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Old Jan 1, 2014, 6:10 am
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If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:

        * Please update wiki if you know of any others.
        ** Origin of data concealed


        What do the codes mean?
        Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

        This means:
        There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
        There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
        There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
        The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

        There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
        1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

        2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.

        What does the "C" mean?
        Closed to waitlisting.
        In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

        The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.

        Differences for non-BA airlines
        • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
        • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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        Old Feb 14, 2016, 8:51 am
          #2551  
         
        Join Date: Oct 2015
        Programs: BA Gold for Life
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        Originally Posted by maasman12
        Hi could someone please check
        KL 0682 from YVR to AMS on feb 17, 2016. Thanks a bunch!
        Although not relevant to the BA site the US position on Expertflyer is:

        J9 C9 D9 I9 Z9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 K9 H9 L9 Q9 T9 E0 N9 R9 V9 G0 X9
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        Old Feb 14, 2016, 11:00 pm
          #2552  
         
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        Hi everyone. Would someone please check loads for me on the following flights? TIA!

        UA 872: TPE-SFO 2/21/16
        UA 528: SFO-IAH 2/21/16
        UA 1593: IAH-RSW 2/21/16

        Thanks again.
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        Old Feb 15, 2016, 1:26 am
          #2553  
         
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        Hi

        Please can someone check

        BA125 - LHR-BAH 21st Feb

        Thanks
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        Old Feb 15, 2016, 1:51 am
          #2554  
         
        Join Date: Aug 2015
        Programs: BA Gold, IHG Spire Amb, HH Diamond
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        Am I right in thinking this thread is really only for BA/OW flights? The amount of requests for other airlines lately has really increased.

        Originally Posted by Castle25
        BA125 - LHR-BAH 21st Feb
        From the UK POS:

        BA 125, 02/21/16: F9 A9 J9 C5 D4 R1 IC W2 EC TC Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
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        Old Feb 15, 2016, 1:51 am
          #2555  
         
        Join Date: Jan 2015
        Location: UK
        Programs: BAEC
        Posts: 1,183
        Hi,

        Would someone be able to check 3 flights for me to find out how busy Economy is:

        BA11 – 20.02.2016 – LHR to SIN

        BA16 – 05.03.2016 – SYD to LHR

        EK407 – 02.03.2016 – AKL to MEL

        Many thanks as ever.
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        Old Feb 15, 2016, 2:13 am
          #2556  
         
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        Originally Posted by londonba2014
        Hi,

        Would someone be able to check 3 flights for me to find out how busy Economy is:

        BA11 20.02.2016 LHR to SIN

        BA16 05.03.2016 SYD to LHR

        EK407 02.03.2016 AKL to MEL

        Many thanks as ever.
        Here you go:

        BA 11
        LHR 02/20/16 7:05 PM
        SIN 02/21/16 3:55 PM
        388
        F1 A0 J5 C0 W1 Y9 B2 H0 K0 M0 G0

        BA 16
        SYD 03/05/16 4:30 PM
        LHR 03/06/16 4:55 AM
        777
        F0 A0 J7 C0 W2 Y9 B3 M0 G0

        EK 407
        AKL 03/02/16 6:50 PM
        MEL 03/02/16 8:50 PM
        388
        F4 A4 J7 C7 I7 O7 P0 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9 B9 U9 K9 H0 Q0 L0 T0 V0 X0
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        Old Feb 15, 2016, 5:59 am
          #2557  
         
        Join Date: Jan 2015
        Location: UK
        Programs: BAEC
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        Originally Posted by Pilot37
        Here you go:

