Aug 16, 2013, 8:51 am
Last edit by: FinalBoarding
An “official POUG” is defined (for the purposes of this wiki) as the rate that appears in red on the MMB/BA app. It is NOT the rate offered at the airport (please see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ng-thread.html), or the rate offered when you click on the “Upgrade my class of travel with money” link from within MMB, or the “Upgrade to the next available cabin” blue/grey banner in the app.
Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.
LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):
LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- All POUGs earn full TPs and Avios for the upgraded cabin, subject to the original booking being paid for with cash.
- POUGs *ARE* offered on Hand-Baggage Only fares, if available
- POUGs only become available after 48 hours of making your booking, until any time up to, and including OLCI. After being checked in you will not be offered a POUG.
- POUGs do not seem to become available for travel agent bookings, until 2-3 days before departure (YMMV)
- POUGs cannot be requested from Service Centres, except that occasionally BA.com will not proceed with a POUG online and display a message inviting you to call the Service Centre to complete the transaction.
- After a POUG has been purchased, the ticket become non changeable and non refundable, apart from government taxes.
Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.
LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):
- ACE - £105
- AGP – £79 (£99/€119 Dec 2014)
- AMS - £69 / £56 (£99 from HBO in Nov 2014)
- ATH - £99 (£109 from HBO in Oct 2014)
- ARN – £72
- BCN – £79 (£89 for Silver/Bronze and £114 for HBO Blue Dec 2014 - same fight, two bookings) // Blue Feb 2015 - LGW - BCN - £89 / BCN to LHR £115)
- BGO – £64 (£79 for HBO in SEP2014)
- BRI - £119 / €144 (Dec 2014)
- BRU - £69
- BSL - CHF 85 for BSL-LHR (£55 at then exchange rate) (CHF120 in Dec 2014)
- BUD - £79 (£89 and £105 Dec 2014)
- CDG - £69 (£75 Dec 2014; CDG-LHR €115 Dec 2014)
- CMF - £69 (Dec 2014)
- CPH - £79 (£129 from HBO Nov 2014)
- CTA - £119/€144 (both Dec 2014)
- DBV – £79
- DUB – £69/£56 (£99 from HBO Nov 2014, £80 Dec 2014)
- DUS – £69
- FCO - £170 (Dec 14)
- FRA – £69
- GIB - £72 (£140 Dec 14)
- GOT – £79
- GVA - £79/£89
- HAJ – £69
- HAM – £69
- HEL – £89
- INN – £89 out / €109 back (Dec 14)
- IST – £89
- JER – £69
- KBP - £80 / USD 129 (BA is not currently accepting Ukrainian currency)
- LCA – £89 (£190 Dec 2014 from LCA; separately £134 to LCA Dec 2014)
- LIN – £79
- LIS – £79 (£119 offered Nov 14, £99 and £145 Dec 14)
- LUX - £69
- MAD - £79
- MAH - £69
- MUC - £79
- MXP - £119 (€89 MXP - LHR)
- NCE - £140 (each way, 21/DEC/14)
- ORY - £69
- OSL - £79 (£64/640 NOK reported)
- OTP - £79/€89
- PMI - £69 (Dec 2014)
- PRG – £79
- PSA - £79
- SZG - £114 (Nov 2015)
- SOF - £89
- STR – £69
- TIA – £89 (£99 offered Dec 14 for TIA-LGW) (€119 TIA-LGW Dec 2014)
- TRN – £79
- TXL – £69
- VCE – £79
- VIE – £79 [£129 as of Nov14! GBP99 LHR-VIE + GBP99 VIE-LHR Nov14]
- VRN- €139 (~£110) Nov 2014 - £89 / €109 Dec 2014
- WAW – £69 (£110 Dec 14)
- ZAG – £79
- ZRH – £79 (£87 (CHF135) for ZRH-LHR): LCY-ZRH + v.v. £69 (offered 11/14)
LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- ATL - WTP £189
- BOS – WTP £189 (mid-2014) £219 (December 2014)
- IAD - WTP £157
- JFK/EWR – WTP £189 (can be as low as £133) / CW £443 / F £527 (F £599 02/08)
- LAS - WTP £180
- LAX – WTP £229 / CW £599 (CW £548 Jan 2015)
- MCO– WTP £180
- MEX – F £447/£525 / £229 WT-WTP (November 28 2015)/ 4640 MXN WT-WTP (December 14 2015)
- MIA – WTP £209 / CW £525
