Strike ballot called: here we go [General discussion of BA industrial relations]
Nov 2, 2009, 7:37 am
#166
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Wouldn't they be better off doing more hours for BA than doing this additional job ?
Unless of course the additional job pays better
Nov 2, 2009, 7:50 am
#167
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Hammy its not the £100k pilot that works 33%, its one who is cabin crew.
Both have additional jobs as they get so much time off. Even the full time pilot. He tends to go to work on a Friday night be back home Sunday and have the rest of the week to himself,
Both have additional jobs as they get so much time off. Even the full time pilot. He tends to go to work on a Friday night be back home Sunday and have the rest of the week to himself,
Nov 2, 2009, 7:55 am
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The Post office has been raped and pillaged in the same way as the buses were 15-odd years ago. Any private firm will cherry pick the profitable parts of the business. Other postal firms are interested in the high value corporate and metropolitan post. They are not interested in delivering letters to Joe in the back of beyond for 32p. Likewise private bus companies are loving the fact that they can operate the high value routes in the cities but are not interested in delivering Mavis to her home in the country. If we as a nation wants to preserve these services then they need subsidy. It all depends on the sort of society we want to live in.
I for one do NOT want to live in a society where the overall driving factor is always cost and profit. It seems, however, we're being given increasingly little choice.
There are other, far more important things in life.
BAH
Nov 2, 2009, 7:58 am
#169
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These people ,you know, must be fairly vulgar as it's not normal to discuss your salary with all and sundry.
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Nov 2, 2009, 7:59 am
#170
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^^^^^^^
Nov 2, 2009, 8:09 am
#171
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Because they want more money (and have some time available), I imagine.
£100k pa, quite a good wage by most standards, still doesn't seem to go very far (especially after the tax man has stolen a huge proportion of it).
£100k pa, quite a good wage by most standards, still doesn't seem to go very far (especially after the tax man has stolen a huge proportion of it).
Nov 2, 2009, 8:10 am
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And yes, 50% contract crew can and do work one month on and one month off.
If we want to talk about being nasty, maybe you need to re-read and edit your original quoted post and consider how that sounds before accusing me of it.
Nov 2, 2009, 8:19 am
#173
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Maybe that's why we end up with such polarised views on this issue on here.
How many people on here have made wholesale sacrifices to their terms and conditions of employment?
Which companies / organisations can really 'afford' to let their employees travel in anything higher than WT+ on daytime flights and ET at any time ?
Nov 2, 2009, 8:21 am
#174
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And therein lies, the problem. They need to open up the options:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_JMZj0YFmY
(warning, contains adult humour)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_JMZj0YFmY
(warning, contains adult humour)
Nov 2, 2009, 8:22 am
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Nov 2, 2009, 9:05 am
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Nov 2, 2009, 9:11 am
#178
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And therein lies, the problem. They need to open up the options:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_JMZj0YFmY
(warning, contains adult humour)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_JMZj0YFmY
(warning, contains adult humour)
Love it!
Nov 2, 2009, 9:20 am
#179
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Dear Tilly123
Without wishing to be rude, I would love to know who where you get your facts from, as far as I know even the Daily Mail is more accurate than your sources
For information the contract types are 33% 50% and 75%, and the working time is exactly that. If you are 50% you work 50% of the time and get paid 50% of the salary.
Nobody at BA would be earning £100,000 unless they were a senior Manager or Captain. (and I would say that only the most senior Captains would be earning that amount).
Cabin crew in my experience do not just throw out Chicken or Beef. They undergo thorough training in Medical emergencies, and can throw YOU out of a 747 when needed. They are qualified firefighters, and can restrain disruptive customers when needed.
I would suggest you check out some you tube movies, type in Phoenix evacuation, and BA038 as just two examples of where BA crew have performed incredibly well, and where they have saved lives.
I would urge you also to look at the REAL figures.
For information the contract types are 33% 50% and 75%, and the working time is exactly that. If you are 50% you work 50% of the time and get paid 50% of the salary.
Nobody at BA would be earning £100,000 unless they were a senior Manager or Captain. (and I would say that only the most senior Captains would be earning that amount).
Cabin crew in my experience do not just throw out Chicken or Beef. They undergo thorough training in Medical emergencies, and can throw YOU out of a 747 when needed. They are qualified firefighters, and can restrain disruptive customers when needed.
I would suggest you check out some you tube movies, type in Phoenix evacuation, and BA038 as just two examples of where BA crew have performed incredibly well, and where they have saved lives.
I would urge you also to look at the REAL figures.
Nov 2, 2009, 9:20 am
#180
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Can we please take a step back from some of the rather emotive posting above? Appreciating this is a very sensitive topic to all concerned, whether BA staff, passengers, shareholders or the man on the Clapham Omnibus, it still doesn't warrant an outbreak of personal attacks etc.
We'd rather not have to lock this, since the topic at hand is particularly relevant, but if the level of discussions doesn't move back towards civility, I'm not sure what choice we have.
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We'd rather not have to lock this, since the topic at hand is particularly relevant, but if the level of discussions doesn't move back towards civility, I'm not sure what choice we have.
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