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Old Jan 1, 2014, 6:10 am
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If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:

        * Please update wiki if you know of any others.
        ** Origin of data concealed


        What do the codes mean?
        Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

        This means:
        There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
        There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
        There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
        The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

        There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
        1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

        2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.

        What does the "C" mean?
        Closed to waitlisting.
        In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

        The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.

        Differences for non-BA airlines
        • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
        • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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        Old Feb 6, 2016, 3:12 pm
          #2521  
         
        Join Date: Jan 2007
        Location: living near Malaga
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        Hi...

        If someone has a moment could they please check the loading for BA33 to KL on the 10th of Feb and the BA34 return back to LHR on the 19th.

        I have 2 rtn J awards and been looking for F (either way) but with no joy. Any thoughts on the likely hood based on what all those letters/numbers actually mean?

        Cheers...
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        Old Feb 6, 2016, 3:31 pm
          #2522  
         
        Join Date: May 2006
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        According to KVS (which may be NL POS sorry)

        BA33 10/2
        F2 A2 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T8 Y7 B2 H2 K2 M2 L2 V3 S2 N1 QC OC GL

        Return 19/2
        FL AL J9 C6 D5 RC IC WL EC TC Y4 BL HC KC ML LC VC SC NC QC OC GL

        Chances look slim

        Last edited by Tiger_lily; Feb 6, 2016 at 3:38 pm
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        Old Feb 7, 2016, 3:18 am
          #2523  
        Formerly known as linzbh
         
        Join Date: Dec 2013
        Location: LON
        Programs: BAEC GGL, Hilton Diamond, Bonvoy Titanium
        Posts: 459
        can someone kindly check availability for the following flights?

        BA257 LHR-DEL 10/02
        BA142 DEL-LHR 14/02

        Booked into W and after looking for a few weeks I think chances of a UuA to J are very low!

        Last edited by flylikelinz; Feb 7, 2016 at 3:19 am Reason: added airport codes
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        Old Feb 7, 2016, 6:11 am
          #2524  
         
        Join Date: Aug 2012
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        Originally Posted by linzbh
        can someone kindly check availability for the following flights?

        BA257 LHR-DEL 10/02
        BA142 DEL-LHR 14/02

        Booked into W and after looking for a few weeks I think chances of a UuA to J are very low!
        The 257:

        F3 A2 J4 C1 DC RC IC W3 EC TC Y8 B5 H2 K2 M2 L2 V1 SC NC QC OC G0

        The 142:
        F9 A9 J9 C2 D2 R2 IC W9 EC TC Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V8 S6 N1 QC OC G0

        You've got more chance on the 142 than the 257 ... but I suspect it's unlikely on both.
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        Old Feb 7, 2016, 7:26 am
          #2525  
         
        Join Date: Jan 2009
        Location: scotland
        Programs: Ba gold,honours diamond,spg Platinum,Marriott Platium
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        Ba 2037 and Ba2039

        Could someone check club avaliablity on oct2 Lgw to Mco
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        Old Feb 7, 2016, 7:30 am
          #2526  
         
        Join Date: Aug 2012
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        Originally Posted by alexb1212
        Could someone check club avaliablity on oct2 Lgw to Mco
        All 9s:

        Results from ExpertFlyer.com
        Code:
        Flight Availability Search
        Departing LGW on 02/10/16 0:00 for MCO
        Flying BA  
        Point of Sale: UK
        
        
                                                                             Frequency
        Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
        0 Connections
        BA 2037       0      LGW                MCO                777       Unavailable     J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T4 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 NC QC OC G0 
                             02/10/16 11:20     02/10/16 15:35               79% / 17m
        
        0 Connections
        BA 2039       0      LGW                MCO                777       Unavailable     J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 QC OC G0 
                             02/10/16 13:55     02/10/16 18:15               71% / 22m
        Genuine question though - what are you hoping to work out this far out?
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        Old Feb 7, 2016, 9:29 am
          #2527  
         
        Join Date: Jan 2009
        Location: scotland
        Programs: Ba gold,honours diamond,spg Platinum,Marriott Platium
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        Ba2037 Ba2039

        We have 2 reward seats booked on each flight and looking to see if we are
        Likely to get all 4 of us on same plane
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        Old Feb 7, 2016, 11:06 am
          #2528  
         
        Join Date: Aug 2012
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        Originally Posted by alexb1212
        We have 2 reward seats booked on each flight and looking to see if we are
        Likely to get all 4 of us on same plane
        The problem with looking this far out is that it won't help you. Just because it's all 9s now doesn't tell you anything. That could be as few as 2 seats sold in club (yours) or all sold out. It could be the latter simply because BA might be betting on a significant number of cancellations.

