Jan 2, 2015, 8:37 am
Last edit by: theultimateflyer
Welcome to the thread — please read the wiki first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
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Current Promotions of Interest
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note the following:
Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked | Price per Tier Point | Total Price | Total Tier Points | Route | Booking Classes | Booking Channel | Credit | Notes (if applicable) | Airlines
Please remember to:
From Europe
17DEC | £0.75/TP | £909 | 1200 | DUB-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-DUB | I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I | aa.com | perthflyer | BA AA
30JUL | £0.93/TP | £335 | 360 | JER-LGW-SSH-LGW-JER | J/I/I/J | ba.com | dom462 | CE | BA
01 NOV | £0.99/TP | £1343 | 1360 | CPH-HEL-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-CPH | I/I/I/A/P/P/A/I/I/I | ITA Matrix | MrMutton
19 AUG | £1.01/TP | £1,375 (1938 EUR) | 1360 | DUB-HEL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-DUB | IIIAAAAIII | OttoMH | J/F | AY BA AA
16 AUG | £1.22/TP | £1,675 (21.5k NOK) | 1360 | OSL-HEL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-OSL | IIIAAAAIII | OttoMH | J/F | AY BA AA
16 AUG | £1.27/TP | £1,518 (19.5k NOK) | 1200 | OSL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-OSL | IIAAAAII | OttoMH | J/F | BA AA
14AUG | £1.31/TP | £470 | 360 | OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL | I-I-I-I | ITA | Flythe96flag | SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) | AY
04 SEP | £1.31/TP | £1,220 (1681 EUR) | 910 | DME-MAD-JFK-LAX-MIA-MAD-DME | all in I | iberia.com | henkybaby | J | BA AA IB | works till 6/16 so far
23AUG | £1.34/TP | £1148 | 860 | DUB-PHL-PHX-LAS-PHX-JFK-LHR,LCY-DUB | I/P/P/P/P/I/I | ticketed on aa.com | megaloman | AA & BA (UD on 747 JFK-LHR)
17AUG | £1.67/TP | £1408 |840 |BHX-JFK-PHX-LAS & back | I-A-A-A-A-I | aa.com |Swiss Tony | AA ski slope bed on TATL | AA
26JUL | £1.81/TP | £72.70 | 40 | MAD-FRA | Z | lan.com | Prospero | 787 flat bed | LA
23NOV | £1.89/TP | £377 | 200 | DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t | I-I-I-I-I-I | ITA | Lorcancoyle | IM0B IB DUB to SVQ | BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
17 AUG | £1.89/TP | £1818 | 960 | OSL-LON-KUL//SIN-SYD/SYD-PER/PER-SYD-SIN/SIN-LHR-OSL | BugAlugs | J | BA QF | INCSALE ended 14thSep - (Applied GUF via TA (moves J to F on BA longhaul and scores 1260 TPS in total)
31 DEC | £1.91/TP | £1220 | 640 | AMS-LHR-MIA-SCL // EZE-JFK-LHR-BCN | J/I/I-I/I/J | AA.com | nufnuf77 (can also return to LHR for £20 less but 40TP less
13NOV | £2.56/TP | £410 | 160 | LHR-HEL | ? | BA.com | Lorcancoyle | wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back | BA
1JAN | £1.85/TP | £444 | 240 | JER-LGW/LHR-HEL | J/I/I/J | ITA Matrix | flatlander | Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
24NOV | £1.91/TP | £765.00 | 400 | BUD-DOH-SHJ | I/A/I/A | QR.com | Wozza2404 | A320 | QR
7DEC | £2.24/TP | £942 | 420 | MAD-MIA-SXM-CLT-JFK-LHR | I/I/I/A/I | ticketed on aa.com | megaloman | other routings possible earning more TPs could have lower the price with added LHR-CDG leg to £865 (£2.06/TP)
22JAN | £2.29/TP | £640 | 280 | FCO-CMB-FCO | I/I | book on SriLankan website | theultimateflyer
From North, Central and South America
31JUL | £0.39/TP | £484 | 1240 | HNL-LAX-BOS-MIA-BAQ-MIA-PHL-LAX-HNL | AAAIIAAA | ITA Matrix | Pawel Siewko | AA
16OCT | £0.55/TP | £298.50 | 540 | JFK-LAX-DEN-LAX-JFK | P-P-P-P | aa.com | Calum | AA A321t F seat between JFK & LAX (FARE GONE)
16JUL | £0.57/TP | £554 | 980 | LAX-LAS-PHX-PHL-CLT-TPA-MIA-PTY-MIA-PHL-PHX-LAS-LAX | PPPPPPIIPPPP | aa.com | Airprox | AA + US
27JUL | £0.80/TP | £15.94 | 20 | VVC-BOG-MDE | A | lan.com | JohnnyColombia | A is economy on LA | LA
08NOV | £0.84/TP | £772.50 | 920 | KOA-LAX-CLT-SJU-CLT-LAX-KOA | AAIIAA | aa.com | Lappe | Same day turnarounds available
30SEP | £0.87/TP | £808.00 | 920 | BOG-MIA-LAX-HNL-LAX-MIA-BOG | I-P-P-P-P-I | aa.com | JohnnyColombia | No comments
20SEP | £1.00/TP | £663.20 | 660 | LGA-BOS-LAX-PHX-LAX-BOS-LGA | P-P-P-P-P-P | americanairlines.co.uk | njf63 | TCON on 737 so not too comfortable but good availability next Mar/Apr
21AUG | £1.05 | £253 | 240 | BOS-PHL-PIT-PHL-BOS | PPPP | aa.com | Simon Schus | AA op by US
02NOV | £1.27/TP | £1250 | 980 | MCO-MIA-LAX-HNL | A | AA | Mr 1A
05AUG | £1.37/TP | £578 | 420 | LAS-PHL-LAS | A/P | aa.com | Lucanesque | First | AA op by US
28JUL | £1.43/TP | £400 | 280 | SCL-IPC-SCL | Z | lan.com - Chilean version | moonman85 | 787 flat bed | LAN
06NOV | £1.67/TP | £66.00 | 40 | JFK-YYZ | Z | tam.com.br | frb98mf | Fifth Freedom flight every Wed/Fri/Sun, 767 flat bed
13NOV | £1.06/TP | £705 | 660 | RIC-CLT-PHL-PHX-PHL-CLT-RIC | A | AA.com | wenzlydale | 2 trips this year - mixture of A320s and B757s not a lot of food offered but all the G&Ts you could wish for
07JAN|£1.24/TP | £668 | 540 | SEA-MIA-ATL-CLT-SEA | P/P/P/P | aa.com | EsherFlyer | 24h transcon bounce. All I could fit in...
