Ldnn1

Demand to IST is being so impacted by external events anyway that I think the potential impact of BoB pales in comparison.

Andriyko

Yes, they deserve an excellent airline that gets people where they need to be in the most efficient way with excellent cabin crew and modern planes. Those who view flying as an opportunity to eat a free sandwich deserve wasting their time and connecting. To each their own.

Aus_Mal

If people are paying a premium price way above competitors then they expect premium service. Ba are moving away from this and wanting to compete with Ryanair, EasyJet and Norwegian. They are not going to win!

Andriyko

People pay the premium for a variety of reasons. Food may be at the bottom of the list. I often pay more to fly a BoB airline because the schedule or the airport suits me better. I do not want to be grouped with people who will inconvenience themselves for a sandwich. In general, I think there are people who will fly the cheapest option, and then there are people who will pay a premium because of the FFP attachment, more convenient schedule, airport., etc...

orbitmic

Add 'at excellent fares' and 'with excellent punctuality' and you now have an 'excellent' description of EasyJet.

Andriyko

Nobody stops people from flying EasyJet. If the price is cheaper, the departure and arrival airports are the same, the schedule is the same, and one is not attached to a FFP, then, yes, please choose on the price. Anyone who is even slightly familiar with how airlines price their services will know that the convenience is what costs the most. When I fly BoB airlines, the more convenient time or airport I choose the more expensive the ticket becomes. And no sandwich is included if I pay more to fly a more convenient service. Unfortunately, when I try to buy a ticket from A to B EasyJet offers me ridiculous departure times while BA offers me many options.

orbitmic

Could you specify what your 'A' and 'B' are? I'm really surprised as on my routes (e.g. GVA, NCE, BCN, AMS, etc) , U2 typically goes for the 'business' times which are not remotely ridiculous, and it is only on mid-morning and mid-afternoon that they have fewer frequencies. They also allow me to return on earlier flights for free (on the cheapest fares) if I arrive early at the airport and they have seats.

PS: and yes, indeed, nobody prevents me from flying U2, just like nobody prevents you from flying BA, nor anyone prevents Mr X or Ms Y from flying SU or ET or SV - we (mostly) all have choice and we (mostly) all use it. And as previously mentioned, most of us do not choose on one thing but on the whole proposition but I don't want to make that point again.

Andriyko

If Easyjet suits your needs please fly with it. You often ask why would people choose (what you say is) a more expensive BA rather than a low cost carrier (the still full service BA is cheaper on my usual route than the BoB PS). I do not have an answer to that question. Not everyone flies to eat a sandwich. People make their decisions for a variety of reasons. I pointed out many times that I aways choose convenience over food as I never associate flying with food. Millions of other people who fly former full service airlines also have their reasons to do so. You choose to ignore that and claim that the higher price can only be charged for food. I disagree. I pay the higher price for what suits my needs. As I said, millions of other passengers do the same. I can explain why I do that but I cannot explain why these millions of people pay the higher price to fly no frills airlines. But it does not matter. The fact is that they do. And the fact is that food plays no role in their decision. You mentioned in one of your posts earlier that you googled the prices from Kiev to London and PS was cheaper than BA on certain dates and this is why people choose to fly with it, but then it refutes your point that there are people who want to pay the premium to fly a full service airline. People (or at least the majority of people) do not want to pay that premium because that do not need to constantly chew on something. And I certainly pay more to fly PS than I do to fly BA. Just for the fact.

orbitmic

Yes my expectations are very much in line with yours

Andriyko

Why? Hasn't the history proven otherwise?

headingwest

Why won't you name your routes Andriyko? Perhaps we can help you find better options!

rossmacd

Andriyko is happy with any airline despite the serivce/offering, as long as the scehdule fits, so must be an airline CEO's dream

simons1

By modern planes you are presumably discounting the 747s and 767s then.

In any case isn't BA's average fleet age about twice that of EK, QR, Etihad, Easyjet etc?

ahmetdouas

His location is specified as Kiev so I guess he does not have many options other than TK!

liamvad

I hope that more airports like KEF sell miniatures of alcohol AFTER security,so you can buy your drinks before you board the plane,much better,and cheaper,I have a few trips with BA this year,only 1 in CE,so won't be buying anything on board,will be interesting to see how many passsengers do on my trips.