Confirmed: end of euro elite thresholds
#706
Join Date: Apr 2008
Programs: Lord OPebble - Mucci of the Hour. Diamond Class MUCCI.Chevalier du Circle Intime de Pucci
Posts: 7,088
Slightly OT but.......
I was an Eurocheat and built up a number of Avios on my AmEx BA card.
Now that I have returned to the ways of righteousness, has anyone got any idea how I can persuade AmEx to release the miles back to my BA account?
Now that I have returned to the ways of righteousness, has anyone got any idea how I can persuade AmEx to release the miles back to my BA account?
#707
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Ipswich
Posts: 7,543
No, that is incorrect and has been covered in other threads.
If the OP year-end is January, his next two membership years would be January 2013 to January 2014 and January 2014 to January 2015.
So, with over 800TP annually the OP will be Gold until January 2016 with the last Euro-Gold requalification in January 2015.
If the OP year-end is January, his next two membership years would be January 2013 to January 2014 and January 2014 to January 2015.
So, with over 800TP annually the OP will be Gold until January 2016 with the last Euro-Gold requalification in January 2015.
Oh, I'll get me coat! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
#708
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: ARN
Programs: Mucci Entry Level, BA Gold, EK Pleb, SK Pleb, QR Pleb
Posts: 3,585
It seems that what they meant was two renewals beyond the renewal for the year that has already started in March 2012. So, for you, the 2 iteration counter only started to tick when your new year started in Jan 13. So, Jan 14 was your first tick and Jan 15 will be your next and final tick.
I agree that this is not how I had read it either and was expecting the transition period to be a year shorter but the behaviour you have noticed in your account seems to me mirrored in everybody else's experience.
I agree that this is not how I had read it either and was expecting the transition period to be a year shorter but the behaviour you have noticed in your account seems to me mirrored in everybody else's experience.
#709
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: JFK/LGA
Programs: AA EXP/5 MM, BA Blue Bayou, HH LT Diamond
Posts: 5,828
No, that is incorrect and has been covered in other threads.
If the OP year-end is January, his next two membership years would be January 2013 to January 2014 and January 2014 to January 2015.
So, with over 800TP annually the OP will be Gold until January 2016 with the last Euro-Gold requalification in January 2015.
If the OP year-end is January, his next two membership years would be January 2013 to January 2014 and January 2014 to January 2015.
So, with over 800TP annually the OP will be Gold until January 2016 with the last Euro-Gold requalification in January 2015.
I have a Feb year end so the most at stake in this .
We will see in March.
#711
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Munich, Algarve, Sussex or S.F Bay Area
Programs: Mucci, BA Gold, A3*Gold, AA Plat, HH Gold, IHG Plat Amb, Marriott Plat
Posts: 4,164
My year end is November too and it's already showing Gold status retained. (Until December 2015). I have the 800 TP but not yet 1500.
#712
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Munich, Algarve, Sussex or S.F Bay Area
Programs: Mucci, BA Gold, A3*Gold, AA Plat, HH Gold, IHG Plat Amb, Marriott Plat
Posts: 4,164
I think this is likely incorrect and it will be the year earlier scenario. BA has always associated your qualifying with your year end, not when during your qualifying year you crossed the threshold. So Jan 13 and Jan 14.
I have a Feb year end so the most at stake in this .
We will see in March.
I have a Feb year end so the most at stake in this .
We will see in March.
#713
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: ARN
Programs: Mucci Entry Level, BA Gold, EK Pleb, SK Pleb, QR Pleb
Posts: 3,585
Now I can renew January 2015 at old level, surely that must be a third year?
Not that I complain, I'm just a bit confused as I wasn't prepared to hunt TP this year.
#714
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Munich, Algarve, Sussex or S.F Bay Area
Programs: Mucci, BA Gold, A3*Gold, AA Plat, HH Gold, IHG Plat Amb, Marriott Plat
Posts: 4,164
Yes but even so. My membership year begins early January. So in March 2012 I was in the "middle" of a current year. January 2013 I renewed at old level. January 2014 I renewed at old level. That is two years.
Now I can renew January 2015 at old level, surely that must be a third year?
Not that I complain, I'm just a bit confused as I wasn't prepared to hunt TP this year.
Now I can renew January 2015 at old level, surely that must be a third year?
Not that I complain, I'm just a bit confused as I wasn't prepared to hunt TP this year.
I wonder if a sharp fall in connecting passengers from Europe would make them reconsider the change.
