BA "Mad Thursdays" Continue - PRG-MEX in F - £486
#706
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 231
I have 2 tickets issued by BA but most of my flights are on AA. Have not heard a peep from BA. I will not log into my booking then BA can proof I knew about cancelled reservation, print my itinerary and show up at the BA counter in Prague. If they do not let us fly I will sue them. There was a court case about error fare on script- UK court- the airline had to pay damages in the amount of 8000 pounds because they did not honor the error fare ticket.
the question was wether the customer had to know that fare was error, The court concluded that only "insiders" can differentiate.
So don´t ask just go there. We have the law on our side. the only chance they have is scarring us into volontarily giving up our seats.
It is the law that they have to take you when you have a booking in your hand, even if they do not have a booking in their computer.
Looking forward to loads of Mexican food!
the question was wether the customer had to know that fare was error, The court concluded that only "insiders" can differentiate.
So don´t ask just go there. We have the law on our side. the only chance they have is scarring us into volontarily giving up our seats.
It is the law that they have to take you when you have a booking in your hand, even if they do not have a booking in their computer.
Looking forward to loads of Mexican food!
Move on. You enjoyed the gamblers rush for a day. Don't be the miserable guy at the pub sticking coins in the fruit machine day in day out.
#707
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I hope you enjoy Taco Bell because you are not going anywhere. My experience of taking a corporate to court as a private individual was extremely expensive and the protracted stress over several years was not worth the 8K you quote.
Move on. You enjoyed the gamblers rush for a day. Don't be the miserable guy at the pub sticking coins in the fruit machine day in day out.
Move on. You enjoyed the gamblers rush for a day. Don't be the miserable guy at the pub sticking coins in the fruit machine day in day out.
#708
Join Date: Aug 2010
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While I personally wouldn't bother taking someone to court over this, there's a world of difference between 'small claim where we can't claim our legal costs and the marginal costs of providing the service are small' and taking a large corporate to costs over several hundred thousand.
But yeah, if you don't think that you can handle a small claim comfortably yourself, don't even dream of lawyering up, and certainly don't think of appealing without a lawyer!
But yeah, if you don't think that you can handle a small claim comfortably yourself, don't even dream of lawyering up, and certainly don't think of appealing without a lawyer!
#709
Join Date: Feb 2010
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While I personally wouldn't bother taking someone to court over this, there's a world of difference between 'small claim where we can't claim our legal costs and the marginal costs of providing the service are small' and taking a large corporate to costs over several hundred thousand.
But yeah, if you don't think that you can handle a small claim comfortably yourself, don't even dream of lawyering up, and certainly don't think of appealing without a lawyer!
But yeah, if you don't think that you can handle a small claim comfortably yourself, don't even dream of lawyering up, and certainly don't think of appealing without a lawyer!
Maybe if I get some gardening leave soon
#710
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While I personally wouldn't bother taking someone to court over this, there's a world of difference between 'small claim where we can't claim our legal costs and the marginal costs of providing the service are small' and taking a large corporate to costs over several hundred thousand.
But yeah, if you don't think that you can handle a small claim comfortably yourself, don't even dream of lawyering up, and certainly don't think of appealing without a lawyer!
But yeah, if you don't think that you can handle a small claim comfortably yourself, don't even dream of lawyering up, and certainly don't think of appealing without a lawyer!
The fact that the Lufthansa PRG-CPT judgment included costs in excess of £11,700 (a sum significantly less than that claimed by the claimant) goes to show how legally complicated (and expensive!) these claims can be.
#711
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: London
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 1,282
Indeed. I've got a ticket booked in this deal and I've adopted a laissez fare attitude towards it. If AA cancel it , so be it. I won't be booking any positioning flights or hotels for a good couple of months as I'm convinced AA are yet to review these tickets , as over on the AA Brazil mistake thread , AA have backtracked from Twitter confirmations and are canceling any tickets purchased with a non Brazilian credit card. However there wasn't any skulduggery like that on this fare so maybe it will remain ticketed. Let's see ...... To be honest I've enjoyed the ride.