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
18AUG | £1.25/TP | £440.00 | 360 | BKK-KUL-ICN Return | Z | www.malaysiaairlines.com | Wozza2404 | A330 Angle Flat for long haul sectors | MH
12OCT | £1.68/TP | £1,546 | 920 | TLV-MAD-LHR-JFK-LAX-JFK-LHR-MAD-TLV | I/I/I/I/I/I/I | iberia.com | frb98mf | Business (bonus: A330/A340 on the TLV legs!) | IB
24NOV | £1.43/TP | £803 | 560 | CTS-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | zeltergiset | One 24hr+ stopover in HKG allowed | CX
06JAN | £1.86/TP | £856 | 460 | HND-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | Gastrocnemius | One 24hr+ stopover in HKG allowed | CX
11JAN | £1.26/TP | £707 | 560 | KTM-KUL-TPE-KUL-KTM | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
11JAN | £1.68/TP | £940 | 560 | TPE-KUL-KTM-KUL-TPE | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
From Africa
11AUG | £0.89/TP | £748 | 840 | ACC-LHR-MIA-LAX-MIA-LHR-ACC | I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I | iberia call centre | njf63 | CW / AA J | IB
15NOV | £2.00/TP | £1200 | 600 | CPT-DOH-JFK-DOH-CPT | I/I/I/I | QR Website | Calum | QR J on the B788/A350 & 46hrs of flying | QR
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Prospero's guide to using ITA matrix in post 3 (here along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or less
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year)
Or a slightly more interesting fun run
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VLL via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520
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Historic information
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below!
Current Promotions of Interest
- from DUB to US IJN8S4Z1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,074, MIA - €1,119, LAS - €1,224, LAX - €1,296, HNL - €1,623, needs to be booked by 2 February, for outbound travel over Easter and summer 2016, see linked post for details
- from DUB to US ILN8S4Z1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €920, MIA - €958, LAS - €1,048, LAX - €1,110, needs to be booked by 2 February, for outbound travel over November and Christmas & New Year 2016, see linked post for details
- from DUB to US ILR28AP reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,538, MIA - €1,601, LAS - €1,751, LAX - €1,854, HNL - €1,834, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, no stopovers, see linked post for details
- from DUB to US ILN8S4E1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,538, MIA - €1,601, LAS - €1,751, LAX - €1,854, HNL - €1,834, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, allows stopovers for €75, see linked post for details
- from CPH to US ILR21AP reported here, e.g. JFK - £890, MIA - £1,132, ORD - £942, LAX - £1,277, HNL - £1,361, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, no stopovers, see linked post for details
- from CPH to US ILN2S4E1 reported here, JFK - £890, MIA - £1,132, ORD - £942, LAX - £1,277, HNL - £1,361, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, allows stopovers for €75, see linked post for details
- ILN2S4Z1 from OSL to HNL (19.5k/21.5k NOK (£1,520/£1,675) via. LON or via. HEL & LON)
PERMITTED 23NOV 15 THROUGH 28NOV 15 OR 22DEC 15 THROUGH
01JAN 16 OR 27MAR 16 THROUGH 31MAR 16 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note the following:
- Current availability is not guaranteed.
- All prices include taxes.
Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked | Price per Tier Point | Total Price | Total Tier Points | Route | Booking Classes | Booking Channel | Credit | Notes (if applicable) | Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
- List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.
