Aug 16, 2013, 8:51 am
Last edit by: FinalBoarding
An “official POUG” is defined (for the purposes of this wiki) as the rate that appears in red on the MMB/BA app. It is NOT the rate offered at the airport (please see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ng-thread.html), or the rate offered when you click on the “Upgrade my class of travel with money” link from within MMB, or the “Upgrade to the next available cabin” blue/grey banner in the app.
Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.
LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):
LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- All POUGs earn full TPs and Avios for the upgraded cabin, subject to the original booking being paid for with cash.
- POUGs *ARE* offered on Hand-Baggage Only fares, if available
- POUGs only become available after 48 hours of making your booking, until any time up to, and including OLCI. After being checked in you will not be offered a POUG.
- POUGs do not seem to become available for travel agent bookings, until 2-3 days before departure (YMMV)
- POUGs cannot be requested from Service Centres, except that occasionally BA.com will not proceed with a POUG online and display a message inviting you to call the Service Centre to complete the transaction.
- After a POUG has been purchased, the ticket become non changeable and non refundable, apart from government taxes.
Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.
LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):
- ACE - £105
- AGP – £79 (£99/€119 Dec 2014)
- AMS - £69 / £56 (£99 from HBO in Nov 2014)
- ATH - £99 (£109 from HBO in Oct 2014)
- ARN – £72
- BCN – £79 (£89 for Silver/Bronze and £114 for HBO Blue Dec 2014 - same fight, two bookings) // Blue Feb 2015 - LGW - BCN - £89 / BCN to LHR £115)
- BGO – £64 (£79 for HBO in SEP2014)
- BRI - £119 / €144 (Dec 2014)
- BRU - £69
- BSL - CHF 85 for BSL-LHR (£55 at then exchange rate) (CHF120 in Dec 2014)
- BUD - £79 (£89 and £105 Dec 2014)
- CDG - £69 (£75 Dec 2014; CDG-LHR €115 Dec 2014)
- CMF - £69 (Dec 2014)
- CPH - £79 (£129 from HBO Nov 2014)
- CTA - £119/€144 (both Dec 2014)
- DBV – £79
- DUB – £69/£56 (£99 from HBO Nov 2014, £80 Dec 2014)
- DUS – £69
- FCO - £170 (Dec 14)
- FRA – £69
- GIB - £72 (£140 Dec 14)
- GOT – £79
- GVA - £79/£89
- HAJ – £69
- HAM – £69
- HEL – £89
- INN – £89 out / €109 back (Dec 14)
- IST – £89
- JER – £69
- KBP - £80 / USD 129 (BA is not currently accepting Ukrainian currency)
- LCA – £89 (£190 Dec 2014 from LCA; separately £134 to LCA Dec 2014)
- LIN – £79
- LIS – £79 (£119 offered Nov 14, £99 and £145 Dec 14)
- LUX - £69
- MAD - £79
- MAH - £69
- MUC - £79
- MXP - £119 (€89 MXP - LHR)
- NCE - £140 (each way, 21/DEC/14)
- ORY - £69
- OSL - £79 (£64/640 NOK reported)
- OTP - £79/€89
- PMI - £69 (Dec 2014)
- PRG – £79
- PSA - £79
- SZG - £114 (Nov 2015)
- SOF - £89
- STR – £69
- TIA – £89 (£99 offered Dec 14 for TIA-LGW) (€119 TIA-LGW Dec 2014)
- TRN – £79
- TXL – £69
- VCE – £79
- VIE – £79 [£129 as of Nov14! GBP99 LHR-VIE + GBP99 VIE-LHR Nov14]
- VRN- €139 (~£110) Nov 2014 - £89 / €109 Dec 2014
- WAW – £69 (£110 Dec 14)
- ZAG – £79
- ZRH – £79 (£87 (CHF135) for ZRH-LHR): LCY-ZRH + v.v. £69 (offered 11/14)
LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- ATL - WTP £189
- BOS – WTP £189 (mid-2014) £219 (December 2014)
- IAD - WTP £157
- JFK/EWR – WTP £189 (can be as low as £133) / CW £443 / F £527 (F £599 02/08)
- LAS - WTP £180
- LAX – WTP £229 / CW £599 (CW £548 Jan 2015)
- MCO– WTP £180
- MEX – F £447/£525 / £229 WT-WTP (November 28 2015)/ 4640 MXN WT-WTP (December 14 2015)
- MIA – WTP £209 / CW £525
- ORD – WTP £171 / CW £525 / F £499
- PHL – WTP £189
- SAN – CW £599
- SEA – WTP £199
- SFO – WTP £170
- YYZ – WTP £171 (return leg) / CW £425 / F £499
- YYC - WTP £134
- YVR – WTP £175 / CW £350
LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- EZE – WTP £199
- GRU – WTP £209 / F £499 / WT to CW £699
- GIG - WT to CW £699
LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- BKK - WTP £126-£140 / CW £549 / F £
- BOM - WTP £ / CW £450 / F £
- DEL - F £499, subsequently reduced to £400
