mkjr

if you shook me, you would be arrested as well as i claimed you assaulted me in a violent manner without provocation. i lie well and am very vindictive...that said, your arguement is feeble. try again.

meester69

They are only solutions if you consider there to be a problem.

I really do not.

I remember arriving at LHR for a Sri Lankan Airlines flight about 10 years ago, they told me it was full. In the end I was seated next to a Sri Lankan lady with her infant in the bassinet row. Was it a problem to me then, childless?

No.

If you have an entitlement complex about who else you consider should be on 'your' plane, that's your problem. Not mine.

Er, I don't think anyone is taking toddlers on planes for the toddler's benefit. They take them because THEY want a holiday. If you leave your toddler at home while you fly off somewhere, you WILL be arrested.

Although personally speaking I sometimes take my children on long-haul flights to visit my in-laws (their grandparents), who are unable to visit the UK.

Yes there is a lifestyle change. Instead of going on holiday to Las Vegas you go to Orlando. Instead of Siem Reap you visit Phuket. Instead of Venice you go to Tenerife.

It's bizarre that you imagine that people have no lifestyle change with children.

I am not sure how full-time staff are going to help?

Indeed.

Strawmen, much? If you had someone who was snoring, then shaking them awake would indeed stop them snoring (although I doubt you would), but it might provoke further undesired behaviour.

Shaking a crying child is not going to stop them crying.

There are lots of things that can disturb people. On my last long-haul flight I was sat in economy in the left-hand seat of three, with nobody in front, and a row behind. About 30 minutes before landing I got the passive aggressive treatment from the old woman behind me who told me I was very restless, which was a bit of a useless piece of information at that point, as we were about to land, but anyway I find it difficult to sleep on flights, I'm 6' and 14.5 stone, I have not heard anyone saying that I should stay at home.

Ok?

Best I know the airlines make a commercial decision on children. People might ..... and moan about them, but I don't see people switching airlines because of them. So the airlines really have no incentive to discourage children, who after all help fill the airline and pay for that fuel....

ClubClassCowboy

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CCayley

Less feeble than your spelling!

meester69

Or your response.

CCayley

My point is that if someone is going to attack or patronise the poster, rather than respond to the points that were made, they should at least do so competently. Otherwise they open themselves to legitimate retaliation.

DrBernardo

But this is FT - no tangent left untaken....

Olbas oil is a pretty pungent mixture of various natural oils, and it's designed as an alternative to those Vick's inhaler sticks that you poke up your nose and snort if you have a really bad cold and want to clear a blocked nose. The idea being that you drip a couple of drops in a glass of milk or tea and drink it, or just leave in hot water to diffuse around the room. But you can dab some on your upper lip if you prefer, and that will pretty much block out most things. Peppermint oil would probably also work, but I think Olbas has a more pungent blend. Should be TSA safe, since it's in a small bottle, and if they question it you can tell them it's a decongestant and you have it along for a cold... Swiss made, I think, but certainly widely available in the UK.

henkybaby

That is such a load of poppycock... You were asleep. You make a lousy witness.

johnny5a

I agree - this annoys me - people leave their prams in the middle of the aisle on trains and expect people to get around them - unfortunately I'm in the minority of being considerate and making sure I am in the correct carriage for prams.

even though I am a parent there seems to be more inconsiderate parents seems more than considerate ones.

johnny5a

that;s more comfortable than Y! and you get complete darkness as well - so you don't have the person next to you having the light on all the time

noisylittlebugger

Not guilty - this time!

LTN Phobia

Mod hat on

It would be much appreciated if some of you who are getting a little heated could calm down please?

I would prefer not to have to deploy an ice bucket full of iced water - sans champagne inside.

Thanks very much for your cooperation.

LTN Phobia
Moderator: BA Forum

Mod hat off

johnny5a

ant-histamines work as well - my brother-in-law (who is a doctor) administered to his daughter - they had a very peaceful flight!

HIDDY

This subject has been done to death a hundred times over....yet people still prattle on about it as if it happens on a regular basis.
Honestly.....what percentage of all the long haul flights that you've ever taken has a screaming child affected your comfort for more than say ten minutes?

In my case....none that I recall. I find the PA announcements more of a nuisance.

henkybaby

On my regular short haul (TLS-AMS) there is (at least one) crying child for the duration of the flight. Always. No exception. No idea why.

On my long haul I had it (more than 50% of the flight a child crying or screaming) once in F (not on BA) and about once or twice a year in J. I can't recall how many times in Y.

That said, I am really not that bothered because I have Etymotic in ear noise canceling headphones. You can put 2 screaming babies on my lap and I still don't hear them.