From Europe
17DEC | £0.75/TP | £909 | 1200 | DUB-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-DUB | I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I | aa.com | perthflyer | BA AA
30JUL | £0.93/TP | £335 | 360 | JER-LGW-SSH-LGW-JER | J/I/I/J | ba.com | dom462 | CE | BA
01 NOV | £0.99/TP | £1343 | 1360 | CPH-HEL-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-CPH | I/I/I/A/P/P/A/I/I/I | ITA Matrix | MrMutton
19 AUG | £1.01/TP | £1,375 (1938 EUR) | 1360 | DUB-HEL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-DUB | IIIAAAAIII | OttoMH | J/F | AY BA AA
16 AUG | £1.22/TP | £1,675 (21.5k NOK) | 1360 | OSL-HEL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-OSL | IIIAAAAIII | OttoMH | J/F | AY BA AA
16 AUG | £1.27/TP | £1,518 (19.5k NOK) | 1200 | OSL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-OSL | IIAAAAII | OttoMH | J/F | BA AA
14AUG | £1.31/TP | £470 | 360 | OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL | I-I-I-I | ITA | Flythe96flag | SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) | AY
04 SEP | £1.31/TP | £1,220 (1681 EUR) | 910 | DME-MAD-JFK-LAX-MIA-MAD-DME | all in I | iberia.com | henkybaby | J | BA AA IB | works till 6/16 so far
23AUG | £1.34/TP | £1148 | 860 | DUB-PHL-PHX-LAS-PHX-JFK-LHR,LCY-DUB | I/P/P/P/P/I/I | ticketed on aa.com | megaloman | AA & BA (UD on 747 JFK-LHR)
17AUG | £1.67/TP | £1408 |840 |BHX-JFK-PHX-LAS & back | I-A-A-A-A-I | aa.com |Swiss Tony | AA ski slope bed on TATL | AA
26JUL | £1.81/TP | £72.70 | 40 | MAD-FRA | Z | lan.com | Prospero | 787 flat bed | LA
23NOV | £1.89/TP | £377 | 200 | DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t | I-I-I-I-I-I | ITA | Lorcancoyle | IM0B IB DUB to SVQ | BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
17 AUG | £1.89/TP | £1818 | 960 | OSL-LON-KUL//SIN-SYD/SYD-PER/PER-SYD-SIN/SIN-LHR-OSL | BugAlugs | J | BA QF | INCSALE ended 14thSep - (Applied GUF via TA (moves J to F on BA longhaul and scores 1260 TPS in total)
31 DEC | £1.91/TP | £1220 | 640 | AMS-LHR-MIA-SCL // EZE-JFK-LHR-BCN | J/I/I-I/I/J | AA.com | nufnuf77 (can also return to LHR for £20 less but 40TP less
13NOV | £2.56/TP | £410 | 160 | LHR-HEL | ? | BA.com | Lorcancoyle | wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back | BA
1JAN | £1.85/TP | £444 | 240 | JER-LGW/LHR-HEL | J/I/I/J | ITA Matrix | flatlander | Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
24NOV | £1.91/TP | £765.00 | 400 | BUD-DOH-SHJ | I/A/I/A | QR.com | Wozza2404 | A320 | QR
7DEC | £2.24/TP | £942 | 420 | MAD-MIA-SXM-CLT-JFK-LHR | I/I/I/A/I | ticketed on aa.com | megaloman | other routings possible earning more TPs could have lower the price with added LHR-CDG leg to £865 (£2.06/TP)
22JAN | £2.29/TP | £640 | 280 | FCO-CMB-FCO | I/I | book on SriLankan website | theultimateflyer
From North, Central and South America
31JUL | £0.39/TP | £484 | 1240 | HNL-LAX-BOS-MIA-BAQ-MIA-PHL-LAX-HNL | AAAIIAAA | ITA Matrix | Pawel Siewko | AA
16OCT | £0.55/TP | £298.50 | 540 | JFK-LAX-DEN-LAX-JFK | P-P-P-P | aa.com | Calum | AA A321t F seat between JFK & LAX (FARE GONE)
16JUL | £0.57/TP | £554 | 980 | LAX-LAS-PHX-PHL-CLT-TPA-MIA-PTY-MIA-PHL-PHX-LAS-LAX | PPPPPPIIPPPP | aa.com | Airprox | AA + US
27JUL | £0.80/TP | £15.94 | 20 | VVC-BOG-MDE | A | lan.com | JohnnyColombia | A is economy on LA | LA
08NOV | £0.84/TP | £772.50 | 920 | KOA-LAX-CLT-SJU-CLT-LAX-KOA | AAIIAA | aa.com | Lappe | Same day turnarounds available
30SEP | £0.87/TP | £808.00 | 920 | BOG-MIA-LAX-HNL-LAX-MIA-BOG | I-P-P-P-P-I | aa.com | JohnnyColombia | No comments
20SEP | £1.00/TP | £663.20 | 660 | LGA-BOS-LAX-PHX-LAX-BOS-LGA | P-P-P-P-P-P | americanairlines.co.uk | njf63 | TCON on 737 so not too comfortable but good availability next Mar/Apr
21AUG | £1.05 | £253 | 240 | BOS-PHL-PIT-PHL-BOS | PPPP | aa.com | Simon Schus | AA op by US
02NOV | £1.27/TP | £1250 | 980 | MCO-MIA-LAX-HNL | A | AA | Mr 1A
05AUG | £1.37/TP | £578 | 420 | LAS-PHL-LAS | A/P | aa.com | Lucanesque | First | AA op by US
28JUL | £1.43/TP | £400 | 280 | SCL-IPC-SCL | Z | lan.com - Chilean version | moonman85 | 787 flat bed | LAN
06NOV | £1.67/TP | £66.00 | 40 | JFK-YYZ | Z | tam.com.br | frb98mf | Fifth Freedom flight every Wed/Fri/Sun, 767 flat bed
13NOV | £1.06/TP | £705 | 660 | RIC-CLT-PHL-PHX-PHL-CLT-RIC | A | AA.com | wenzlydale | 2 trips this year - mixture of A320s and B757s not a lot of food offered but all the G&Ts you could wish for
07JAN|£1.24/TP | £668 | 540 | SEA-MIA-ATL-CLT-SEA | P/P/P/P | aa.com | EsherFlyer | 24h transcon bounce. All I could fit in...