        All it really does it show that it's possible that something might open up ... but with 8 months to go until your flight - even if it was all 0s right now - that'd still be a possibility because the numbers could change tomorrow when the group occupying club (or whoever) changes their plans.

        Get yourself an expertflyer premium subscription - set up a watch on the 2 flights for 2 more club seats and forget about it until September.
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        Old Feb 7, 2016, 11:58 am
          #2529  
         
        Join Date: Nov 2007
        Location: SW London
        Programs: BAEC Silver; Hilton Diamond;a miscellany of other hotel non-statuses
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        Can someone kindly post what's happening on today's SEA-LHR flights? Thx ^^^.
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        Old Feb 7, 2016, 1:12 pm
          #2530  
         
        Join Date: Apr 2005
        Location: London
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        Posts: 7,549
        Originally Posted by EsherFlyer
        Can someone kindly post what's happening on today's SEA-LHR flights? Thx ^^^.
        not sure what you are after / mean by 'happening' given both flights had left when you posted?


        and here's what's happening on BA 49

        DOBA49/07FEB
        * OPERATIONAL FLIGHT INFO * BA 49 0 SU 07FEB
        CITY INFO HOUR (LOCAL)

        LHR ESTIMATED TIME OF DEPARTURE 1415
        LEFT THE GATE 1414
        TOOK OFF 1441
        ESTIMATED TIME OF ARRIVAL 1605 SEA

        * 1A PLANNED FLIGHT INFO * BA 49 0 SU 07FEB
        APT ARR DY DEP DY CLASS/MEAL EQP GRND EFT TTL
        LHR 1415 SU FAJCDRIWETY/M 777 9:50
        BHKMLVSNQOG/M
        SEA 1605 SU 9:50
        COMMENTS-
        1.LHR SEA - MEMBER OF ONEWORLD
        2.LHR SEA - DEPARTS TERMINAL 5
        3.LHR SEA - 9/ NON-SMOKING
        4.LHR SEA - SECURED FLIGHT
        5.LHR SEA - ET/ ELECTRONIC TKT CANDIDATE
        CONFIGURATION-
        777 F 14 J 48 W 40 M 124
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        Old Feb 7, 2016, 1:29 pm
          #2531  
         
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        Originally Posted by chris1979
        not sure what you are after / mean by 'happening' given both flights had left when you posted?
        Thanks ^.

        I was after loads for the flights departing SEA 07-FEB local. So BA48 at 1800. I thought there was a ~1400 flight as well, but not today it appears.
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        Old Feb 7, 2016, 11:33 pm
          #2532  
         
        Join Date: Jan 2012
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        Hi all,

        I had a bulkhead aisle seat (11J) booked on BA138 at 0230 (9th feb) in WTP.

        Woke up this morning to find I've been moved to 29J - looks like the mid J 747 has been replaced with a hi J aircraft.

        Can someone help find the loads on tonight's flight? Wonder if my odds of an op-up have improved at all

        Thanks!
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        Old Feb 8, 2016, 12:45 am
          #2533  
         
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        Originally Posted by EsherFlyer
        Quote:





        Originally Posted by chris1979


        not sure what you are after / mean by 'happening' given both flights had left when you posted?




        Thanks .

        I was after loads for the flights departing SEA 07-FEB local. So BA48 at 1800. I thought there was a ~1400 flight as well, but not today it appears.
        Sorry didn't read your post very well.

        Can't pull loads after they've closed the flight (i think) so too late.
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        Old Feb 8, 2016, 4:47 am
          #2534  
         
        Join Date: Jun 2014
        Location: UK
        Programs: BA Silver, Hilton DIA, Accor Plat, IHG Spire, Marriot Titanium Elite, Total Rewards Diamond
        Posts: 165
        Can somebody please check:

        BA0289, 14:30 Wed 16 Mar 2016, (First, LHR-PHX) - I have two tickets but there doesn't seem to be any seats together!
        +
        BA0116, 20:15 Sat 26 Mar 2016, (First, JFK-LHR)
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        Old Feb 10, 2016, 6:49 am
          #2535  
         
        Join Date: Dec 2015
        Posts: 121
        Would someone be able to check this for me:

        13/08 ORD RIC
        AA3532 / AA3158

        20/08 ORD RIC
        AA3616 / AA3588

        Thank you!
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