BA American Express 2-4-1 Voucher Discussion
#1876
Join Date: Apr 2017
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 1,387
nor use a 241 even if reward seats available.
#1877
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Gold, Accor Live Limitless Gold, Hilton Honours Gold, Avis Preferred Plus
Posts: 1,807
I am sure BA would happily take a very large chunk of Avios regardless of whether there is any reward availability, through the new AUP Avios pricing, but it would almost certainly not be a sensible use of Avios.
#1878
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Essex, UK
Programs: BA Executive Club, AZ, VS, AA, UA
Posts: 602
Question, related to this as I will be in the same position in a few months (booked in J, want to travel in F, 241, with enough Avios): I know I can change my booking at any time with a £35pp fee. When does this stop being the case - is it T-24?
#1879
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: UK
Programs: BA Gold, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 804
The closest I have done was 5 days before travel when the redemption seats became available since I kept checking if F seats came up. I assume it must be T-24 when online check in opens but not 100% sure.
#1880
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 33
I have a 241 booked EDI-LHR-EWR-LHR-EDI.
I now need to be in London the few days before the domestic connection.
I can do it if I have to but ideally I don’t want to go back to EDI before the flight to EWR (apart from the unnecessary journey, timing would be tight ish and it’s Dec so at risk of weather).
Can I change the domestic connection so it’s a few days earlier ie so would be a stopover rather than connection? Would the whole itinerary need to be reticketed ?
Alternatively can I cancel the connection and just start the 241 in LHR (and book and entirely separate flight to LHR for a few days earlier)? I do need the return connection, however.
thanks for help.
I now need to be in London the few days before the domestic connection.
I can do it if I have to but ideally I don’t want to go back to EDI before the flight to EWR (apart from the unnecessary journey, timing would be tight ish and it’s Dec so at risk of weather).
Can I change the domestic connection so it’s a few days earlier ie so would be a stopover rather than connection? Would the whole itinerary need to be reticketed ?
Alternatively can I cancel the connection and just start the 241 in LHR (and book and entirely separate flight to LHR for a few days earlier)? I do need the return connection, however.
thanks for help.
#1881
Ambassador, British Airways; FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
Posts: 42,970
Alternatively can I cancel the connection and just start the 241 in LHR (and book and entirely separate flight to LHR for a few days earlier)? I do need the return connection,
#1882
Join Date: May 2006
Location: London
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold, GGL, SPG Gold , HHonors Diamond ,Marriott Gold Elite
Posts: 567
Can I use a BA Amex voucher issued in the UK for a one way inbound sector say SFO to LHR? or must the one-way be UK to destination
#1883
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Essex, UK
Programs: BA Executive Club, AZ, VS, AA, UA
Posts: 602
#1884
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 33
Yes you can change it if there is reward availability for the date you want to change to. Cost will be £35 per person change fee and possibly some extra few pounds of fees/taxes. However, both passengers on the booking need to change as both need to be on exactly teh same itinerary.
yes that would be fine to do as well and just cancel the EDI-LHR sector for both passengers.
yes that would be fine to do as well and just cancel the EDI-LHR sector for both passengers.
There is reward availability that would work for when we actually want to travel. What is better value - changing the connection as part of the 241 for £35pp so £70 in total or cancelling entirely and booking a separate new flight Avios flight - cost is 25500 avios and £1. Guessing 25500 avios is likely to be worth more than £70? I do have a lot of surplus avios though..
Many thanks
#1885
Join Date: Apr 2017
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 1,387
Thanks for the response.
There is reward availability that would work for when we actually want to travel. What is better value - changing the connection as part of the 241 for £35pp so £70 in total or cancelling entirely and booking a separate new flight Avios flight - cost is 25500 avios and £1. Guessing 25500 avios is likely to be worth more than £70? I do have a lot of surplus avios though..
