Is BA about to devalue Avios?
Aug 24, 2014, 8:16 pm
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Aug 24, 2014, 8:31 pm
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Thanks HIDDY. It sounds like part of IB's Avios goes towards covering the taxes in that case, and in BA's case, the passenger seems to be paying more in cash "in return for" the lower Avios amount charged.
They do seem to be operating from a different 'cash/Avios' model and the Avios difference makes sense (at least somewhat!) in this particular case.
They do seem to be operating from a different 'cash/Avios' model and the Avios difference makes sense (at least somewhat!) in this particular case.
Aug 24, 2014, 8:44 pm
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BA already knows that without FFers and giving them benefits, it couldn't make a profit.
. So don't feel any guilt about getting good deals as part of FF benefits.
Aug 24, 2014, 8:47 pm
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Assuming they are going to devalue, they almost certainly have taken that into account. The people who make these decisions aren't dumb. It may be that their internal numbers tell them that people who will do as you plan to, aren't numerous enough to make a big difference one way or the other.
Aug 24, 2014, 9:03 pm
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Thanks HIDDY. It sounds like part of IB's Avios goes towards covering the taxes in that case, and in BA's case, the passenger seems to be paying more in cash "in return for" the lower Avios amount charged.
They do seem to be operating from a different 'cash/Avios' model and the Avios difference makes sense (at least somewhat!) in this particular case.
They do seem to be operating from a different 'cash/Avios' model and the Avios difference makes sense (at least somewhat!) in this particular case.
For me from what I see there's nothing to worry about......yet.
Aug 24, 2014, 10:05 pm
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Aug 24, 2014, 10:09 pm
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If BA decides to use the new Iberia chart for its own BA programme that will be a severe deval to many Chase cardholders who don't want to pay the absurd "Fuel surcharges" required by the 241 cert.
OTOH if many of the card churners dump Chase that will mean more inventory for the rest of us. Always look for the silver lining
Aug 24, 2014, 10:13 pm
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AA9 JFK to LAX, Oct 14, 37,500 Avios plus $5 in First.
As this is a long flight, these numbers are just as before.
AA1232 SFO to LAX, Oct 14, 13,500 Avios plus $5 in First.
Again these are the so far existing numbers. Nothing has changed on the BA side yet.
Aug 24, 2014, 10:14 pm
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I nowhere convinced it is just the Chase card holders, who have led to the drying up of redemptions from the West coast. Much more likely that BA just has released less seats.
Aug 24, 2014, 10:24 pm
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AA171 JFK to LAX, Oct 14, 12,500 Avios plus $5 in Economy.
AA9 JFK to LAX, Oct 14, 37,500 Avios plus $5 in First.
As this is a long flight, these numbers are just as before.
AA1232 SFO to LAX, Oct 14, 13,500 Avios plus $5 in First.
Again these are the so far existing numbers. Nothing has changed on the BA side yet.
AA9 JFK to LAX, Oct 14, 37,500 Avios plus $5 in First.
As this is a long flight, these numbers are just as before.
AA1232 SFO to LAX, Oct 14, 13,500 Avios plus $5 in First.
Again these are the so far existing numbers. Nothing has changed on the BA side yet.
Aug 24, 2014, 10:28 pm
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Aug 24, 2014, 11:53 pm
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Wishful thinking to believe that reducing demand for BA award tickets for flights on partner metal will benefit BA customers wanting to fly BA on BA award tickets. This isn't about awarding you or me more, unless perhaps you or I are an IAG company shareholder/employee (or relative of such) more than a BA customer.
Aug 25, 2014, 12:14 am
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I wonder if it has something to do with me not able to see the avios calculator.
I keep getting this message for the past three days:
"Unfortunately our systems are not responding, so we are unable to process your request at the moment.
We apologise for this inconvenience and suggest you try again later."
I keep getting this message for the past three days:
"Unfortunately our systems are not responding, so we are unable to process your request at the moment.
We apologise for this inconvenience and suggest you try again later."
Aug 25, 2014, 12:36 am
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1. No devaluation announced for BA yet.
2. A devaluation is inevitable - to date it has been managed through tighter award inventory, and though it is feasible that this (form of devaluation) could continue I would expect a similiar change to IB (either less avios given out or the redemption levels to be increased) in the future.
2. A devaluation is inevitable - to date it has been managed through tighter award inventory, and though it is feasible that this (form of devaluation) could continue I would expect a similiar change to IB (either less avios given out or the redemption levels to be increased) in the future.