- ORD – WTP £171 / CW £525 / F £499
- PHL – WTP £189
- SAN – CW £599
- SEA – WTP £199
- SFO – WTP £170
- YYZ – WTP £171 (return leg) / CW £425 / F £499
- YYC - WTP £134
- YVR – WTP £175 / CW £350
LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- EZE – WTP £199
- GRU – WTP £209 / F £499 / WT to CW £699
- GIG - WT to CW £699
LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- BKK - WTP £126-£140 / CW £549 / F £
- BOM - WTP £ / CW £450 / F £
- DEL - F £499, subsequently reduced to £400
- HKG – WTP £199 (offered £172 for a Nov 2014 flight) / CW £599 / F £599
- NRT - WTP £199 / CW £ / F £525
- ICN - CW £499
- SIN - WTP SGD$320
LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- SYD – WTP £170 / CW £399
LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- AUH – F £499
- CAI - WTP £121
- DXB – WTP £179 / F £499
- EBB - WTP £142
- JNB - WTP £209
- NBO - WTP £189
Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- SYD-SIN – F £465
- AMS-LGW - CE €79
- BCN-LHR - CE £64
- BRU-LHR - CE £105 (12.2014)
- CDG-LHR - CE €79
- DUB-LHR - CE €109 (£85.70-ish) from HBO booked 05.12.14, offered 08.12.14
- BOM-LHR - F cINR40,000 (c£395)
- JNB-LHR WTP - £189
- TLV-LHR - F $600 (c£370)
Pro-active Upgrade cost tracking and questions thread
Dec 12, 2014, 4:45 am
#3646
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If they are testing pricing points, £4 isn't going to do it BA.
Dec 12, 2014, 4:49 am
#3647
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Dec 12, 2014, 6:09 am
#3648
Join Date: Dec 2014
Programs: BAEC (although I might just cut up the card)
Posts: 338
Just today the POUG for LHR-OTP-LHR in April has changed to £185 per person and LHR-VCE-LHR to £135. That's only for one of the flights mind you. I now suspect there is a random number generator involved.
Just for fun, I thought I'd generate a price for the LHR-OTP-LHR upgrade (no special has appeared for a while now)... £1400 per person (return mind you). Now it's around Christmas, so OK the flight will be full. But, that still shocked me a bit.
Either that or it's the BA "gong" game and we have to hit buy as soon as we see a number we like before the check in cut-off gong.
Just for fun, I thought I'd generate a price for the LHR-OTP-LHR upgrade (no special has appeared for a while now)... £1400 per person (return mind you). Now it's around Christmas, so OK the flight will be full. But, that still shocked me a bit.
Either that or it's the BA "gong" game and we have to hit buy as soon as we see a number we like before the check in cut-off gong.
Last edited by r00ty; Dec 12, 2014 at 6:15 am
Dec 12, 2014, 11:25 am
#3649
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Bridport, Dorset
Programs: Mucci, BA Bronze, Hilton Gold
Posts: 2,130
I missed out on a POUG recently. It was offered for seven days and when I decided to go for it had gone. (WAW - LHR)
At check-in, my friend was offered an upgrade via the app, I wasn't (presumably
Because he was on a R/T ticket and I was on a O/W one).
I enquired at the airport and was able to purchase an upgrade for PLN500 (£95).
A lot of money, but I appreciated
- fast track security
- lounge access (hello Gin & Tonics!)
- middle seat free
- choice of three main courses (the one I picked was possibly the best meal I have had in the air (my little experience being Icelandair Business, BA Club Europe and VS Upper Class)
- four bottles of champers.
Hoping that BA are kind to me for my PMI-LCY flight on Sunday (yep, missed the POUG on app for this flight too)
At check-in, my friend was offered an upgrade via the app, I wasn't (presumably
Because he was on a R/T ticket and I was on a O/W one).