Many thanks
There is reward availability that would work for when we actually want to travel. What is better value - changing the connection as part of the 241 for £35pp so £70 in total or cancelling entirely and booking a separate new flight Avios flight - cost is 25500 avios and £1. Guessing 25500 avios is likely to be worth more than £70? I do have a lot of surplus avios though..
Many thanks
#1886
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: UK
Programs: BA Silver (temp demotion), *A Silver, HH Gold, IHG Diamond
Posts: 493
Thanks as ever to everyone for the invaluable advice on here. Just wanted to report back on what I think was a successful 2-4-1 booking and to ask one small question (which may be obvious to some).
Booked an Open Jaw to Osaka (KIX) and back from Beijing (PKX) in April (with many many digits crossed for a cold winter and the cherry blossom still out). Amazingly we managed to get 4 reward seats as the plan is to take Mrs ST's parents with us. We just made the 10% discount so the fee per pair was £1100 plus 137,500 avios. Without this forum, I would not have have thought about flying back from China (and being able to use TMOV, so no visa needed!).
[Separately, we've booked JAL HND-PEK via Avios, which do seem reasonable value: a 4 hour flight for 22k avios plus £50; the cash price for a one-way was a staggering £1000 per person]
Anyway, the message to readers of this is be patient over the phone (only way to get an OJ booking) and be prepared For example, need to have loaded up your travelling companions into Friends and Family/ HHA]..And if you have two companion vouchers for two separate people, BOTH have to be present during the call and very oddly I was told that both tickets needed Amex cards in their own name. I queried this and was told that it is a phone only issue. My call took over 30 minutes to process but in the end it was worth it.
Genuinely surprised that the ONLY reward flight for over two months to Japan had four seats available. So my question is whether there are more available seats for Goldies? I noticed that on my receipt that there was a Gold upgrade voucher applied.
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Redemption Type Companion e-voucher
Card Type AMEX CREDIT
Card Holder XXXX
Card Number***********1000
Billing Address XXX
Avios points debited 137250
Voucher Type: Gold Upgrade Voucher
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Booked an Open Jaw to Osaka (KIX) and back from Beijing (PKX) in April (with many many digits crossed for a cold winter and the cherry blossom still out). Amazingly we managed to get 4 reward seats as the plan is to take Mrs ST's parents with us. We just made the 10% discount so the fee per pair was £1100 plus 137,500 avios. Without this forum, I would not have have thought about flying back from China (and being able to use TMOV, so no visa needed!).
[Separately, we've booked JAL HND-PEK via Avios, which do seem reasonable value: a 4 hour flight for 22k avios plus £50; the cash price for a one-way was a staggering £1000 per person]
Anyway, the message to readers of this is be patient over the phone (only way to get an OJ booking) and be prepared For example, need to have loaded up your travelling companions into Friends and Family/ HHA]..And if you have two companion vouchers for two separate people, BOTH have to be present during the call and very oddly I was told that both tickets needed Amex cards in their own name. I queried this and was told that it is a phone only issue. My call took over 30 minutes to process but in the end it was worth it.
Genuinely surprised that the ONLY reward flight for over two months to Japan had four seats available. So my question is whether there are more available seats for Goldies? I noticed that on my receipt that there was a Gold upgrade voucher applied.
>>
Redemption Type Companion e-voucher
Card Type AMEX CREDIT
Card Holder XXXX
Card Number***********1000
Billing Address XXX
Avios points debited 137250
Voucher Type: Gold Upgrade Voucher
<<
#1887
Join Date: Apr 2017
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 1,387
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I noticed that on my receipt that there was a Gold upgrade voucher applied.
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Redemption Type Companion e-voucher
Card Type AMEX CREDIT
Card Holder XXXX
Card Number***********1000
Billing Address XXX
Avios points debited 137250
Voucher Type: Gold Upgrade Voucher
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I noticed that on my receipt that there was a Gold upgrade voucher applied.