- HKG – WTP £199 (offered £172 for a Nov 2014 flight) / CW £599 / F £599
- NRT - WTP £199 / CW £ / F £525
- ICN - CW £499
- SIN - WTP SGD$320
LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- SYD – WTP £170 / CW £399
LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- AUH – F £499
- CAI - WTP £121
- DXB – WTP £179 / F £499
- EBB - WTP £142
- JNB - WTP £209
- NBO - WTP £189
Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- SYD-SIN – F £465
- AMS-LGW - CE €79
- BCN-LHR - CE £64
- BRU-LHR - CE £105 (12.2014)
- CDG-LHR - CE €79
- DUB-LHR - CE €109 (£85.70-ish) from HBO booked 05.12.14, offered 08.12.14
- BOM-LHR - F cINR40,000 (c£395)
- JNB-LHR WTP - £189
- TLV-LHR - F $600 (c£370)
Pro-active Upgrade cost tracking and questions thread
Dec 22, 2014, 9:40 pm
#3721
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Global Again
Programs: OWS IHG Diamond + Accor Plat, Scandic Top Level
Posts: 762
LHR-ICN-LHR
13 Dec LHR-ICN WT (m) to WTP
22 Dec ICN-LHR WT (S) to WTP
Combined price for two upgrades in MMB was £270
For me as a low class WT frequent flyer extra 110TP's is reason to buy.
I did note that the ICN - LHR flight was close to sold out in WT and WTP, suspected that doing this would increase OPUP chance to CW, suspicions were correct
, thank you BA for nice Xmas pressie.
22 Dec ICN-LHR WT (S) to WTP
Combined price for two upgrades in MMB was £270
For me as a low class WT frequent flyer extra 110TP's is reason to buy.
I did note that the ICN - LHR flight was close to sold out in WT and WTP, suspected that doing this would increase OPUP chance to CW, suspicions were correct
, thank you BA for nice Xmas pressie.
Dec 23, 2014, 12:32 am
#3722
Join Date: Jul 2009
Programs: BAEC Silver, IHG Diamond
Posts: 7,769
Been offered £95 e/w to upgrade my April flights of LHR-DUB / DUB-LHR.
Offer at time of booking was £187 so this is £3 more.
Offer at time of booking was £187 so this is £3 more.
Dec 23, 2014, 3:05 am
#3723
Join Date: Dec 2014
Programs: BAEC (although I might just cut up the card)
Posts: 338
I don't think it relates to your original ticket in a direct sense. From what I can make out, BA have restructured their POUG pricing so that POUG+HBO is about the same price as the cheapest CE price (halved if single). So you can often (not always) work out the POUG price now: Take the cheapest CE return from the CE website, divide it by half, remove the cost of the cheapest HBO and that's the POUG price.
On my return flight it's currently showing (as one-way or part of a return) that HBO Y is €534 and CE is €463
So, I'd be happy for them to pay me the difference to upgrade
In all seriousness. Looking at the flight availability (a fair few CE seats left, very few Y) I'm hoping for a reasonable offer to appear soon...
Dec 23, 2014, 3:57 am
#3724
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: near Heathrow
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL (OWE), SA LifePlat (*G), BD Gold to the end, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,911
I'd also argue that WTP is way better than new CE
Dec 24, 2014, 9:00 am
#3725
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Cambridge, UK
Programs: BAEC Silver, IHG Platinum
Posts: 1,367
It's obviously only a single data point rather than your many but I do have an offer for the very end of March; oddly it's been there, on and off, since I booked in August.
Just after booking the offer, for LCA-LHR, was €152 which seemed pricey; now it's an eye-watering €220.
Bendy
Just after booking the offer, for LCA-LHR, was €152 which seemed pricey; now it's an eye-watering €220.
Bendy
Dec 26, 2014, 8:59 am
#3726
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: vie
Programs: BAEC GfL;LH M&M FQTV ; SPG Gold ; A-Club Gold;HHonnors Diamond
Posts: 171
LHR-VIE-LHR now pricing at £130 each way for a POUG upgrade for early January departure, always used to be £89 for as long back as I can remember.
So given so much has been enhanced away in CE, particularly the extra legroom it it a resounding NO at these prices BA!! Wouldn't be so bad if it was a marginal increase of say £5 but this is just short of a 50% increase!
Not a chance at these prices!