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
18AUG | £1.25/TP | £440.00 | 360 | BKK-KUL-ICN Return | Z | www.malaysiaairlines.com | Wozza2404 | A330 Angle Flat for long haul sectors | MH
12OCT | £1.68/TP | £1,546 | 920 | TLV-MAD-LHR-JFK-LAX-JFK-LHR-MAD-TLV | I/I/I/I/I/I/I | iberia.com | frb98mf | Business (bonus: A330/A340 on the TLV legs!) | IB
24NOV | £1.43/TP | £803 | 560 | CTS-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | zeltergiset | One 24hr+ stopover in HKG allowed | CX
06JAN | £1.86/TP | £856 | 460 | HND-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | Gastrocnemius | One 24hr+ stopover in HKG allowed | CX
11JAN | £1.26/TP | £707 | 560 | KTM-KUL-TPE-KUL-KTM | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
11JAN | £1.68/TP | £940 | 560 | TPE-KUL-KTM-KUL-TPE | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
From Africa
11AUG | £0.89/TP | £748 | 840 | ACC-LHR-MIA-LAX-MIA-LHR-ACC | I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I | iberia call centre | njf63 | CW / AA J | IB
15NOV | £2.00/TP | £1200 | 600 | CPT-DOH-JFK-DOH-CPT | I/I/I/I | QR Website | Calum | QR J on the B788/A350 & 46hrs of flying | QR
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Prospero's guide to using ITA matrix in post 3 (here along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or less
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year)
Or a slightly more interesting fun run
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VLL via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520
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Historic information
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
BA Tier Point Runs | 2015 master thread
Jul 5, 2015, 5:25 pm
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Does anyone happen to have a copy of the fare rules for the IL28SALE ex-DUB to HNL fare from ~27th January please? (As referenced here http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24016769-post6710.html). Booked under the AA version of the fare if it makes any difference.
Trying to figure out if it's possible to change the outbound departure date before I call the airline.
Trying to figure out if it's possible to change the outbound departure date before I call the airline.
if changing inbound (or other non-outbound components), reprice based on historical fares
Full rules as in effect on 27 Jan
Code:
Rule Category Rule Text
RULE APPLICATION AND OTHER CONDITIONS NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT
VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
FIRST/BUSINESS CLASS TRANSATLANTIC FARES
APPLICATION
CLASS OF SERVICE
THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST/BUSINESS CLASS SERVICE.
TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
ONE-WAY/ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.
THE TICKET IS INVALID IF FLIGHT COUPONS ARE NOT
USED IN SEQUENCE.
FARE DOES NOT APPLY FOR REFUND CALCULATION AFTER
TRAVEL AT A HIGHER FARE
PASSENGER EXPENCES NOT ABSORBED BY CARRIER.
CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS
CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY
THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE
AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS,
WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN
FLIGHT, WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIERS BEST
JUDGEMENT.
LEVEL- ARE NOT SUBJECT TO CAPACITY CONTROL.
ELIGIBILITY NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
DAY/TIME NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
SEASONALITY PERMITTED 23DEC14 THROUGH 02JAN15 OR 27MAR15 THROUGH
12APR15 ON THE FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR SEASON IS
BASED ON DATE OF ORIGIN.
OR - PERMITTED 01JUL15 THROUGH 31AUG15 SEASON IS BASED
ON DATE OF ORIGIN.
OR - PERMITTED 22NOV15 THROUGH 30NOV15 ON THE FIRST
INTERNATIONAL SECTOR. SEASON IS BASED ON DATE OF
ORIGIN.
FLIGHT APPLICATION THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY KF
ANY LX FLIGHT OPERATED BY KF
ANY SK FLIGHT OPERATED BY KF
ANY SN FLIGHT OPERATED BY KF
ANY TG FLIGHT OPERATED BY KF
ANY FB FLIGHT.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY EI
ANY EI FLIGHT OPERATED BY EI.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
US FLIGHTS 0001 THROUGH 0399
US FLIGHTS 0900 THROUGH 1699
US FLIGHTS 2200 THROUGH 2674
US FLIGHTS 2975 THROUGH 3199
US FLIGHTS 3525 THROUGH 3699
US FLIGHTS 4400 THROUGH 4499
US FLIGHTS 4800 THROUGH 9999.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY B6 FLIGHT.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY 9B FLIGHT.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AP FLIGHT OPERATED BY AF
AP FLIGHTS 1621 THROUGH 1632
AZ FLIGHTS 2400 THROUGH 3999
AZ FLIGHTS 7000 THROUGH 7999.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY VY FLIGHT
ANY IB FLIGHT OPERATED BY VY.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY EY FLIGHT.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN LON
AND MIA ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA.
ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT
LEAST 14 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE.
WAITLIST AND STANDBY NOT PERMITTED.
TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 3 DAYS AFTER
RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 14 DAYS BEFORE
DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
DUE TO TTL ROBOT PROCESS DIFFERENCES MAY EXIST
BETWEEN THE CRS LAST TICKETING DATE AND TTL
ROBOT REMARK.
THE INFORMATION BY SSR IN THE PNR PREVAILS.
MINIMUM STAY TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE
NO EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE
OUTBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
MAXIMUM STAY TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN
MIDNIGHT 12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
STOPOVERS NO STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT.
TRANSFERS 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION.
2 PERMITTED IN EUROPE IN EACH DIRECTION.
AND - 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION.
1 PERMITTED BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND AS
IN LAX/PDX/SEA IN EACH DIRECTION
1 PERMITTED BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND HA
IN HAWAII IN EACH DIRECTION
2 PERMITTED VIA AA/AY/BA/IB/US ONLY IN
NORTH AMERICA IN EACH DIRECTION.
