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** AA Domestic First on two cabin will earn business TPs and avios for departures on or after 11 January 2017 - see reference posts for more details **

** Note that the practice of AA Domestic 3-class service flights booking into A for 210 TPs when I was no longer available ceased in September 2017. Discussion here. **

Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2016 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.

This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below!

Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
  • from AMS/RTM to US ILN4T7S6/INX6T7S6 reported in this post and this post, e.g. NYC - €1,461, ORD - €1,492, LAS - €1,460, needs to be booked by 25 September, see linked post for details
  • from PRG to US ILN4T8S6 reported in this post, e.g. IAD - £1,033, MIA - £1,133, ATL - £1,080, needs to be booked by 21 September, see linked post for details

Advanced Promotion Fares
  • from DUB to US ILN8C1S6 reported here, e.g. NYC - €1,472, MIA - €1,578, see linked post for details
  • froM DUB to US ILN8S4C1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,427, MIA - €1,532, LAS - €1,667, LAX - €1,795, HNL - €2,095, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, see linked post for details
  • from OTP to PHX ILN8R4C1 reported here, e.g. PHX - £1,252, see linked post for details
  • from AMS to BKK INCEU60 reported here, e.g. BKK - £1,216, see linked post for details

See here in post # 8 for a 2017 archive of exEU sale fare, and see here in post # 445 for a 2016 archive of exEU sale fares.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.

From Europe

24APR £0.90/TP £400 440 TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-KOI-ABZ ; TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-SDZ-ABZ (see post #1221)
02NOV £1.33/TP £583 440 LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR-NCL//NCL-LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR IIIIIIIIII Google Flights armouredant 2 nested tickets, both other a Saturday night. BA ticket, BA & AY metal, AY A350 possible LHR-HEL
08FEB £1.33/TP £346 260 JER-LGW-RAK-LGW-RAK I/I/I/I BA.com ramops
14AUG £1.65/TP £593 360 OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL I-I-I-I ITA Flythe96flag SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) AY
26JUL £1.81/TP £72.70 40 MAD-FRA Z lan.com Prospero 787 flat bed LA
1JAN £1.85/TP £444 240 JER-LGW/LHR-HEL J/I/I/J ITA Matrix flatlander Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
23NOV £1.89/TP £377 200 DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t I-I-I-I-I-I ITA Lorcancoyle IM0B IB DUB to SVQ BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
24NOV £1.91/TP £765.00 400 BUD-DOH-SHJ I/A/I/A QR.com Wozza2404 A320 QR
11AUG £2.10/TP £420 200 AMS-LHR-GLA-LSI-ABZ-LSI-GLA-LHR-AMS I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix --> Priceline.com MrMutton
13NOV £2.56/TP £410 160 LHR-HEL ? BA.com Lorcancoyle wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back BA

From North, Central and South America
26Jan £1.50/TP £960 640 LGA-CMH-DCA-PHL-RDU-CLT-ATL-MIA-PTY and return I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix--> BookWithMatrix dot com --> AA.com HPN-HRL other routings available; reverse routing is £40 more - see post 388 AA
10MAY £2.50/TP £203 80 ORF-CLT-ORD I/I AA.com
21MAY £2.08/TP £250 120 YYZ-PHL/LGA-CLT-ORF/PHF I/I/I AA.com
22NOV £1.43/TP £172 120 DCA-(LGA/BOS/PHL)-CLT-RDU (one way, reverse works as well) I/I/I ITA->BWM->priceline.com

From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
23Feb £0.99/TP £356 360 TPE-xKUL-PEN(JHB)-xKUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com ermen two day min stay, promo fare MH
04JAN £1.10/TP £44 40 KUL-PEN D http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/uk/en.html fitch Works in both directions, rtn £80 if you can make the timnings work MH
11Nov £0.85/TP £307 360 TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com neofung

From Africa


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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. The guide to using ITA matrix in post #4 (see here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seems the most cost effective for this.