So given so much has been enhanced away in CE, particularly the extra legroom it it a resounding NO at these prices BA!! Wouldn't be so bad if it was a marginal increase of say £5 but this is just short of a 50% increase!
Not a chance at these prices!
Absolutly no meaning to upgrade, Exit row Y is the way to travel SH !!
If no decent Y seats available, BA looses my business for that flight(s)
By the way, I have sent a letter of complaint, more a letter of constructive critics in Oct to Customer Relations about the enhancements of Club Europe.
It took them until 23rd of Dec to answer!
Conclusio of their E-Mail: Customers only wish to have the middle seat empty, "more personal space", "with new seats you don`t feel the difference of reduced seat pitch".Maybe correct in row 1 !!!!
kind regards,
ettrich
Dec 29, 2014, 2:54 am
#3727
Join Date: Apr 2013
Programs: BAEC Silver, Marriott Gold
Posts: 86
Wow, LHR - OTP (early January) - £185 each way.
That's gone from £79, to £129 and now £185 in the last year, all at a 'special' price!
That's gone from £79, to £129 and now £185 in the last year, all at a 'special' price!
Dec 29, 2014, 3:41 am
#3728
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: London and Zurich
Programs: AA, BA, Mucci: Sir Roger des Directions Routières, PCR
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Curious result from our recent LCY-ZRH UG. (We wouldn't normally do this on such a short E190 route but the prospect of imminent Gold for both of us helped decide.)
Outbound, Mrs Roger and I were the only CE passengers and needless to say the service was great. ET was nowhere near full, and I was wondering about the economics of the deal.
Then OLCI-ing for the inbound, no seats had been reserved other than ours - a (potentially) empty cabin from which to select 2CD.
We'll see later whether anybody will join us.
FWIW we are on separate PNRs - mine originally an HBO.
Outbound, Mrs Roger and I were the only CE passengers and needless to say the service was great.
ET was nowhere near full, and I was wondering about the economics of the deal.Then OLCI-ing for the inbound, no seats had been reserved other than ours - a (potentially) empty cabin from which to select 2CD.
We'll see later whether anybody will join us.FWIW we are on separate PNRs - mine originally an HBO.
Dec 29, 2014, 4:09 am
#3729
Join Date: Oct 2013
Programs: GGL/CCR
Posts: 1,899
The above is proof why £195 for LCY-DUB in CE rtn was good value when I booked it
Dec 29, 2014, 4:18 am
#3730
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Gold, VA Flying Club Silver (pointless?), Hertz Gold President's Circle
Posts: 32
Being offered £600 upgrade J to F on LGW - UVF this week. Tempted to take it but I suppose there are better things to spend £600 x 2 on..
Dec 29, 2014, 7:20 am
#3731
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Bridport, Dorset
Programs: Mucci, BA Bronze, Hilton Gold
Posts: 2,130
Just a quick question - when you request an upgrade price (rather than the POUG), BA takes you to a screen, where, without knowing the price, you select
"I do not wish to upgrade this flight"
and
"I wish to upgrade this flight to Club Europe (prices will be displayed on next page)"
This additional screen appears to be unncessary, as you have already selected "I wish to upgrade with Miles" (or Avios as case may be).
It seems an odd little holding screen. Any idea why?
And yes, patiently waiting for a POUG to be offered ;-)
On a Monday, last flight from CPH it's probably unlikely, esp as on a o/w handbaggage ticket!
My friend is flying r/t from LHR and has upgraded already.
"I do not wish to upgrade this flight"
and
"I wish to upgrade this flight to Club Europe (prices will be displayed on next page)"
This additional screen appears to be unncessary, as you have already selected "I wish to upgrade with Miles" (or Avios as case may be).
It seems an odd little holding screen. Any idea why?
And yes, patiently waiting for a POUG to be offered ;-)
On a Monday, last flight from CPH it's probably unlikely, esp as on a o/w handbaggage ticket!
My friend is flying r/t from LHR and has upgraded already.
Last edited by Sealink; Dec 29, 2014 at 10:52 am
Dec 29, 2014, 7:34 am
#3732
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA Gold, SQ Gold, KQ Platinum, IHG Diamond Ambassador, Hilton Gold, Marriott Silver, Accor Silver
Posts: 16,348
Dec 29, 2014, 9:33 am
#3734
Join Date: Dec 2014
Programs: BAEC (although I might just cut up the card)
Posts: 338
I had the same flight start at £129 and end at £185.. It seems to have settled at £185 even on the day before departure (OTP-LHR tomorrow).
It seems to be the new standard price for this route.
Dec 29, 2014, 11:02 am
#3735
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: London
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 2,644
£170 for LHR-FCO for a mid-week booking in March 2015...seems a bit steep