        BA 11
        LHR 02/20/16 7:05 PM
        SIN 02/21/16 3:55 PM
        388
        F1 A0 J5 C0 W1 Y9 B2 H0 K0 M0 G0

        BA 16
        SYD 03/05/16 4:30 PM
        LHR 03/06/16 4:55 AM
        777
        F0 A0 J7 C0 W2 Y9 B3 M0 G0

        EK 407
        AKL 03/02/16 6:50 PM
        MEL 03/02/16 8:50 PM
        388
        F4 A4 J7 C7 I7 O7 P0 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9 B9 U9 K9 H0 Q0 L0 T0 V0 X0
        Sorry, just to check I am reading it right - am I right in thinking the 2 BA flights are effectively full?
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        Old Feb 15, 2016, 7:34 am
          #2558  
         
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        Originally Posted by londonba2014
        Sorry, just to check I am reading it right - am I right in thinking the 2 BA flights are effectively full?
        Yeap! Basically nothing in First, a few seats in Club and a few in economy - but overall, a pretty packed plane on both sectors.

        Pilot37
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        Old Feb 15, 2016, 8:19 am
          #2559  
         
        Join Date: Jan 2016
        Posts: 9
        Anyone give me an economy load check on:

        Feb 17th
        BA 282 LAX - LHR

        Feb 22nd
        BA 269 LHR - LAX

        Thankyou!!
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        Old Feb 15, 2016, 8:24 am
          #2560  
         
        Join Date: Jul 2015
        Location: London
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        Originally Posted by bladeinoc
        Anyone give me an economy load check on:

        Feb 17th
        BA 282 LAX - LHR

        Feb 22nd
        BA 269 LHR - LAX

        Thankyou!!
        Here you go:

        BA 282
        LAX 02/17/16 4:05 PM
        LHR 02/18/16 10:40 AM
        777
        F2 A0 J9 C0 W9 E9 T5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9

        BA 269
        LHR 02/22/16 3:15 PM
        LAX 02/22/16 6:30 PM
        388
        F7 A5 J9 C9 D8 R5 W9 E9 T5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9

        Pilot37
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        Old Feb 15, 2016, 8:33 am
          #2561  
         
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        Originally Posted by Pilot37
        Here you go:

        BA 282
        LAX 02/17/16 4:05 PM
        LHR 02/18/16 10:40 AM
        777
        F2 A0 J9 C0 W9 E9 T5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9

        BA 269
        LHR 02/22/16 3:15 PM
        LAX 02/22/16 6:30 PM
        388
        F7 A5 J9 C9 D8 R5 W9 E9 T5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9

        Pilot37
        Awesome, thankyou
        bladeinoc is offline  
        Old Feb 15, 2016, 10:12 am
          #2562  
         
        Join Date: Dec 2013
        Programs: BA GCH
        Posts: 89
        Check please! (& Thanks).

        BA085 to YVR 18th March
        BA084 to LHR 21st March
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        Old Feb 15, 2016, 10:20 am
          #2563  
         
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        Location: London
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        Originally Posted by roarss
        Check please! (& Thanks).

        BA085 to YVR 18th March
        BA084 to LHR 21st March
        Here you go:

        BA 85
        LHR 03/18/16 5:25 PM
        YVR 03/18/16 8:00 PM
        744
        F3 A2 J9 C9 D9 R9 I6 W0 Y9 B9 M0 G0

        BA 84
        YVR 03/21/16 10:00 PM
        LHR 03/22/16 2:20 PM
        744
        F9 A7 J9 C9 D9 R8 I6 W9 E9 T6 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O1 G0

        Lots of space available on the way back it seems!

        Pilot37
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        Old Feb 15, 2016, 12:18 pm
          #2564  
         
        Join Date: Jan 2015
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        Originally Posted by Pilot37
        Yeap! Basically nothing in First, a few seats in Club and a few in economy - but overall, a pretty packed plane on both sectors.

        Pilot37
        Many Thanks - should be an interesting one...!
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        Old Feb 16, 2016, 2:19 am
          #2565  
         
        Join Date: Apr 2006
        Location: London
        Programs: BA bronze, Hertz pres circle, Marriott Platinum, hilton diamond
        Posts: 2,537
        Need the loads please!

        LHR-CMB 26/2/16

        UL504
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