Iberia/BA nightmare
#46
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I don't think people balance their chequebooks any more, and most of the people who look at the card statement look for transactions they don't recognise, not ones they'd expect but are missing.
It's a bit like asking someone leaving a supermarket if they've checked the receipt handed to them to make sure they've paid for every item in their trolley.
It's a bit like asking someone leaving a supermarket if they've checked the receipt handed to them to make sure they've paid for every item in their trolley.
#47
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The only fool-proof way to reconcile things is to do what I set up at work which is to have a Purchase Order system and an Invoicing system. Purchase Orders are raised for all items that are to be purchased and then matched up against Invoices received or credit card payments. That way you can also see instantly if there are purchase orders outstanding for which they are no invoices/payments.
That's probably overkill for most consumers (including me).
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The OP replied he did not know. See here (first sentence in this post).
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/26414707-post20.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/26414707-post20.html
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#50
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I had a similar moment of panic last year after booking IB flights via Iberia’s website. About two days after booking the flights I received an email from Iberia. It looked innocuous at first glance - the email had “Travel Document” in the subject line and contained a full breakdown of the itinerary. At the very bottom, under “General Information” included vital information that really should have been highlighted at the top of the email:
I rebooked the flights in the end but ran into the same ticket issue problem. After giving up on Iberia.com, I called the airline and completed the booking offline. Had I not revisited the email, I would have been oblivious to the cancellation. After that experience I’ve treated all IB bookings with meticulous care.
DEAR MR/MRS IT HAS NOT BEEN POSSIBLE TO ISSUE YOUR
TICKET. PLEASE CONTACT US ON 0203 6843774 IN THE NEXT
24 HOURS TO AVOID THE CANCELATION OF YOUR BOOKING.
THANK YOU.
What transpired was Iberia.com failed to draw the funds from my credit card so no tickets were issued and the booking subsequently auto-cancelled because the customer, i.e. me, failed to notice the action required on my part to rescue the booking.TICKET. PLEASE CONTACT US ON 0203 6843774 IN THE NEXT
24 HOURS TO AVOID THE CANCELATION OF YOUR BOOKING.
THANK YOU.
I rebooked the flights in the end but ran into the same ticket issue problem. After giving up on Iberia.com, I called the airline and completed the booking offline. Had I not revisited the email, I would have been oblivious to the cancellation. After that experience I’ve treated all IB bookings with meticulous care.
#51
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I had a trawl through my emails regarding my earlier post about non payment.
The first one was a ''booking confirmation'' however once opened above the flight details and PNR info in bold red type it said ''purchase request being processed'' and on closer inspection ticket numbers were pending.
This was closely followed by another email titled ''Credit card denial notification'' detailing what I said in the earlier post.
The first one was a ''booking confirmation'' however once opened above the flight details and PNR info in bold red type it said ''purchase request being processed'' and on closer inspection ticket numbers were pending.
This was closely followed by another email titled ''Credit card denial notification'' detailing what I said in the earlier post.
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I had a similar moment of panic last year after booking IB flights via Iberia’s website. About two days after booking the flights I received an email from Iberia. It looked innocuous at first glance - the email had “Travel Document” in the subject line and contained a full breakdown of the itinerary. At the very bottom, under “General Information” included vital information that really should have been highlighted at the top of the email:
DEAR MR/MRS IT HAS NOT BEEN POSSIBLE TO ISSUE YOUR
TICKET. PLEASE CONTACT US ON 0203 6843774 IN THE NEXT
24 HOURS TO AVOID THE CANCELATION OF YOUR BOOKING.
THANK YOU.
What transpired was Iberia.com failed to draw the funds from my credit card so no tickets were issued and the booking subsequently auto-cancelled because the customer, i.e. me, failed to notice the action required on my part to rescue the booking.TICKET. PLEASE CONTACT US ON 0203 6843774 IN THE NEXT
24 HOURS TO AVOID THE CANCELATION OF YOUR BOOKING.
THANK YOU.
Wow! That is just nasty!
#53
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The first one was a ''booking confirmation'' however once opened above the flight details and PNR info in bold red type it said ''purchase request being processed'' and on closer inspection ticket numbers were pending.