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520. Also the BA fare for LHR-HEL-TLL at ~£235 is still available and would get 200 TPs for a return.

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2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
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Old Nov 30, 2017, 3:36 am
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Originally Posted by combat_wombat
Thanks! Looks good. Will have a play with the dates - heard good things about sri lankan as well
For an extra £200 on that you can go WT+ to DOH, and I think an extra 100 TP. I didn't work out the full TP for the run because there are enough to get to 600, but it doesn't seem a bad yield as a TP run and I might do it myself at some point next year.
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Old Nov 30, 2017, 3:40 am
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Originally Posted by msm2000uk
I heard from friends you can pick up a room at Circus Circus for $39 per night.
Please dont even think about staying at Circus Circus ... Its a compete dump much like the Stratosphere...

I beg you NEVER stay there...
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Old Nov 30, 2017, 3:43 am
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Originally Posted by msm2000uk
I've got 4 domestic legs with AA in December - let the fun and games begin.

Ryanair had similar Pilot issues, and it barely had an effect on their schedules, so what's the worst that go wrong

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I've just read on Bloomberg that the impacts are from 17th December to the end of the year, which greatly reduces (my personal) disruption - I originally thought it was all of December:

Originally Posted by Bloomberg
The Allied Pilots Association estimated the number of affected flights, from Dec. 17 to Dec. 31, based on information provided by the carrier, said Dennis Tajer, a spokesman for the union. American spokesman Matt Miller declined to quantify the potential number of flights involved, saying the airline expects to correct the problem in time to prevent service disruptions.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...hts-on-it-flaw
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Old Nov 30, 2017, 3:54 am
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Originally Posted by sunshinebob
Please dont even think about staying at Circus Circus ... Its a compete dump much like the Stratosphere...

I beg you NEVER stay there...
I only stay at the Bellagio dahling - but there were two Australians I was talking to, who told me the cheap prices they were paying. I was gobsmacked!

Originally Posted by rossmacd
I've just read on Bloomberg that the impacts are from 17th December to the end of the year, which greatly reduces (my personal) disruption - I originally thought it was all of December.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...hts-on-it-flaw
I spotted that earlier on the AA thread - my flights are on 17th and 19th, so all 4 during the proposed action.

Can't wait

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Old Nov 30, 2017, 4:13 am
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I stay at the Downtown Grand in Vegas. The Strip just feels too sterile. It's not really Vegas if you're not encountering a bloke dressed as Elvis having a full on argument with himself at 9am on Fremont Street.
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Old Nov 30, 2017, 5:00 am
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Originally Posted by msm2000uk
OT, but having just returned from Vegas, I heard from friends you can pick up a room at Circus Circus (and also Hard Rock) for $39 per night.
If those are cheap then Flamingo and Harrahs are usually not much more expensive and a hundred times better located.
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Old Nov 30, 2017, 5:08 am
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Originally Posted by Wozza2404
I stay at the Downtown Grand in Vegas. The Strip just feels too sterile. It's not really Vegas if you're not encountering a bloke dressed as Elvis having a full on argument with himself at 9am on Fremont Street.
Just by way of example, on Sunday evening at 1030pm, outside the D, there was:

1) Elvis on stage singing
2) A lady in a wheelchair, totally naked
3) Two people dressed as adult babies, swearing at people
4) A magician with doves that could poo on cue
5) A number of scantily clad women stood in various poses
6) A set of Power-Rangers
7) IronMan having a fight with Thor
8) A small rock band gigging

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Old Nov 30, 2017, 8:52 am
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Originally Posted by bisonrav
OK, how about getting yourself to Doha in economy for £316 - assuming you get out at LHR on the end leg rather than going back to Amsterdam, that gives you 3 BA flights, which will be 4 if you use BA to position to AMS. [EDIT] This itinerary is set up so the last ->AMS flight is from Gatwick which means if you have luggage you can pick it up at LHR and skip the last leg.