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND
EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE
COMPONENT.
COMBINATIONS END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH DOMESTIC
FARES FROM/TO NORTH AMERICA. VALIDATE ALL FARE
COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED WITH NO
RESTRICTIONS.
END-ON-END NOTE -
ADD-ONS PERMITTED.
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH US-CANADA
TRANSBORDER FARES. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS.
SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED WITH NO RESTRICTIONS.
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH INTERNATIONAL
FARES. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS
PERMITTED WITH NO RESTRICTIONS. FARES MUST BE SHOWN
SEPARATELY ON THE TICKET.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER AA/BA/IB/AY/US.
OPEN JAWS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED. MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/
LESS THAN MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE
COMPONENT.
PROVIDED -
WHEN THE OPEN SEGMENT OCCURS
-WITHIN NORTH AMERICA OR WITHIN EUROPE
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER AA/BA/
IB/AY/US IN RULE 7097/7098/7099/7100/8005/9999 IN
TARIFF
ATMAAR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL
OR ANY RULE IN TARIFF
IPRA - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2
IPRAI - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL
IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2
VIA ATL
IPRSAA3 - SOUTH ATLANTIC/CENTRAL/SOUTH AMERICA/
MEXICO/CARIBBEAN/GREENLAND/ST PIERRE ET MIQUELON -
AREA 3.
ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS EXCEPT FOR AROUND-THE-WORLD
FARES
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER AA/BA/
IB/AY/US IN RULE 7097/7098/7099/7100/8005 IN
TARIFF
ATMAAR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL
OR ANY RULE IN TARIFF
IPRA - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2
IPRAI - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL
IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2
VIA ATL
IPRSAA3 - SOUTH ATLANTIC/CENTRAL/SOUTH AMERICA/
MEXICO/CARIBBEAN/GREENLAND/ST PIERRE ET MIQUELON -
AREA 3.
OPEN JAWS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED. MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/
LESS THAN MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE
COMPONENT.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER AA/US
IN RULE 7097/7098/7099/7100/8005 IN TARIFF
ATMAAR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL
OR ANY RULE IN TARIFF
IPRA - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2
IPRAI - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL
IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2
VIA ATL
IPRSAA3 - SOUTH ATLANTIC/CENTRAL/SOUTH AMERICA/
MEXICO/CARIBBEAN/GREENLAND/ST PIERRE ET MIQUELON -
AREA 3.
BLACKOUT DATES NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.
SURCHARGES IF INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2.
OR - CONTRACT BULK INFANT PSGR UNDER 2.
OR - MILITARY INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 2.
OR - NEGOTIATED INFANT PSGR UNDER 2.
OR - INCLUSIVE TOUR INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2.
THERE IS NO MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE PER COUPON
PER ANY PASSENGER.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
SURCHARGES DO NOT APPLY TO INFANT PASSENGERS
NOT OCCUPYING A SEAT.
THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AA OR US.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AA OR BA.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AA OR IB.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AA OR AY.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AA OR JL.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AA OR QF.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AA OR LX.
AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF USD 1.75 PER COUPON
WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY
PASSENGER FOR DEPARTURE FROM/TO/VIA MEXICO.
AND - THERE IS NO MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE PER
COUPON PER ANY PASSENGER.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
YR FEE MAY APPLY
OTHERWISE
AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF USD 1.75 PER COUPON
WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY
PASSENGER FOR DEPARTURE FROM/TO/VIA MEXICO.
AND - ORIGINATING AREA 1 -
MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 428.00 PER
COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER
ANY PASSENGER FOR DEPARTURE OF TRANSATLANTIC
SECTORS.
AND - ORIGINATING EUROPE -
MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF EUR 238.00 PER
COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER
ANY PASSENGER FOR DEPARTURE OF TRANSATLANTIC
SECTORS.
ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.
TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/AFTER 15JAN15 AND ON/
BEFORE 17JAN16.
SALES RESTRICTIONS FOOTNOTE RULE
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/AFTER 18DEC14 AND ON/BEFORE
27JAN15.
FARE RULE
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING.
EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY IS NOT PERMITTED.
TICKETS MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA.
TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA 1/AREA 2/AREA 3.
PENALTIES CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF CANCEL/NO-SHOW/
REFUND.
WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE/DEATH OF PASSENGER
OR FAMILY MEMBER.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
WAIVER ALSO APPLIES FOR TRAVELING COMPANION.
------------------------------------------------
WHEN COMBINING FARES THAT HAVE CANCELLATION FEES
THE HIGHEST CANCELLATION FEE OF EACH CANCELLED
PRICING UNIT APPLIES.
WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTION-
WHEN COMBINING A REFUNDABLE FARE WITH A NON-
REFUNDABLE FARE
1- THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE REFUNDABLE FARE
COMPONENT IS REFUNDED LESS APPLICABLE PENALTY
2- THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHARGE EUR 300.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE/DEATH OF PASSENGER
OR FAMILY MEMBER.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
WAIVER ALSO APPLIES FOR TRAVELING COMPANION.
NO CHD DISCOUNT / INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT - 10 PCT.
-----
THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION AND PERSON.
A CHANGE IS A ROUTING / OR DATE / OR FLIGHT
MODIFICATION.
CHANGE IS PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY OF
ORIGINAL TICKET.
THE ORIGINAL NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS
NON-REFUNDABLE.