#715
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: ARN
Programs: Mucci Entry Level, BA Gold, EK Pleb, SK Pleb, QR Pleb
Posts: 3,585
#716
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: KUO
Programs: HH Diam, AY/AX/KQ/IHG/VISA Plat, SK/Bonvoy/Melia/Strawberry Gold, Radisson Prem, PP Prest
Posts: 2,266
I am pondering the same thing... membership year ends on 08 Feb. 800 TP:s was required for Gold renewal on 08 Feb 2012, 2013, and 2014. Called the EC service centre to ask about Gold qualification limit on 09 Feb 2015 and they told it would be 1500.
Recently BAEC dropped the earnings from most economy AY ticket classes (apart from YBH) to 25% Avios and 50% on TP:s. Resulting only 60 TP for my monthly KUO-HEL-LHR-HEL-KUO trips, which used to be 120 TP:s earlier in booking class T. I calculated in the future 600 points for Silver would be possible but not 1500, and definitely not worthwhile Avioswise. I could also use BA for the HEL-LHR hops but then would have to book two itineraries with all the possible complications of tight overlays. Anyway I should have the BA Gold till 03/2015, Silver till 03/2016 (unless they require 4 true BA flights in addition to grant the soft landing), and lowly Bronze till 03/2017.
I will start collecting good old AY Plus points hereafter and get AY Gold card (eqv to BA silver, plus 4 EU biz upgrades) by next Xmas. Zero TP:s and Avios to my BAEC account from now on. The future holiday travel instead of BA 1st/Club will be in LH 1st/Biz resulting in senhood by next Oct. More pleasant ground experiences do not hurt either, there are no cigar rooms in the BA 1st lounges or CCRs and no limo transfers . LH EU Biz fares are very competitive ex Finland compared to even AY Y fares. One problem facing: how to use some half million Avios rationally, having seen the poor availability of Club/First redemptions. But no hard feelings after all - good so long it lasted.
Recently BAEC dropped the earnings from most economy AY ticket classes (apart from YBH) to 25% Avios and 50% on TP:s. Resulting only 60 TP for my monthly KUO-HEL-LHR-HEL-KUO trips, which used to be 120 TP:s earlier in booking class T. I calculated in the future 600 points for Silver would be possible but not 1500, and definitely not worthwhile Avioswise. I could also use BA for the HEL-LHR hops but then would have to book two itineraries with all the possible complications of tight overlays. Anyway I should have the BA Gold till 03/2015, Silver till 03/2016 (unless they require 4 true BA flights in addition to grant the soft landing), and lowly Bronze till 03/2017.
I will start collecting good old AY Plus points hereafter and get AY Gold card (eqv to BA silver, plus 4 EU biz upgrades) by next Xmas. Zero TP:s and Avios to my BAEC account from now on. The future holiday travel instead of BA 1st/Club will be in LH 1st/Biz resulting in senhood by next Oct. More pleasant ground experiences do not hurt either, there are no cigar rooms in the BA 1st lounges or CCRs and no limo transfers . LH EU Biz fares are very competitive ex Finland compared to even AY Y fares. One problem facing: how to use some half million Avios rationally, having seen the poor availability of Club/First redemptions. But no hard feelings after all - good so long it lasted.
Last edited by TTL; Jan 12, 2014 at 5:06 am
#717
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Munich, Algarve, Sussex or S.F Bay Area
Programs: Mucci, BA Gold, A3*Gold, AA Plat, HH Gold, IHG Plat Amb, Marriott Plat
Posts: 4,164
Actually, I don't think this is correct. I know there are varying interpretations here but to me it seems clear that you will only need 800TP in Feb 2015 but that will be the last time. You were Gold in March 2012 and so can retain at the lower levels for your next two membership years. In your case these are Feb 2013 to Feb 2014 then Feb 2014 to Feb 2015.
#718
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: KUO
Programs: HH Diam, AY/AX/KQ/IHG/VISA Plat, SK/Bonvoy/Melia/Strawberry Gold, Radisson Prem, PP Prest
Posts: 2,266
Actually, I don't think this is correct. I know there are varying interpretations here but to me it seems clear that you will only need 800TP in Feb 2015 but that will be the last time. You were Gold in March 2012 and so can retain at the lower levels for your next two membership years. In your case these are Feb 2013 to Feb 2014 then Feb 2014 to Feb 2015.
#719
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: London
Programs: BA GGL (for now) and Lifetime Gold, Marriott fan thanks to Bonvoy Moments
Posts: 5,115
Give Amex a call and tell them that your BA miles don't seem to be transferring across - that's what I did and got sorted (twice...)