCT-DOH-BKK-DOH-MCT A/R/R/A travel.americanexpress.co.uk QR
21Feb £1.53/TP £860 560 HKG-CMB-MEL return I Expedia.com.hk Firemin UL
16Mar £1.22/TP £687 560 CGK-CMB-DXB return I srilankan.com Firemin UL
01Apr £0.87/TP £314 360 PEN-KUL-KTM return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
01Apr £1.19/TP £335 280 KUL-PER return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
01Apr £1.28/TP £335 360 PEN-KUL-PER return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
05Apr £2.00/TP £320 160 CAN-HKG-TPE return CathayPacific.com littlevoices CX/KA (flexible fare, bookable up to 24 hours in advance, allows stopovers, book with CX directly)
From Africa
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post #4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread, MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Historic information
2017 Archive
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
- from JER to PDX IKN8T1S6 reported in this post, e.g. PDX £1,082, needs to be booked by 8 May, see linked post for details
Advanced Promotion Fares
- from OTP to PHX ILN8C8S4 reported here, e.g. PHX - £1,296, see linked post for details
- from AMS to BKK INCEU60 reported here, e.g. BKK - £1,340, see linked post for details
See here in post #9 for a 2018 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2017 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
- List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.
Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.
From Europe
Code:
3Feb 200TPs DUB-LHR-HEL/HEL-LHR all I class ba.com
23Sep £1.48/TP £650 (US$853) 440 TPs JFK-CLT/BOS-LAX-LAS and return all I class aa.com
6Sep £1.50/TP US$457 240TPs RIC-CLT-DCA-BOS, BOS-LGA/PHL-CLT-RIC all I class aa.com
Jan/Feb wide open £1.94/TP £700(US$883) 360 TPs SEA-CLT-MCO-PHX-SEA all I class aa.com
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
18Jan £1.58/TP £883 560 CMB-xHKG-CGK return I cathaypacific.com ermen CX
28Feb £1.44/TP £575 400 MCT-DOH-BKK-DOH-MCT A/R/R/A travel.americanexpress.co.uk QR
21Feb £1.53/TP £860 560 HKG-CMB-MEL return I Expedia.com.hk Firemin UL
16Mar £1.22/TP £687 560 CGK-CMB-DXB return I srilankan.com Firemin UL
01Apr £0.87/TP £314 360 PEN-KUL-KTM return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
01Apr £1.19/TP £335 280 KUL-PER return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
01Apr £1.28/TP £335 360 PEN-KUL-PER return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
05Apr £2.00/TP £320 160 CAN-HKG-TPE return CathayPacific.com littlevoices CX/KA (flexible fare, bookable up to 24 hours in advance, allows stopovers, book with CX directly)
From Africa
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post #4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread, MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Historic information
2017 Archive
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
BA Tier Point Runs | 2018 master thread
Aug 16, 2018, 5:59 pm
#3346
Join Date: Aug 2018
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Even if I had booked back to back, I don’t see how the point made is true: the flight to BOS originated in Amsterdam. My one way trip to AMS would be a separate ticket regardless, would it not? Even if the outbound had been cancelled, the new flight wouldn’t be cancelled.
City to Rotterdam the next morning at 7.45 was no good because I’d have missed my flight from AMS to LHR at 7.45.
City to Rotterdam the next morning at 7.45 was no good because I’d have missed my flight from AMS to LHR at 7.45.
Aug 16, 2018, 6:15 pm
#3347
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Even if I had booked back to back, I don’t see how the point made is true: the flight to BOS originated in Amsterdam. My one way trip to AMS would be a separate ticket regardless, would it not? Even if the outbound had been cancelled, the new flight wouldn’t be cancelled.
If you don't do a b2b you end up in the situation you found yourself in where your LHR-AMS and AMS-LHR were unlrelated so delay or cancellation of the former doesn't mean delay or cancellation of the later,
Aug 16, 2018, 6:59 pm
#3348
Join Date: Aug 2018
Programs: British Airways Gold
Posts: 3
Having spent an hour on the phone with BA I just don’t think what you say is true. Even if they had been back to back they were two separate tickets and it makes no difference. They could not have been more helpful on the phone but they were very clear that the fare rules meant the ticket had to originate in Amsterdam and if I did not present there to take the flight, regardless of the reason, the ticket would automatically cancel. I don’t work for BA I am simply reporting for others benefit what I found out. Based on that I do not believe it would have made any difference if I had flown the same day. It would have had to be a different ticket.
Aug 16, 2018, 9:14 pm
#3349
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA GGL
Posts: 1,578
What KARFA and nuffnuff77 are saying is that if you had b2bed, the cancelled aircraft for LHR-AMS would not physically be in AMS for your first exEU leg AMS-LHR, which would then logically also be cancelled. With both tickets now affected by cancellation, both would be flexible to changes.
Aug 16, 2018, 9:25 pm
#3350
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: SIN
Posts: 196
Two tickets, but one plane is the saving motto I think. The idea is that Ticket 1 from LHR to AMS flies on plane 1. Ticket 2 from AMS back to LHR (and then onwards elsewhere) is also scheduled on plane 1.