--------------------------------------------------
WHERE THIS FARE IS COMBINED WITH ANOTHER FARE AND
ONLY ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE PENALTY
CONDITIONS OF THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENT WILL
APPLY.
WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS BEING CHANGED
THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
WILL APPLY.
--------------------------------------------------
IN CASE OF UPGRADE TO A HIGHER FARE OR IF THE
ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE DIFFERENCE
WILL BE COLLECTED -AND- THE CHANGE FEE WILL BE
APPLIED.
--------------------------------------------------
WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE THE
CHANGE FEE APPLIES AND THERE IS NO REFUND HOWEVE
R THE DIFFERENCE IN FARE WILL BE RETURNED TO THE P
ASSENGER IN THE FORM OF A NON-REFUNDABLE TRAVEL VO
UCHER WHICH MAY BE APPLIED TOWARDS THE PURCHASE OF
A TICKET VALID FOR TRANSPORTATION GOVERNED BY AA
ONLY.
--------------------------------------------------
REISSUE/REVALIDATION MUST BE MADE AT THE SAME TIME
THE RESERVATION IS CHANGED.
--------------------------------------------------
CALCULATION FOR REISSUES
//CHANGES BEFORE OUTBOUND DEPARTURE//
WHEN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE
ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN
EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED.
-----
WHEN THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE FIRST FARE
COMPONENT BUT OTHER FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED
THE ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR
CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE OF TICKET
REISSUE WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
--------------------------------------------------
//CHANGES AFTER DEPARTURE//
THE ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
--------------------------------------------------
THE NEW ITINERARY MUST MEET ALL RULE PROVISIONS
OF THE NEWLY TICKETED FARE - I.E. ADVANCE
RESERVATIONS/TICKETING DEADLINE/MINIMUM/MAXIMUM
STAY/BOOKING CLASS/SEASONALITY ETC.
HIP/MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS NO HIP OR MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS APPLY.
TICKET ENDORSEMENTS THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED
- NONREF/RESTRICTIONS APPLY - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.
CHILDREN DISCOUNTS CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT
OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 100
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
OR - INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 10
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-14 - CHARGE 100
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN 5 6 AND 7 YEARS OF AGE WILL
ONLY BE TRANSPORTED OVER THE LINES OF AA NON-STOP
OR THROUGH PLANE SERVICE.
TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS TUR/TOUR CONDUCTOR PSGR - NO DISCOUNT.
AGENT DISCOUNTS AGT/AGENT PSGR - NO DISCOUNT.
ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS SRC/SENIOR CITIZEN PSGR 62 OR OLDER - NO
DISCOUNT.
MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS THIS FARE MUST NOT BE USED TO CALCULATE A
DIFFERENTIAL.
FARE BY RULE NOT APPLICABLE.
GROUPS NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.
TOURS NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.
VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.
DEPOSITS NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.
VOLUNTARY CHANGES IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS
BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
BY THOSE OF AA INTERNATIONAL FARES
CHARGE EUR 300.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
COMPONENTS - INFANT W/O SEAT DISCOUNTS APPLY AND
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FARE COMPONENT
2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
MUST BE DOMESTIC
3. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
OR -
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
MUST BE DOMESTIC
2. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
3. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL
FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND - REFUND VIA
VOUCHER
ENDORSEMENT BOX - NEW ENDORSEMENTS.
OR -
BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
BY THOSE OF AA INTERNATIONAL FARES
NO CHARGE CHARGE HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
COMPONENTS - INFANT W/O SEAT DISCOUNTS APPLY AND
CHANGES NOT PERMITTED/REFUND TKT-ANY REMAINING AMT
WILL APPLY TO NEW TKT
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL
FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND
ENDORSEMENT BOX - NEW ENDORSEMENTS.
OR -
AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
BY THOSE OF AA INTERNATIONAL FARES
CHARGE EUR 300.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
COMPONENTS - INFANT W/O SEAT DISCOUNTS APPLY AND
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
MUST BE DOMESTIC
2. FULLY FLOWN FARE MAY BE REPRICED TO FURTHER
POINT - PROVIDED ONE POINT ON PREVIOUS TKT IS
RETAINED
3. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL
FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND - REFUND VIA
VOUCHER
ENDORSEMENT BOX - NEW ENDORSEMENTS.
OR -
AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
BY THOSE OF AA INTERNATIONAL FARES
NO CHARGE CHARGE HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
COMPONENTS - INFANT W/O SEAT DISCOUNTS APPLY AND
CHANGES NOT PERMITTED/REFUND TKT-ANY REMAINING AMT
WILL APPLY TO NEW TKT
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL
FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND
ENDORSEMENT BOX - NEW ENDORSEMENTS.
OR -
BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
IN THE CASE OF DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER -
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
BY THOSE OF AA INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE HIGHEST FEE
OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON
2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
MUST BE DOMESTIC
3. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
OR -
REPRICE
A. BEFORE JOURNEY DEPARTURE USE FARES IN EFFECT
TODAY
B. AFTER JOURNEY DEPARTURE USE HISTORICAL FARES
BASED ON TRAVEL COMMENCEMENT
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
MUST BE DOMESTIC
2. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
3. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL
FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND
ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
ENDORSEMENTS.
OR -
AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
IN THE CASE OF DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER -
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
BY THOSE OF AA INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE HIGHEST FEE
OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON
2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
MUST BE DOMESTIC
3. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL
FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND
ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
ENDORSEMENTS.
.