>>
Redemption Type Companion e-voucher
Card Type AMEX CREDIT
Card Holder XXXX
Card Number***********1000
Billing Address XXX
Avios points debited 137250
Voucher Type: Gold Upgrade Voucher
<<
#1888
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 72
If you upgrade the BA Amex to the Premium card, does it run an additional credit check? I'm wanting to upgrade as I'm above the £10k for the companion voucher on the premium, but doubt I'll hit the £20k. I've had some searches recently however and don't want to ding my credit, so unsure of whether or not to wait/
#1889
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Tenerife
Programs: BA Gold, BA AMEX PP, Amex Platinum
Posts: 434
If you upgrade the BA Amex to the Premium card, does it run an additional credit check? I'm wanting to upgrade as I'm above the £10k for the companion voucher on the premium, but doubt I'll hit the £20k. I've had some searches recently however and don't want to ding my credit, so unsure of whether or not to wait/
#1890
Suspended
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 9
Thanks as ever to everyone for the invaluable advice on here. Just wanted to report back on what I think was a successful 2-4-1 booking and to ask one small question (which may be obvious to some).
Booked an Open Jaw to Osaka (KIX) and back from Beijing (PKX) in April (with many many digits crossed for a cold winter and the cherry blossom still out). Amazingly we managed to get 4 reward seats as the plan is to take Mrs ST's parents with us. We just made the 10% discount so the fee per pair was £1100 plus 137,500 avios. Without this forum, I would not have have thought about flying back from China (and being able to use TMOV, so no visa needed!).
[Separately, we've booked JAL HND-PEK via Avios, which do seem reasonable value: a 4 hour flight for 22k avios plus £50; the cash price for a one-way was a staggering £1000 per person]
Anyway, the message to readers of this is be patient over the phone (only way to get an OJ booking) and be prepared For example, need to have loaded up your travelling companions into Friends and Family/ HHA]..And if you have two companion vouchers for two separate people, BOTH have to be present during the call and very oddly I was told that both tickets needed Amex cards in their own name. I queried this and was told that it is a phone only issue. My call took over 30 minutes to process but in the end it was worth it.
Genuinely surprised that the ONLY reward flight for over two months to Japan had four seats available. So my question is whether there are more available seats for Goldies? I noticed that on my receipt that there was a Gold upgrade voucher applied.
>>
Redemption Type Companion e-voucher
Card Type AMEX CREDIT
Card Holder XXXX
Card Number***********1000
Billing Address XXX
Avios points debited 137250
Voucher Type: Gold Upgrade Voucher
<<
Booked an Open Jaw to Osaka (KIX) and back from Beijing (PKX) in April (with many many digits crossed for a cold winter and the cherry blossom still out). Amazingly we managed to get 4 reward seats as the plan is to take Mrs ST's parents with us. We just made the 10% discount so the fee per pair was £1100 plus 137,500 avios. Without this forum, I would not have have thought about flying back from China (and being able to use TMOV, so no visa needed!).
[Separately, we've booked JAL HND-PEK via Avios, which do seem reasonable value: a 4 hour flight for 22k avios plus £50; the cash price for a one-way was a staggering £1000 per person]
Anyway, the message to readers of this is be patient over the phone (only way to get an OJ booking) and be prepared For example, need to have loaded up your travelling companions into Friends and Family/ HHA]..And if you have two companion vouchers for two separate people, BOTH have to be present during the call and very oddly I was told that both tickets needed Amex cards in their own name. I queried this and was told that it is a phone only issue. My call took over 30 minutes to process but in the end it was worth it.
Genuinely surprised that the ONLY reward flight for over two months to Japan had four seats available. So my question is whether there are more available seats for Goldies? I noticed that on my receipt that there was a Gold upgrade voucher applied.
>>
Redemption Type Companion e-voucher
Card Type AMEX CREDIT
Card Holder XXXX
Card Number***********1000
Billing Address XXX
Avios points debited 137250
Voucher Type: Gold Upgrade Voucher
<<