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** AA Domestic First on two cabin will earn business TPs and avios for departures on or after 11 January 2017 - see reference posts for more details **

** Note that the practice of AA Domestic 3-class service flights booking into A for 210 TPs when I was no longer available ceased in September 2017. Discussion here. **

Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2016 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.

This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below!

Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
  • from AMS/RTM to US ILN4T7S6/INX6T7S6 reported in this post and this post, e.g. NYC - €1,461, ORD - €1,492, LAS - €1,460, needs to be booked by 25 September, see linked post for details
  • from PRG to US ILN4T8S6 reported in this post, e.g. IAD - £1,033, MIA - £1,133, ATL - £1,080, needs to be booked by 21 September, see linked post for details

Advanced Promotion Fares
  • from DUB to US ILN8C1S6 reported here, e.g. NYC - €1,472, MIA - €1,578, see linked post for details
  • froM DUB to US ILN8S4C1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,427, MIA - €1,532, LAS - €1,667, LAX - €1,795, HNL - €2,095, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, see linked post for details
  • from OTP to PHX ILN8R4C1 reported here, e.g. PHX - £1,252, see linked post for details
  • from AMS to BKK INCEU60 reported here, e.g. BKK - £1,216, see linked post for details

See here in post # 8 for a 2017 archive of exEU sale fare, and see here in post # 445 for a 2016 archive of exEU sale fares.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.

From Europe

24APR £0.90/TP £400 440 TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-KOI-ABZ ; TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-SDZ-ABZ (see post #1221)
02NOV £1.33/TP £583 440 LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR-NCL//NCL-LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR IIIIIIIIII Google Flights armouredant 2 nested tickets, both other a Saturday night. BA ticket, BA & AY metal, AY A350 possible LHR-HEL
08FEB £1.33/TP £346 260 JER-LGW-RAK-LGW-RAK I/I/I/I BA.com ramops
14AUG £1.65/TP £593 360 OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL I-I-I-I ITA Flythe96flag SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) AY
26JUL £1.81/TP £72.70 40 MAD-FRA Z lan.com Prospero 787 flat bed LA
1JAN £1.85/TP £444 240 JER-LGW/LHR-HEL J/I/I/J ITA Matrix flatlander Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
23NOV £1.89/TP £377 200 DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t I-I-I-I-I-I ITA Lorcancoyle IM0B IB DUB to SVQ BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
24NOV £1.91/TP £765.00 400 BUD-DOH-SHJ I/A/I/A QR.com Wozza2404 A320 QR
11AUG £2.10/TP £420 200 AMS-LHR-GLA-LSI-ABZ-LSI-GLA-LHR-AMS I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix --> Priceline.com MrMutton
13NOV £2.56/TP £410 160 LHR-HEL ? BA.com Lorcancoyle wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back BA

From North, Central and South America
26Jan £1.50/TP £960 640 LGA-CMH-DCA-PHL-RDU-CLT-ATL-MIA-PTY and return I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix--> BookWithMatrix dot com --> AA.com HPN-HRL other routings available; reverse routing is £40 more - see post 388 AA
10MAY £2.50/TP £203 80 ORF-CLT-ORD I/I AA.com
21MAY £2.08/TP £250 120 YYZ-PHL/LGA-CLT-ORF/PHF I/I/I AA.com
22NOV £1.43/TP £172 120 DCA-(LGA/BOS/PHL)-CLT-RDU (one way, reverse works as well) I/I/I ITA->BWM->priceline.com

From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
23Feb £0.99/TP £356 360 TPE-xKUL-PEN(JHB)-xKUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com ermen two day min stay, promo fare MH
04JAN £1.10/TP £44 40 KUL-PEN D http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/uk/en.html fitch Works in both directions, rtn £80 if you can make the timnings work MH
11Nov £0.85/TP £307 360 TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com neofung

From Africa


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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. The guide to using ITA matrix in post #4 (see here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seems the most cost effective for this.

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520. Also the BA fare for LHR-HEL-TLL at ~£235 is still available and would get 200 TPs for a return.

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Old May 15, 2017, 2:05 pm
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Originally Posted by rhivolution
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ional-tps.html

and

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...l#post26689187

Further down in the second thread, a couple of people report having the TPs manually added later, though possibly incorrectly!
Interesting. The informantion I had used to make that post was from other folks recent experience. I would say if you go ahead don't do so on any expectation of receiving more TP.
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Adding a sector to TLL run

So I'm hoping to do a LHr-hel- TLL-hel-lhr run. I can see the fare available on BA.com in J, with BA flight no's (code share on Fin air metal). Now the LHr-hel departure is at 1040am. I have not booked as of yet.
However I am based in BCN, and i want to book the 7am BCN -LHR BA flight, in Y, that gets me toLHR around 830am. My question is,
1. is there a way to book all this on one PNR? Mainly i want to be protected if the BA flight from here is delayed. Bcn-lhr (discounted Y)- hel-tll-hel-lhr . Lhr-bcn return will be on vueling separate.
2. Would they do a mixed class? Discounted Y to J for the LhR-tll run. BA are a pain in my previous experience.