VOLUNTARY REFUNDS NO VOLUNTARY REFUNDS DATA FOUND.
NEGOTIATED FARES NOT APPLICABLE.
INTERNATIONAL CONSTRUCTION NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE
.
Jul 6, 2015, 2:15 am
#3182
Join Date: May 2015
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Silver
Posts: 64
Hi all,
Not strictly a TP run, but I'm heading to Denver in November and am looking for ways of maximising my return whilst also minimising my costs (being the cheapskate I am). My only requirements are that I have to be in Denver from the 21-24th November, and have enough Avios to cover positioning flights. Could have extra days before/after those dates, so am flexible as to when I could travel.
So far, on my limited ITA knowledge, I'm not really finding anything for much less than about £1.8-2k - I can go WT+ for ~£750 (DUB-LHR-DEN), but that won't maximise TPs as the better route would probably be DUB-PHL-DEN I'm guessing?
If I couldn't get CW both ways then ideally I'd like it for the flight back to have a lie-flat bed, but the outbound will be a day flight so WT+ is fine really. If any wizards out there are able to find anything then I would be most appreciative!
Not strictly a TP run, but I'm heading to Denver in November and am looking for ways of maximising my return whilst also minimising my costs (being the cheapskate I am). My only requirements are that I have to be in Denver from the 21-24th November, and have enough Avios to cover positioning flights. Could have extra days before/after those dates, so am flexible as to when I could travel.
So far, on my limited ITA knowledge, I'm not really finding anything for much less than about £1.8-2k - I can go WT+ for ~£750 (DUB-LHR-DEN), but that won't maximise TPs as the better route would probably be DUB-PHL-DEN I'm guessing?
If I couldn't get CW both ways then ideally I'd like it for the flight back to have a lie-flat bed, but the outbound will be a day flight so WT+ is fine really. If any wizards out there are able to find anything then I would be most appreciative!
Jul 6, 2015, 4:01 am
#3183
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: North East
Programs: Hilton HHonors, BAEC Silver
Posts: 1,204
Unfortunately your dates fall just outside the exDUB ILR28AP promotional fares, which is why you are seeing the prices you are. These dates are for outbound travel between 23rd-30th November, and have fares for circa £1250 rtn CW via PHL.
I think in this instance, as you require to be there between fixed dates, I would book the WTP rtn for £750 exLHR, and hope for a POUG or AUP on the return leg. If you require more TP's, could you look into incorporating a run while stateside. For instance, open jaw WTP ticket LHR-DEN/MIA-LHR, and then book DEN-LAX-MIA (25th Nov for £325 @ £1.20 per TP). This would give you a minimum of 450TP's for £1075. Not a fantastic return, but worth perhaps considering as you will be date restricted as far as sales go on the outbound. Good luck
I think in this instance, as you require to be there between fixed dates, I would book the WTP rtn for £750 exLHR, and hope for a POUG or AUP on the return leg. If you require more TP's, could you look into incorporating a run while stateside. For instance, open jaw WTP ticket LHR-DEN/MIA-LHR, and then book DEN-LAX-MIA (25th Nov for £325 @ £1.20 per TP). This would give you a minimum of 450TP's for £1075. Not a fantastic return, but worth perhaps considering as you will be date restricted as far as sales go on the outbound. Good luck
Jul 6, 2015, 5:01 am
#3184
Join Date: May 2015
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Silver
Posts: 64
Unfortunately your dates fall just outside the exDUB ILR28AP promotional fares, which is why you are seeing the prices you are. These dates are for outbound travel between 23rd-30th November, and have fares for circa £1250 rtn CW via PHL.
I think in this instance, as you require to be there between fixed dates, I would book the WTP rtn for £750 exLHR, and hope for a POUG or AUP on the return leg. If you require more TP's, could you look into incorporating a run while stateside. For instance, open jaw WTP ticket LHR-DEN/MIA-LHR, and then book DEN-LAX-MIA (25th Nov for £325 @ £1.20 per TP). This would give you a minimum of 450TP's for £1075. Not a fantastic return, but worth perhaps considering as you will be date restricted as far as sales go on the outbound. Good luck
I think in this instance, as you require to be there between fixed dates, I would book the WTP rtn for £750 exLHR, and hope for a POUG or AUP on the return leg. If you require more TP's, could you look into incorporating a run while stateside. For instance, open jaw WTP ticket LHR-DEN/MIA-LHR, and then book DEN-LAX-MIA (25th Nov for £325 @ £1.20 per TP). This would give you a minimum of 450TP's for £1075. Not a fantastic return, but worth perhaps considering as you will be date restricted as far as sales go on the outbound. Good luck
Jul 6, 2015, 5:31 am
#3185
Join Date: Nov 2009
Programs: BAEC Silver
Posts: 226
I'm going to need about 600 tier points to reach CCR card + GGL. My year expires on 8 September, but due to other travel I can only do this from about 1 September. Any suggestions? I want to keep the time away from home as short as possible, and keep it cheap if possible. I'm thinking maybe an ex EU QR flight to Asia in business (netting 560 points), with a BA positioning flight for the rest of the points.
Jul 6, 2015, 6:40 pm
#3186
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Munich, Algarve, Sussex or S.F Bay Area
Programs: Mucci, BA Gold, A3*Gold, AA Plat, HH Gold, IHG Plat Amb, Marriott Plat
Posts: 4,164
Finnair has a J sale on from Germany.
BKK IN J r/t for EUR 1,485 which is currently only about £1,060.
BKK IN J r/t for EUR 1,485 which is currently only about £1,060.