This was closely followed by another email titled ''Credit card denial notification'' detailing what I said in the earlier post.
This was closely followed by another email titled ''Credit card denial notification'' detailing what I said in the earlier post.
- "Booking Confirmation" - Ticket number marked "Pending"
- "Ticket confirmation" - very short email with 075- ticket number showing centre stage, with a 93kb PDF attached with full flight details, ticket number and VAT stuff. Also the fare calculation. This second email arrived 100 minutes after the first.
The subject lines are as basic as that.
Interestingly, and just in case this is useful, it gives the registered address as: 10 Hammersmith Broadway, London W6 7AL
At least one EC261 claimant used the oneworld / Heathrow address.
I mentioned in a previous discussion with CaroFos that if Iberia shows something as cheaper, it is worth a call to BA to check their prices. I have more confidence in the BA system on the whole, though I can't actually point to any problems with Iberia.
#54
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My bank literally blocks every payment I ever make for flight tickets and texts me asking me to call their fraud department. It's taken me at times over 24 hours to do so and yet you wouldn't have known from the tickets that the payment hadn't been completed. You even get the 'eticket has been issued' emails. If the bank didn't inform me or if I didn't check my messages on that phone, I may go without noticing for a long time.
#58
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I had a similar moment of panic last year after booking IB flights via Iberia’s website. About two days after booking the flights I received an email from Iberia. It looked innocuous at first glance - the email had “Travel Document” in the subject line and contained a full breakdown of the itinerary. At the very bottom, under “General Information” included vital information that really should have been highlighted at the top of the email:
I rebooked the flights in the end but ran into the same ticket issue problem. After giving up on Iberia.com, I called the airline and completed the booking offline. Had I not revisited the email, I would have been oblivious to the cancellation. After that experience I’ve treated all IB bookings with meticulous care.
DEAR MR/MRS IT HAS NOT BEEN POSSIBLE TO ISSUE YOUR
TICKET. PLEASE CONTACT US ON 0203 6843774 IN THE NEXT
24 HOURS TO AVOID THE CANCELATION OF YOUR BOOKING.
THANK YOU.
What transpired was Iberia.com failed to draw the funds from my credit card so no tickets were issued and the booking subsequently auto-cancelled because the customer, i.e. me, failed to notice the action required on my part to rescue the booking.TICKET. PLEASE CONTACT US ON 0203 6843774 IN THE NEXT
24 HOURS TO AVOID THE CANCELATION OF YOUR BOOKING.
THANK YOU.
I rebooked the flights in the end but ran into the same ticket issue problem. After giving up on Iberia.com, I called the airline and completed the booking offline. Had I not revisited the email, I would have been oblivious to the cancellation. After that experience I’ve treated all IB bookings with meticulous care.
#60
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And just to allow comparison, here is my recent sequence when nothing went wrong, by email Subject, from Iberia L.A.E.:
- "Booking Confirmation" - Ticket number marked "Pending"
- "Ticket confirmation" - very short email with 075- ticket number showing centre stage, with a 93kb PDF attached with full flight details, ticket number and VAT stuff. Also the fare calculation. This second email arrived 100 minutes after the first.
- "Booking Confirmation" - Ticket number marked "Pending"
- "Ticket confirmation" - very short email with 075- ticket number showing centre stage, with a 93kb PDF attached with full flight details, ticket number and VAT stuff. Also the fare calculation. This second email arrived 100 minutes after the first.
Other times (the minority in my experience) you do get both emails, as you say, in which case the first one says "Solicitud de compra realizada" rather than "Compra confirmada" and explicitly lists the ticket number as pending. I suppose it just depends on the payment method and I could match each case with one of my credit cards.
Anyway, the take home message from this unfortunate situation is that IB either sends you the ticket number immediately (in which case there should be no problem) or explicitly says it is pending (in which case it is probably a good idea to be alert for the second email and call if it doesn't arrive in a short period, unless one has as many flights as our CWS). I fully sympathise with the point of view that this should not be the passenger's job, but weighted against the risk of spoiling a vacation it is probably worth it.