If Ticket 1 is cancelled because plane 1 is cancelled, then plane 1 does not fly to AMS. THEREFORE, Ticket 2 must also be rescheduled because there is no physical plane at AMS to fly to LHR. Plane 1 never made it to AMS so cannot depart from AMS, so your entire Ticket 2 itinerary is disrupted.
Hence, the perverse rule that a b2b saves your ENTIRE itinerary.
If Ticket 1 is cancelled because plane 1 is cancelled, then plane 1 does not fly to AMS. THEREFORE, Ticket 2 must also be rescheduled because there is no physical plane at AMS to fly to LHR. Plane 1 never made it to AMS so cannot depart from AMS, so your entire Ticket 2 itinerary is disrupted.
Hence, the perverse rule that a b2b saves your ENTIRE itinerary.
Aug 16, 2018, 11:38 pm
#3351
Join Date: Feb 2014
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Two tickets, but one plane is the saving motto I think. The idea is that Ticket 1 from LHR to AMS flies on plane 1. Ticket 2 from AMS back to LHR (and then onwards elsewhere) is also scheduled on plane 1.
If Ticket 1 is cancelled because plane 1 is cancelled, then plane 1 does not fly to AMS. THEREFORE, Ticket 2 must also be rescheduled because there is no physical plane at AMS to fly to LHR. Plane 1 never made it to AMS so cannot depart from AMS, so your entire Ticket 2 itinerary is disrupted.
Hence, the perverse rule that a b2b saves your ENTIRE itinerary.
If Ticket 1 is cancelled because plane 1 is cancelled, then plane 1 does not fly to AMS. THEREFORE, Ticket 2 must also be rescheduled because there is no physical plane at AMS to fly to LHR. Plane 1 never made it to AMS so cannot depart from AMS, so your entire Ticket 2 itinerary is disrupted.
Hence, the perverse rule that a b2b saves your ENTIRE itinerary.
Aug 17, 2018, 12:44 am
#3353
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Aug 17, 2018, 12:59 am
#3354
Join Date: May 2014
Location: BRU
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When was the AMS service cancelled?
I'm not experienced as the others, but I would have thought that a scheduled departure from LHR of 6PM the day before could leave enough time to find alternatives, from flying to CDG/BRU/DUS even on other airlines, or use the eurostar, and then going with a rental car or a taxi to AMS in time for the morning departure. I think would have been cheaper anyway than a lost trip and a new ticket.
I'm not experienced as the others, but I would have thought that a scheduled departure from LHR of 6PM the day before could leave enough time to find alternatives, from flying to CDG/BRU/DUS even on other airlines, or use the eurostar, and then going with a rental car or a taxi to AMS in time for the morning departure. I think would have been cheaper anyway than a lost trip and a new ticket.
Aug 17, 2018, 1:55 am
#3355
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I think that key issue here. As referenced by KARFA is that the phone agents have less cope than those at the airport. I think the OP may well have received a more favourable response at the airport.
Aug 17, 2018, 3:19 am
#3356
Join Date: Aug 2015
Programs: BA Gold/ Star Alliance Gold
Posts: 401
I can confirm good-will handling with a B2B ticket from an experience last year. We were in the LHR lounge waiting for our LHR-INV with a B2B connection INV-LHR-HEL... LHR-INV was delayed and so was INV-LHR with no chance to catch the LHR-HEL. The agent in the gold lounge changed our tickets and we were allowed to start our journey from LHR without the need to fly the INV route. Hope this helps.
Aug 17, 2018, 4:20 am
#3357
Join Date: Mar 2012
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I've been allowed to start ex-LHR quite a few times over the years for various reasons; cancellations, route suspension, etc. Does happen, but of course you can't bank on it.
In OP's scenario, assuming there's no chance of booking a last minute flight on another airline (surely KLM or someone had a seat that evening?), I'd have made a run for the Eurostar I think. Same day one way tickets to AMS are generally £200.
In OP's scenario, assuming there's no chance of booking a last minute flight on another airline (surely KLM or someone had a seat that evening?), I'd have made a run for the Eurostar I think. Same day one way tickets to AMS are generally £200.
Aug 17, 2018, 5:56 am
#3358
Join Date: Nov 2017
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Posts: 75
Hi folks, I’m only after 20TPs. Any super cheap suggestions for a day return.....?
Aug 17, 2018, 6:44 am
#3359
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Aug 17, 2018, 6:45 am
#3360
Join Date: Apr 2016
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Hi all!
Does anyone know if there have been any changes in the TP earned in PE short haul, at least in Cathay Pacific?
I'm flying CX (BCN-)HKG-KIX /// NRT-HKG(-MAD) in PE. According to the BA TP table in OP I should collect 100 TP for each intercontinental sector and 30 TPs for each regional sector, but according to the BA Avios and TP calculator I'll only earn 25 TP per regional sector. Which should I trust, the table or the calculator?
Thanks!
Does anyone know if there have been any changes in the TP earned in PE short haul, at least in Cathay Pacific?
I'm flying CX (BCN-)HKG-KIX /// NRT-HKG(-MAD) in PE. According to the BA TP table in OP I should collect 100 TP for each intercontinental sector and 30 TPs for each regional sector, but according to the BA Avios and TP calculator I'll only earn 25 TP per regional sector. Which should I trust, the table or the calculator?
Thanks!