Thanks.
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Old May 16, 2017, 12:14 am
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Originally Posted by unileeds
So I'm hoping to do a LHr-hel- TLL-hel-lhr run. I can see the fare available on BA.com in J, with BA flight no's (code share on Fin air metal). Now the LHr-hel departure is at 1040am. I have not booked as of yet.
However I am based in BCN, and i want to book the 7am BCN -LHR BA flight, in Y, that gets me toLHR around 830am. My question is,
1. is there a way to book all this on one PNR? Mainly i want to be protected if the BA flight from here is delayed. Bcn-lhr (discounted Y)- hel-tll-hel-lhr . Lhr-bcn return will be on vueling separate.
2. Would they do a mixed class? Discounted Y to J for the LhR-tll run. BA are a pain in my previous experience.

Thanks.
Not having an answer to your question, another possibility is to fly into LHR the evening before. There are some late night BCN departures, I see 18h15, 20h35 and 21h20 for example. Maybe you could book a RFS? I've done the same for exZRH/exBSL. Hotels around LHR can be pretty cheap. On the way back you don't have to worry since you'll arrive at 0910 from HEL after the run. I usually took an afternoon flight from LHR back home to have some spare time just in case of some delays. You can use the spare time to go to Central London for lunch or some shopping. Two birds with one stone! ^
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Originally Posted by unileeds
So I'm hoping to do a LHr-hel- TLL-hel-lhr run. I can see the fare available on BA.com in J, with BA flight no's (code share on Fin air metal). Now the LHr-hel departure is at 1040am. I have not booked as of yet.
However I am based in BCN, and i want to book the 7am BCN -LHR BA flight, in Y, that gets me toLHR around 830am. My question is,
1. is there a way to book all this on one PNR? Mainly i want to be protected if the BA flight from here is delayed. Bcn-lhr (discounted Y)- hel-tll-hel-lhr . Lhr-bcn return will be on vueling separate.
2. Would they do a mixed class? Discounted Y to J for the LhR-tll run. BA are a pain in my previous experience.

Thanks.
What happens if you try and do this as one booking using the multi-city tool on ba.com?
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Old May 16, 2017, 1:17 am
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Originally Posted by unileeds
So I'm hoping to do a LHr-hel- TLL-hel-lhr run. I can see the fare available on BA.com in J, with BA flight no's (code share on Fin air metal). Now the LHr-hel departure is at 1040am. I have not booked as of yet.
However I am based in BCN, and i want to book the 7am BCN -LHR BA flight, in Y, that gets me toLHR around 830am. My question is,
1. is there a way to book all this on one PNR? Mainly i want to be protected if the BA flight from here is delayed. Bcn-lhr (discounted Y)- hel-tll-hel-lhr . Lhr-bcn return will be on vueling separate.
2. Would they do a mixed class? Discounted Y to J for the LhR-tll run. BA are a pain in my previous experience.

Thanks.
If you're only after the tier points, and not specifically the Finnair flights, you can do the entire itinerary in CE on one PNR for around €470. Is that significantly more than BCN-LHR in Y and the rest in CE?
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Old May 16, 2017, 1:27 am
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Originally Posted by KARFA
Interesting. The informantion I had used to make that post was from other folks recent experience. I would say if you go ahead don't do so on any expectation of receiving more TP.
OK. I'll report back after taking the flight anyway! ^
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Old May 16, 2017, 1:37 am
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OK. I'll report back after taking the flight anyway! ^
Thanks rhivolution, and please do.
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AA INN0R4Z1 ZRH/GVA to US - ~£1,100 in J

As reported by mikeyfly here, a decent AA fare from ZRH/GVA to the US.

Example prices from ZRH:
BOS - £1,026
ORD - £1,036
MIA - £1,026
SFO - £1,137
LAX - £1,136

This does not seem to cover all US destinations, and definitely doesn't include Hawaii.

Routings such as ZRH-MAD-MIA-LAX-SFO-LAX-PHL-MAD-GVA may be possible giving 720 TPs. For a list of > 2,000 mile routes which earn 140 TPs is in post #2 of this thread.

Note that the routing via HEL and on to JFK is not possible since the fare rules only allow routing on the TATL on AA operated flights and AA does not fly to HEL.

EDIT: even though the fare rules states the TATL should be AA operated, it seems AA markted is allowed so routing ZRH-HEL-US booking AY operated TATL under the AA codeshare should be possible as shown here.

No travel period restrictions.

THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING - ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 31 MAY 17.
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA LON
TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN 6 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR; OR
TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
Code:
2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE
      NONE PERMITTED BETWEEN AA AND VY IN EACH DIRECTION
      1 PERMITTED FREE BETWEEN AA AND VY IN BCN/ROM IN EACH
       DIRECTION
      2 PERMITTED FREE IN EUROPE IN EACH DIRECTION.
  AND - 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE
            1 FREE BETWEEN BA/IB AND B6 IN BOS/JFK IN EACH
             DIRECTION
            1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND AS IN LAX/PDX/
             SEA IN EACH DIRECTION
            1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND AM IN MEXICO
             IN EACH DIRECTION
            1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND AC IN CANADA
             IN EACH DIRECTION
            1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND HA IN HAWAII
             IN EACH DIRECTION
            2 FREE ON AA/AY/BA/IB/US ONLY IN EACH DIRECTION
          FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND
           EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE
           COMPONENT.
Code:
CANCELLATIONS
    ANY TIME
      TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF CANCEL/NO-SHOW/
        REFUND.
      WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER.
         NOTE -
          WAIVER ALSO APPLIES FOR TRAVELING COMPANION.
          ------------------------------------------------
          WHEN COMBINING FARES THAT HAVE CANCELLATION FEES
          THE HIGHEST CANCELLATION FEE OF EACH CANCELLED
          PRICING UNIT APPLIES.
          WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTION-
          WHEN COMBINING A REFUNDABLE FARE WITH A NON-
          REFUNDABLE FARE
          1- THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE REFUNDABLE FARE
          COMPONENT IS REFUNDED LESS APPLICABLE PENALTY
          2- THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
          COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
  CHANGES
    ANY TIME
      CHARGE EUR 300.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
      WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER.
         NOTE -
          WAIVER ALSO APPLIES FOR TRAVELING COMPANION.
          NO CHD DISCOUNT / INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT - 10 PCT.
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          THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION AND PERSON.
          A CHANGE IS A ROUTING / OR DATE / OR FLIGHT
          MODIFICATION.
          CHANGE IS PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY OF
          ORIGINAL TICKET.
          THE ORIGINAL NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS
          NON-REFUNDABLE.
          --------------------------------------------------
          WHERE THIS FARE IS COMBINED WITH ANOTHER FARE AND
          ONLY ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE PENALTY
          CONDITIONS OF THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENT WILL
          APPLY.
          WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS BEING CHANGED
          THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
          WILL APPLY.
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          IN CASE OF UPGRADE TO A HIGHER FARE OR IF THE
          ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE DIFFERENCE
          WILL BE COLLECTED -AND- THE CHANGE FEE WILL BE
          APPLIED.
          --------------------------------------------------
          WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE THE
           CHANGE FEE APPLIES AND THERE IS NO REFUND  HOWEVE
          R THE DIFFERENCE IN FARE WILL BE RETURNED TO THE P
          ASSENGER IN THE FORM OF A NON-REFUNDABLE TRAVEL VO
          UCHER WHICH MAY BE APPLIED TOWARDS THE PURCHASE OF
           A TICKET VALID FOR TRANSPORTATION GOVERNED BY AA
          ONLY.
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          REISSUE/REVALIDATION MUST BE MADE AT THE SAME TIME
          THE RESERVATION IS CHANGED.
          --------------------------------------------------
                     CALCULATION FOR REISSUES
          //CHANGES BEFORE OUTBOUND DEPARTURE//
          WHEN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE
          ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN
          EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED.
          -----
          WHEN THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE FIRST FARE
          COMPONENT BUT OTHER FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED
          THE ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
          FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR
          CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE OF TICKET
          REISSUE WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
          --------------------------------------------------
          //CHANGES AFTER DEPARTURE//
          THE ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
          FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
          --------------------------------------------------
          THE NEW ITINERARY MUST MEET ALL RULE PROVISIONS
          OF THE NEWLY TICKETED FARE - I.E.  ADVANCE
          RESERVATIONS/TICKETING DEADLINE/MINIMUM/MAXIMUM
          STAY/BOOKING CLASS/SEASONALITY  ETC.

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Old May 16, 2017, 1:49 am
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Originally Posted by KARFA
Interesting. The informantion I had used to make that post was from other folks recent experience. I would say if you go ahead don't do so on any expectation of receiving more TP.
AFAIR in my case (and my friend's) the ticket got re-issued, so it was showing in myflightsapp as booked into I class. BA wanted a picture of the boarding pass and e-ticket number.
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Old May 16, 2017, 2:35 am
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Thanks for all the detail KARFA
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Old May 16, 2017, 3:09 am
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The AA fare is also available on IB and can be booked as a holiday.
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Old May 16, 2017, 3:12 am
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Originally Posted by KARFA
Routings such as ZRH-MAD-MIA-LAX-SFO-LAX-PHL-MAD-GVA may be possible giving 720 TPs.
This is definitely available, but prices about 20 CHF higher on the CH version of AA.com
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Old May 16, 2017, 3:17 am
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This is definitely available, but prices about 20 CHF higher on the CH version of AA.com
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Old May 16, 2017, 3:20 am
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Originally Posted by rossmacd
This is definitely available, but prices about 20 CHF higher on the CH version of AA.com
Thanks - yes I kind of copied that example from your post on the premium fares thread
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Old May 16, 2017, 3:37 am
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Thanks - yes I kind of copied that example from your post on the premium fares thread
Nice one

There are a number of other iterations of this run. I'm trying to see what is possible on a AA 787 TATL, for those who may not have tried it - example below, but certainly not TP efficient
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