#712
Join Date: Jul 2014
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Indeed. I've got a ticket booked in this deal and I've adopted a laissez fare attitude towards it. If AA cancel it , so be it. I won't be booking any positioning flights or hotels for a good couple of months as I'm convinced AA are yet to review these tickets , as over on the AA Brazil mistake thread , AA have backtracked from Twitter confirmations and are canceling any tickets purchased with a non Brazilian credit card. However there wasn't any skulduggery like that on this fare so maybe it will remain ticketed. Let's see ...... To be honest I've enjoyed the ride.
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#713
Join Date: Aug 2014
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Is there anyone in Prague Wednesday 2nd september? maybe we can do a beer in the evening.
i'm NOT there for this error fare but just for business. but i'm free that evening
i'm NOT there for this error fare but just for business. but i'm free that evening
#714
Join Date: Mar 2015
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All this talk of going to court is frankly laughable. This thread clearly demonstrates people thought this was a fare error long before the tickets got cancelled - BA made an error, some people lucked out and flew the next day, most people didn't and had their tickets cancelled and will get their money back.... Getting a grip and sense of perspective would be a much better course of action than appointing lawyers for the sake of a couple of grand (plus stress, bother, sanity etc.)
#715
Join Date: Oct 2013
Programs: BA GGL/CCR
Posts: 370
Going to court would be pretty silly unless BA refused to reimburse non-refundable expenses.
BA's attitude here is the bigger problem. Yes, flyers eagerly took advantage, but BA bears ultimate responsibility for filing the fare.
We got in on several Viking bookings, decided not to do Bratwurst for a variety of reasons, and grabbed one Cancun fare for a lark. Not interested in Warsaw as J can always be had around that price and UUAd. BA gained a lot of goodwill in our household by honoring Viking, and several other normal fare bookings were made afterwards. They've lost some of that goodwill by canceling Cancun.
I hope they will consider a middle ground, such as offering J and unrestricted Avios/GUF upgrades, or service recovery in the way of Avios or a substantial voucher/discount for future travel.
The irritation here is that AA is being honorable, and BA isn't.
BA's attitude here is the bigger problem. Yes, flyers eagerly took advantage, but BA bears ultimate responsibility for filing the fare.
We got in on several Viking bookings, decided not to do Bratwurst for a variety of reasons, and grabbed one Cancun fare for a lark. Not interested in Warsaw as J can always be had around that price and UUAd. BA gained a lot of goodwill in our household by honoring Viking, and several other normal fare bookings were made afterwards. They've lost some of that goodwill by canceling Cancun.
I hope they will consider a middle ground, such as offering J and unrestricted Avios/GUF upgrades, or service recovery in the way of Avios or a substantial voucher/discount for future travel.
The irritation here is that AA is being honorable, and BA isn't.
#716
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 92
Going to court would be pretty silly unless BA refused to reimburse non-refundable expenses.
BA's attitude here is the bigger problem. Yes, flyers eagerly took advantage, but BA bears ultimate responsibility for filing the fare.
We got in on several Viking bookings, decided not to do Bratwurst for a variety of reasons, and grabbed one Cancun fare for a lark. Not interested in Warsaw as J can always be had around that price and UUAd. BA gained a lot of goodwill in our household by honoring Viking, and several other normal fare bookings were made afterwards. They've lost some of that goodwill by canceling Cancun.
I hope they will consider a middle ground, such as offering J and unrestricted Avios/GUF upgrades, or service recovery in the way of Avios or a substantial voucher/discount for future travel.
The irritation here is that AA is being honorable, and BA isn't.
BA's attitude here is the bigger problem. Yes, flyers eagerly took advantage, but BA bears ultimate responsibility for filing the fare.