https://www.google.co.uk/flights/#se...762;a=ONEWORLD

Then this will give you 560TP for £744:

https://www.google.co.uk/flights/#search;f=DOH;t=HKG;d=2018-01-25;r=2018-01-27;sel=DOHCMB0UL220-CMBHKG1UL898;sc=b;a=ONEWORLD

So silver for just over a grand in one trip without too brutal an itinerary, inside your dates.
Thank you for this. Looking forward to a couple of days in Sri Lanka and a week in Hong Kong.
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Old Nov 30, 2017, 9:11 am
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Originally Posted by msm2000uk
Just by way of example, on Sunday evening at 1030pm, outside the D, there was:

1) Elvis on stage singing
2) A lady in a wheelchair, totally naked
3) Two people dressed as adult babies, swearing at people
4) A magician with doves that could poo on cue
5) A number of scantily clad women stood in various poses
6) A set of Power-Rangers
7) IronMan having a fight with Thor
8) A small rock band gigging

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I was going to bring up the prospect of seeing Elmo fight Darth Vadar as a highlight of the strip, but that is more a Time Square New York thing...
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Old Nov 30, 2017, 11:21 am
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AA have posted a statement on their website regarding the pilots scheduling issue, clearly trying to play down the risk of disruption:

Originally Posted by AA.com
Out of the 200,000 flights American will operate in December, only a few hundred are currently unassigned to pilots. That number of open flights continues to decrease thanks to our pilots who are stepping up to the plate and picking up trips to ensure customers are taken care of. It’s another example of why we are thankful to have such an incredible team. In addition, we have more reserve pilots on hand in December than normal months and they provide us with the ability to fly many of the trips that are currently uncovered. We have not canceled any scheduled flights in December and will continue to work to ensure both our pilots and our customers are cared for.
http://news.aa.com/press-releases/pr...&locale=en_US#
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Old Nov 30, 2017, 1:02 pm
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Fancy a trip to Iceland?

LCY-KEF return at minimum £332 I class, which yields 160TPs (£2.075/TP)
Good availability in Jan
with double avios promotion you will pocket extra 2945 avios for this trip. (only if you travel in DEC)

https://goo.gl/flights/srtN
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Old Nov 30, 2017, 1:22 pm
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Originally Posted by dougzz
Just in case you were unaware. Seems that AA have muddled pilot scheduling - Thousands of December AA flights scheduled without pilots? for December. May be relevant to others that have AA TP runs.
Thanks for that.
I have another 4 with AA so a total of 14 AA flights from 20 Dec-26 Dec, i HOPE non are cancelled cuz if 1 gets cancelled the rest of the trip needs rescheduling.......
fingers crossed!!
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Old Nov 30, 2017, 2:01 pm
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Originally Posted by msm2000uk
Just by way of example, on Sunday evening at 1030pm, outside the D, there was:

1) Elvis on stage singing
2) A lady in a wheelchair, totally naked
3) Two people dressed as adult babies, swearing at people
4) A magician with doves that could poo on cue
5) A number of scantily clad women stood in various poses
6) A set of Power-Rangers
7) IronMan having a fight with Thor
8) A small rock band gigging

M
A 23 year old Californian was shot dead on Fremont St a couple of hours ago. It is one strange area of Vegas, with a rather concerning crime rate.
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Old Nov 30, 2017, 11:26 pm
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https://www.google.com/flights/#sear...=ONEWORLD;eo=e

Seem to be a lot of MH seats available for 2-7 nights BKK-KUL-DEL, which my calculation makes 360 TP for $523/£386 which is £1.07 per TP.
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Old Dec 1, 2017, 2:40 am
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Originally Posted by zebrametalevel
https://www.google.com/flights/#sear...=ONEWORLD;eo=e

Seem to be a lot of MH seats available for 2-7 nights BKK-KUL-DEL, which my calculation makes 360 TP for $523/£386 which is £1.07 per TP.
I'm in the process of booking BKK-KUL-BOM return for a very similar price. Timings aren't ideal but at that price it doesn't make sense to fly anyone else.
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