Sep 6, 2013, 1:14 pm
Last edit by: Globaliser
The latest version (2010) of the First cabin (termed "Prime" internally by British Airways, or "New First") is available on all 4-class 777s and all 747s.
An newer evolution (2013) of the First seat (Prime+) is found on all A380s, and a newer version still (2015) is available on all 787-9s.
The older version of the First cabin (termed "Classic" internally by British Airways, or "Old First") has now been withdrawn.
747 information updated to 31 March 2016. Last change: withdrawal of G-BNLF, the last OF aircraft
An newer evolution (2013) of the First seat (Prime+) is found on all A380s, and a newer version still (2015) is available on all 787-9s.
The older version of the First cabin (termed "Classic" internally by British Airways, or "Old First") has now been withdrawn.
747 information updated to 31 March 2016. Last change: withdrawal of G-BNLF, the last OF aircraft
Tracking NF [New First]
Jan 6, 2011, 8:16 am
#827
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My wife and I are travelling to LA on the 1st February and was wondering if NF is likely to be on the flight. Logic tells me its a premium route with the movie industry - but then BA isn't always logical. Fortunately I got the tickest at a reasonable price - not the £10K return it is today on a fully flexible ticket. If I paid the full price and got old "F" - I'd be as gloomy as could be. Any ideas from anyone??
Come to think of it - I'll still be gloomy with Old "F".
Come to think of it - I'll still be gloomy with Old "F".
Jan 6, 2011, 8:19 am
#828
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Jan 6, 2011, 8:20 am
#829
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My wife and I are travelling to LA on the 1st February and was wondering if NF is likely to be on the flight. Logic tells me its a premium route with the movie industry - but then BA isn't always logical. Fortunately I got the tickest at a reasonable price - not the £10K return it is today on a fully flexible ticket. If I paid the full price and got old "F" - I'd be as gloomy as could be. Any ideas from anyone??
BTW - welcome to FT clivedrake!!!!^
Jan 6, 2011, 8:23 am
#830
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Colchester, Essex
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OK.. thanks for that. I am encouraged. new boy here - how do i chck the data base.
By the way - is there any explanation from anyone - why BA dont buy the new 747-800 series, its 20% more fuel efficient than the 400. They seem to be holding out for the 787 - it will be a decade until they see that one - and it has a lower seating capacity. The "8" is available NOW !
By the way - is there any explanation from anyone - why BA dont buy the new 747-800 series, its 20% more fuel efficient than the 400. They seem to be holding out for the 787 - it will be a decade until they see that one - and it has a lower seating capacity. The "8" is available NOW !
Jan 6, 2011, 8:45 am
#831
Join Date: May 2010
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 163
I guess terminalfive means ftdashboard.net/overview/baflights.htm or ftdashboard.net/fleet/b744.htm or ftdashboard.net/dest/lax.htm
Not a hugely positive outlook for NF and LAX...
Not a hugely positive outlook for NF and LAX...
Jan 6, 2011, 10:29 am
#832
Join Date: Feb 2009
Programs: BA Exec Club
Posts: 506
More likely:
*They retain 17 seats in NF;
*The forward cabin is partitioned with fewer F seats and an extra row of J seats behind (possibly moved from further back to allow extra W seats);
*The aircraft are reconfigured as 3 class (no F).
In all likelihood we won't know until the first one comes back, but my money would be on the first one as the simplest solution. There may be some benefit in having the flexibility to accomodate more F passengers by switching these aircraft onto suitable routes as required.
Last edited by marks7389; Jan 6, 2011 at 11:16 am
Jan 6, 2011, 11:02 am
#833
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Jan 6, 2011, 11:55 am
#834
Join Date: Aug 2004
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By the way - is there any explanation from anyone - why BA dont buy the new 747-800 series, its 20% more fuel efficient than the 400. They seem to be holding out for the 787 - it will be a decade until they see that one - and it has a lower seating capacity. The "8" is available NOW !
Perhaps you've heard more recent news, clivedrake? And, welcome to FT!
Last edited by anabolism; Jan 6, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Jan 6, 2011, 11:59 am
#835
Join Date: Aug 2004
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I guess terminalfive means ftdashboard.net/overview/baflights.htm or ftdashboard.net/fleet/b744.htm or ftdashboard.net/dest/lax.htm
Not a hugely positive outlook for NF and LAX...
Not a hugely positive outlook for NF and LAX...
Jan 6, 2011, 12:10 pm
#836
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: UK
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Posts: 255
By the way - is there any explanation from anyone - why BA dont buy the new 747-800 series, its 20% more fuel efficient than the 400. They seem to be holding out for the 787 - it will be a decade until they see that one - and it has a lower seating capacity. The "8" is available NOW !
Jan 6, 2011, 1:28 pm
#837
Join Date: Apr 2009
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I guess terminalfive means ftdashboard.net/overview/baflights.htm or ftdashboard.net/fleet/b744.htm or ftdashboard.net/dest/lax.htm
Not a hugely positive outlook for NF and LAX...
Not a hugely positive outlook for NF and LAX...
Thanks ftdashboard ^
Jan 6, 2011, 1:32 pm
#838
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Jan 6, 2011, 1:37 pm
#839
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Who is 'they'? YouFirst tells me that they only know the specific aircraft between 24 and 48hrs in advance. My flight to JNB was not know until T-24 on the dot. Neither flight (55/57) operated by a NF aircraft by the way. The 57 is a low J so chances are very slim.
Jan 6, 2011, 1:49 pm
#840
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I was told 24 hours