Is BA about to devalue Avios?
Aug 24, 2014, 5:39 pm
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Used to be my go to card when traveling internationally... if they devalue, I will use an alternate international cc. I understand the devaluation - but they should take into account the loss of revenues from all the people who will do like me and stop using their card as much (or at all).
Aug 24, 2014, 5:57 pm
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Used to be my go to card when traveling internationally... if they devalue, I will use an alternate international cc. I understand the devaluation - but they should take into account the loss of revenues from all the people who will do like me and stop using their card as much (or at all).
Aug 24, 2014, 5:57 pm
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I made an MH short haul booking for next May just now, just in case.
Although I would understand BA making changes to the short haul partner redemptions, the levels IB has come out with are, in many cases, higher than what almost every other program would charge for a similar redemption - and almost all of these other programs allow connections, while this chart indicates non stops only. If BA move in this direction, its extremely low value and not at all competitive.
Although I would understand BA making changes to the short haul partner redemptions, the levels IB has come out with are, in many cases, higher than what almost every other program would charge for a similar redemption - and almost all of these other programs allow connections, while this chart indicates non stops only. If BA move in this direction, its extremely low value and not at all competitive.
Aug 24, 2014, 6:11 pm
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If you're based in the uk, join baec. Based in the us, join aa. Based in japan, join jal.
Ba's revenues from selling miles is tiny compared with selling seats to last minute business flyers. In 2009 passenger Revenue was 7800 million, cargo about 600, and all other revenue 400, of which selling miles is a fraction.
Ba's revenues from selling miles is tiny compared with selling seats to last minute business flyers. In 2009 passenger Revenue was 7800 million, cargo about 600, and all other revenue 400, of which selling miles is a fraction.
Aug 24, 2014, 6:21 pm
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Is BA about to devalue Avios?
The Iberia table - correct me if I'm wrong - shows that a number of long haul premium redemptions are actually cheaper using the new table?
It's late...I may be wrong.
It's late...I may be wrong.
Aug 24, 2014, 6:25 pm
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Quite. I don't see how BA's aggressive targeting of US consumers to join BAEC via Chase and the like makes strategic sense. It willl maybe bring in $10-20M a year in side business, but considering the disquiet on here and the number of posters presumably comfortably in the £50K+ personal spend level, that benefit starts looking questionable pretty quickly.
Aug 24, 2014, 6:29 pm
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Good move. These awards are such good value it couldn't last forever. Perhaps all the Chase 100K windfall recipients who cry about not being able to get BA longhaul F awards without big scamcharges should be cashing in now on these North American short haul awards while they still can.
Aug 24, 2014, 6:31 pm
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Aug 24, 2014, 6:34 pm
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Aug 24, 2014, 6:37 pm
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Of course that would also hit AA,DL and UA as well if I'm not mistaken
Aug 24, 2014, 6:40 pm
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Of course, I have to believe that it "costs" BA a lot more than the value of 4500 miles to buy all those tickets from AA and US.
Aug 24, 2014, 6:42 pm
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