Jul 7, 2015, 5:47 am
#3187
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold, Subcard
Posts: 435
I need 630 tier points.
I have done a dublin tier point run to the US before so would like to try something different.
I have priced up Casablanca - JFK with QR in Business for £1165 and flights with IB to CMN from LHR are £150ish
Would I be correct in thinking this would be 10+10+140+160+160+140+10+10 = 640 Tier Points for £1315?
I have done a dublin tier point run to the US before so would like to try something different.
I have priced up Casablanca - JFK with QR in Business for £1165 and flights with IB to CMN from LHR are £150ish
Would I be correct in thinking this would be 10+10+140+160+160+140+10+10 = 640 Tier Points for £1315?
Jul 7, 2015, 6:01 am
#3188
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Gloucestershire
Programs: BA Gold (ex-GGL, maybe future Silver), Hilton Diamond
Posts: 6,201
I think it would depend on the IB flights - you might easily only get 5 per leg depending on the fare bucket and, at that price to CMN that's all I'd expect. Still that would leave you at silver even if you only flew redemptions for the rest of your TP year - and you'd get the four qualifying filghts in as well.
Jul 7, 2015, 6:03 am
#3189
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Gloucestershire
Programs: BA Gold (ex-GGL, maybe future Silver), Hilton Diamond
Posts: 6,201
Probably a better deal for travellers but for TP runners that's 'only' 360 TP round trip + positioning flights. Unless you could do something like MAN - HEL - TXL in J as a positioning flight you'd be short, and given that £1060 isn't far off a QR return price ex-Scandinavia then I'd struggle to see it being cost effective.
Jul 7, 2015, 6:14 am
#3190
Join Date: Feb 2009
Programs: Mucci, BA, Hilton.
Posts: 1,158
Not sure this is the right place but I see a lot of BA flights ex Germany at €1400 to HKG. works out around £2.77 per point. I am sure someone else has pointed that out though.
Last edited by MickV; Jul 7, 2015 at 7:01 am
Jul 7, 2015, 6:24 am
#3191
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold, Subcard
Posts: 435
I think it would depend on the IB flights - you might easily only get 5 per leg depending on the fare bucket and, at that price to CMN that's all I'd expect. Still that would leave you at silver even if you only flew redemptions for the rest of your TP year - and you'd get the four qualifying filghts in as well.
Just want to come up with something a bit different to get the 630 tier points.
Jul 7, 2015, 6:54 am
#3192
Join Date: Oct 2005
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Programs: BA & QR
Posts: 1,014
MickV
Thx, that's a good fare.
If travelling via Sin vv more TP's and cheaper per TP.
And 2 stopovers allowed both ways.
Thx, that's a good fare.
If travelling via Sin vv more TP's and cheaper per TP.
And 2 stopovers allowed both ways.
Jul 7, 2015, 9:01 am
#3193
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Kent / Hertfordshire / London
Programs: BA Silver (clawing back to Gold!), Honours Gold, IHG Platinum, MLife Gold, Caesars Diamond
Posts: 137
Hi All
I've read through some of the history here, but most things I've stumbled across that might fit have expired, I think... hoping I've missed something - any suggestions for a run to give me another 350TP? I'm in London, but positioning flights are doable. Any inspiration appreciated.
I've read through some of the history here, but most things I've stumbled across that might fit have expired, I think... hoping I've missed something - any suggestions for a run to give me another 350TP? I'm in London, but positioning flights are doable. Any inspiration appreciated.
Jul 7, 2015, 9:54 am
#3194
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: UK
Programs: BAEC Gold, HH Diamond, IHG Diamond
Posts: 255
I need to get from LAS to TPA at the end of March next year and then from TPA to SEA mid May. As such this isn't a TP run but I'm looking to maximise TPs.
I've come up with LAS-LAX-MIA-TPA (A/A/P) and then TPA-MIA-LAX-PHX-SEA (P/P/P/P) all on US flight numbers but all bar one segment operated by AA.
The cost is $1,602 or $1,642 depending on whether I take the 737 over night to MIA.
I calculate this to be 720 TPs (60+210+60+60+210+60+60) unless there is a devaluation before then!
As I'm still very far from proficient on Matrix ITA I'd like to pick the brains of the experts on here to ask if there are any alternative routings which provide a similar number of TPs/$ ratio.
I've come up with LAS-LAX-MIA-TPA (A/A/P) and then TPA-MIA-LAX-PHX-SEA (P/P/P/P) all on US flight numbers but all bar one segment operated by AA.
The cost is $1,602 or $1,642 depending on whether I take the 737 over night to MIA.
I calculate this to be 720 TPs (60+210+60+60+210+60+60) unless there is a devaluation before then!
As I'm still very far from proficient on Matrix ITA I'd like to pick the brains of the experts on here to ask if there are any alternative routings which provide a similar number of TPs/$ ratio.
Jul 7, 2015, 11:24 am
#3195
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Gold, IHG Spire Ambassador, Starbucks Gold,
Posts: 624
Hi All
I've read through some of the history here, but most things I've stumbled across that might fit have expired, I think... hoping I've missed something - any suggestions for a run to give me another 350TP? I'm in London, but positioning flights are doable. Any inspiration appreciated.
I've read through some of the history here, but most things I've stumbled across that might fit have expired, I think... hoping I've missed something - any suggestions for a run to give me another 350TP? I'm in London, but positioning flights are doable. Any inspiration appreciated.
Any info on budget or timings? There are many ways to get 350TP....!
MrMutton