We got in on several Viking bookings, decided not to do Bratwurst for a variety of reasons, and grabbed one Cancun fare for a lark. Not interested in Warsaw as J can always be had around that price and UUAd. BA gained a lot of goodwill in our household by honoring Viking, and several other normal fare bookings were made afterwards. They've lost some of that goodwill by canceling Cancun.
I hope they will consider a middle ground, such as offering J and unrestricted Avios/GUF upgrades, or service recovery in the way of Avios or a substantial voucher/discount for future travel.
The irritation here is that AA is being honorable, and BA isn't.
#717
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 92
I booked tickets on ba.com to take the family away at half term.
My tickets were cancelled by ba before I received any email about this intended action. My credit card was charged and at the time the email from ba was received it had not been refunded. Ba is sitting on my money and that of many others. I shall have currency charges connected to this refund.
One fare error is a mistake, two is incompetent and is a third in such a short space of time intentional? How much interest has ba earned sitting on customers money for flights it has no intention of providing?
I have just been to Morrison's and bought beef burgers originally on sale at £2.99 that were priced at 29p. I also got a 79p yoghurt for 5p. The sales assistant took my money without comment and scanned my loyalty card. I am now unsure whether I should eat the items just in case Morrison's say it was an error as the items were too discounted to be a legitimate sale and it should have been obvious to me.
I flew to barceleno in the past for nil £ plus taxes. It was not an error, businesses try all sorts of promotions to get customers.
In this instance ba even thanked a blogger for sharing the fantastic deals that were available on its website at that moment in direct response to his blogging the fare. It is not as clear cut as ba would like especially given AA appears to be full filling its contractual obligations.
My tickets were cancelled by ba before I received any email about this intended action. My credit card was charged and at the time the email from ba was received it had not been refunded. Ba is sitting on my money and that of many others. I shall have currency charges connected to this refund.
One fare error is a mistake, two is incompetent and is a third in such a short space of time intentional? How much interest has ba earned sitting on customers money for flights it has no intention of providing?
I have just been to Morrison's and bought beef burgers originally on sale at £2.99 that were priced at 29p. I also got a 79p yoghurt for 5p. The sales assistant took my money without comment and scanned my loyalty card. I am now unsure whether I should eat the items just in case Morrison's say it was an error as the items were too discounted to be a legitimate sale and it should have been obvious to me.
I flew to barceleno in the past for nil £ plus taxes. It was not an error, businesses try all sorts of promotions to get customers.
In this instance ba even thanked a blogger for sharing the fantastic deals that were available on its website at that moment in direct response to his blogging the fare. It is not as clear cut as ba would like especially given AA appears to be full filling its contractual obligations.
#718
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Join Date: Nov 2011
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Trying to compare items bought from a shop and an airline ticket is a false comparison.
People try and raise them on a regular basis but they don't go anywhere because they are not the same.
And did BA actually charge you or was it just a 'hold' placed on it - they are not the same.
I booked a flight on Wednesday (not BA) yet the money was only actually charged to my account yesterday. In the interim it was just in 'pending charges' and not even listed as a specific transaction.
People try and raise them on a regular basis but they don't go anywhere because they are not the same.
And did BA actually charge you or was it just a 'hold' placed on it - they are not the same.
I booked a flight on Wednesday (not BA) yet the money was only actually charged to my account yesterday. In the interim it was just in 'pending charges' and not even listed as a specific transaction.
#719
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I booked tickets on ba.com to take the family away at half term.
My tickets were cancelled by ba before I received any email about this intended action. My credit card was charged and at the time the email from ba was received it had not been refunded. Ba is sitting on my money and that of many others. I shall have currency charges connected to this refund.
One fare error is a mistake, two is incompetent and is a third in such a short space of time intentional? How much interest has ba earned sitting on customers money for flights it has no intention of providing?
I have just been to Morrison's and bought beef burgers originally on sale at £2.99 that were priced at 29p. I also got a 79p yoghurt for 5p. The sales assistant took my money without comment and scanned my loyalty card. I am now unsure whether I should eat the items just in case Morrison's say it was an error as the items were too discounted to be a legitimate sale and it should have been obvious to me.