I enquired at the airport and was able to purchase an upgrade for PLN500 (£95).
A lot of money, but I appreciated
- fast track security
- lounge access (hello Gin & Tonics!)
- middle seat free
- choice of three main courses (the one I picked was possibly the best meal I have had in the air (my little experience being Icelandair Business, BA Club Europe and VS Upper Class)
- four bottles of champers.
Hoping that BA are kind to me for my PMI-LCY flight on Sunday (yep, missed the POUG on app for this flight too)
Dec 12, 2014, 11:28 am
#3650
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Location: Bridport, Dorset
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Dec 12, 2014, 12:40 pm
#3651
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: near Heathrow
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£99 POUG each way offered for same day return to Jersey in January on HBO fare. Appeared 48 hours after booking. This does represent a substantial saving on the CE fare of £430 rtn when added to the HBO fare of £56 rtn.
Last edited by gcuk; Dec 12, 2014 at 12:51 pm
Dec 13, 2014, 11:36 am
#3652
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Buckinghamshire
Programs: BAEC Gold Guest List, Hilton Honours Diamond, Accor Gold
Posts: 2,303
Does anyone know if BA sell PAUG on code share with Iberia booked thru' the BA website…?
Dec 13, 2014, 11:48 am
#3653
Join Date: Apr 2006
Programs: BA Blue
Posts: 95
POUG LHR to Warsaw £110 one way - limited offer!
Dec 13, 2014, 11:55 am
#3654
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: HKG
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Looks this way, I had a "usual" offer of £69 to upgrade a LHR-DUB flight via email, however today looking at the booking this had gone up to £80
Dec 13, 2014, 12:04 pm
#3655
Join Date: Jul 2009
Programs: BAEC Silver, IHG Diamond
Posts: 7,780
i.e.
Ticket 1: Sat 3rd Jan LGW-JER, Sat 28th March JER-LGW
Ticket 2: Sat 3rd Jan JER-LGW, Sat 28th March LGW-JER
Dec 13, 2014, 12:06 pm
#3656
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Buckinghamshire
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I had them offered both ways on a Hanover flight in March, Took the outbound, then a day later the rtn was whipped away.
Dec 13, 2014, 12:53 pm
#3657
Moderator, Iberia Airlines, Airport Lounges, and Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
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Dec 13, 2014, 12:57 pm
#3658
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: UK
Programs: I go wherever the content takes me.
Posts: 5,698
I didn't take it.
The point is, I think POUGs run on a hidden algorithm tied to ticket sales in various classes - so they can appear, disappear, and reappear again, etc.
Dec 13, 2014, 1:15 pm
#3659
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Buckinghamshire
Programs: BAEC Gold Guest List, Hilton Honours Diamond, Accor Gold
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I've got a return BA code IBERIA operated flight from LHR (via MAD) to LEI on Wednesday.
I9 is showing on both the legs between LHR and MAD, and I2 between MAD and LEI (both ways).
Travel dates: out 17/12, rtn 22/12.
POUG isn't offered on the BA website (I have regularly checked), so do I take it that it is NEVER offered on IBERIA operated flights??
I9 is showing on both the legs between LHR and MAD, and I2 between MAD and LEI (both ways).
Travel dates: out 17/12, rtn 22/12.
POUG isn't offered on the BA website (I have regularly checked), so do I take it that it is NEVER offered on IBERIA operated flights??
Dec 13, 2014, 1:21 pm
#3660
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Location: near Heathrow
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If a TP run, better to use nested bookings at £218 return in CE (so £436 for 160TP or £2.74/TP) than the £5.38/TP on the £430 fare or £3.18/TP on the £56 + 2x£99 fare.
i.e.
Ticket 1: Sat 3rd Jan LGW-JER, Sat 28th March JER-LGW
Ticket 2: Sat 3rd Jan JER-LGW, Sat 28th March LGW-JER
i.e.
Ticket 1: Sat 3rd Jan LGW-JER, Sat 28th March JER-LGW
Ticket 2: Sat 3rd Jan JER-LGW, Sat 28th March LGW-JER
Perhaps one day...