I flew to barceleno in the past for nil £ plus taxes. It was not an error, businesses try all sorts of promotions to get customers.
In this instance ba even thanked a blogger for sharing the fantastic deals that were available on its website at that moment in direct response to his blogging the fare. It is not as clear cut as ba would like especially given AA appears to be full filling its contractual obligations.
My tickets were cancelled by ba before I received any email about this intended action. My credit card was charged and at the time the email from ba was received it had not been refunded. Ba is sitting on my money and that of many others. I shall have currency charges connected to this refund.
One fare error is a mistake, two is incompetent and is a third in such a short space of time intentional? How much interest has ba earned sitting on customers money for flights it has no intention of providing?
I have just been to Morrison's and bought beef burgers originally on sale at £2.99 that were priced at 29p. I also got a 79p yoghurt for 5p. The sales assistant took my money without comment and scanned my loyalty card. I am now unsure whether I should eat the items just in case Morrison's say it was an error as the items were too discounted to be a legitimate sale and it should have been obvious to me.
I flew to barceleno in the past for nil £ plus taxes. It was not an error, businesses try all sorts of promotions to get customers.
In this instance ba even thanked a blogger for sharing the fantastic deals that were available on its website at that moment in direct response to his blogging the fare. It is not as clear cut as ba would like especially given AA appears to be full filling its contractual obligations.
#720
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Brighton England
Programs: AA Plat, various hotels
Posts: 1,220
I booked tickets on ba.com to take the family away at half term.
My tickets were cancelled by ba before I received any email about this intended action. My credit card was charged and at the time the email from ba was received it had not been refunded. Ba is sitting on my money and that of many others. I shall have currency charges connected to this refund.
One fare error is a mistake, two is incompetent and is a third in such a short space of time intentional? How much interest has ba earned sitting on customers money for flights it has no intention of providing?
I have just been to Morrison's and bought beef burgers originally on sale at £2.99 that were priced at 29p. I also got a 79p yoghurt for 5p. The sales assistant took my money without comment and scanned my loyalty card. I am now unsure whether I should eat the items just in case Morrison's say it was an error as the items were too discounted to be a legitimate sale and it should have been obvious to me.
I flew to barceleno in the past for nil £ plus taxes. It was not an error, businesses try all sorts of promotions to get customers.
In this instance ba even thanked a blogger for sharing the fantastic deals that were available on its website at that moment in direct response to his blogging the fare. It is not as clear cut as ba would like especially given AA appears to be full filling its contractual obligations.
My tickets were cancelled by ba before I received any email about this intended action. My credit card was charged and at the time the email from ba was received it had not been refunded. Ba is sitting on my money and that of many others. I shall have currency charges connected to this refund.
One fare error is a mistake, two is incompetent and is a third in such a short space of time intentional? How much interest has ba earned sitting on customers money for flights it has no intention of providing?
I have just been to Morrison's and bought beef burgers originally on sale at £2.99 that were priced at 29p. I also got a 79p yoghurt for 5p. The sales assistant took my money without comment and scanned my loyalty card. I am now unsure whether I should eat the items just in case Morrison's say it was an error as the items were too discounted to be a legitimate sale and it should have been obvious to me.
I flew to barceleno in the past for nil £ plus taxes. It was not an error, businesses try all sorts of promotions to get customers.
In this instance ba even thanked a blogger for sharing the fantastic deals that were available on its website at that moment in direct response to his blogging the fare. It is not as clear cut as ba would like especially given AA appears to be full filling its contractual obligations.
As for your supermarket example, any savvy shopper looking for bargains knows that the supermarkets reduce by 30/50/75/90% as the out of code date gets closer.
BA really ought to come up with a soothing customer statement otherwise some people might just start looking elsewhere for their flights.
I feel sorry for all the customer facing employees who are getting the brunt of all this and only being paid a fraction of the people taking the decisions and putting them in this position.