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Planned long haul services for June 2020, published by routesonline.com

Long-haul routes
As of 0930GMT 07MAY20, planned June 2020 long-haul operation as follows. Additional changes expected in the next few days.

Heathrow to Boston: 1 daily 787-8
Heathrow to Chicago OHare: 1 daily 787-9
Heathrow to Delhi: 1 daily 787-8 (from 1st July)
Heathrow to Hong Kong: 3 weekly 777-300ER
Heathrow to Los Angeles: 1 daily 787-9
Heathrow to Mumbai: 787-9 operates alternating days (from 1st July)
Heathrow to New York JFK: 2 daily 747-400/777-200ER Daily 777-200ER
Heathrow to San Francisco: 1 daily 787-8 (from 8th June)
Heathrow to Sao Paulo Guarulhos: 1 daily 777-300ER (from 1st July)
Heathrow to Singapore: 777-300ER operates alternating days
Heathrow to Tel Aviv: 1 daily A350-1000XWB 4 x Weekly 777-300ER
Heathrow to Toronto: 1 daily 787-8 (from 1st July)
Heathrow to Washington Dulles: 1 daily A350-1000XWB

BA currently lists London Heathrow Beijing Daxing (from 14JUN20) and London Heathrow Shanghai Pu Dong schedule for June 2020, however only following booking class open for reservation: A / C / E / B. Both routes scheduled as alternating days service.


Short haul routes
British Airways in recent schedule update filed planned European operations for the month of June 2020. From London Heathrow, the oneWorld carrier plans to resume additional routes, offering 316 weekly flight departures (based on 10MAY20 OAG schedules data), instead of 1750 weekly listed as of 15MAR20.

As of 10MAY20, schedule listing also sees BA CityFlyer resumes operation, offering service from London City, Edinburgh and Glasgow from 01JUN20, while London Gatwick departures to be resumed by 01JUL20. Due to ongoing development, these plan may see further modification in the next few days.

Edinburgh Florence 2 weekly
Edinburgh Palma Mallorca 1 weekly
Glasgow Palma Mallorca 1 weekly
London City Amsterdam 16 weekly
London City Berlin Tegel 9 weekly
London City Dublin 17 weekly
London City Edinburgh 17 weekly
London City Florence 4 weekly
London City Frankfurt 9 weekly
London City Glasgow 13 weekly
London City Ibiza 4 weekly
London City Isle of Man 6 weekly
London City Milan Linate 11 weekly
London City Nice 4 weekly 0
London City Rotterdam 15 weekly
London Heathrow Aberdeen 7 weekly
London Heathrow Amsterdam 14 weekly
London Heathrow Athens eff 19JUN20 3 weekly
London Heathrow Barcelona 14 weekly
London Heathrow Basel/Mulhouse 4 weekly
London Heathrow Belfast City 7 weekly
London Heathrow Berlin Tegel 7 weekly
London Heathrow Bologna 3 weekly
London Heathrow Brussels 7 weekly
London Heathrow Bucharest 4 weekly
London Heathrow Budapest 10 weekly
London Heathrow Copenhagen 7 weekly
London Heathrow Dalaman 1 weekly
London Heathrow Dublin 7 weekly
London Heathrow Dusseldorf 6 weekly
London Heathrow Edinburgh 14 weekly
London Heathrow Faro 6 weekly
London Heathrow Geneva 7 weekly
London Heathrow Gibraltar 4 weekly
London Heathrow Glasgow 7 weekly
London Heathrow Ibiza 11 weekly
London Heathrow Istanbul 3 weekly
London Heathrow Krakow 3 weekly
London Heathrow Larnaca eff 18JUN20 3 weekly
London Heathrow Lisbon 11 weekly
London Heathrow Madrid 7 weekly
London Heathrow Malaga 4 weekly
London Heathrow Manchester 7 weekly
London Heathrow Milan Linate 7 weekly
London Heathrow Moscow Domodedovo 14 weekly
London Heathrow Moscow Sheremetyevo 7 weekly
London Heathrow Munich 7 weekly
London Heathrow Nice 11 weekly 7 weekly
London Heathrow Oslo 4 weekly
London Heathrow Palma Mallorca 13 weekly
London Heathrow Paris CDG 7 weekly 4 weekly
London Heathrow Prague 7 weekly
London Heathrow Reykjavik Keflavik 3 weekly
London Heathrow Rome 11 weekly
London Heathrow Sofia 3 weekly
London Heathrow Split 5 weekly
London Heathrow Stockholm Arlanda 7 weekly
London Heathrow Tenerife South 2 weekly
London Heathrow Valencia 4 weekly
London Heathrow Venice 10 weekly
London Heathrow Warsaw 3 weekly
London Heathrow Zagreb 3 weekly
London Heathrow Zurich 7 weekly



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Old Apr 23, 2020 | 3:46 am
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Originally Posted by let_BAegones_be
No one has a crystal ball but that is a bit doom and gloom forecast indeed.

There are countless reports of tourism ministers from many countries in Europe forecasting when they hope to reopen hotels and allow tourists to enter the country. Most suggest end of June, beginning of July.

I sincerely hope you are wrong.
Please back this up. Countless reports? Maybe we follow different news channels but the only people I have seen mention as travel resuming during the summer are tour operators, for obvious cash flow reasons.
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Originally Posted by fransknorge
The German government yesterday clearly asked the citizens to *not* book any summer vacations, explicitly saying people should expect to not travel. Domestic might be possible but a hassle (you need a certification currently to cross certain Lnder borders).
And I agree that this is a sensible position to take, because no-one knows when it will be safe (or even possible) to travel again.

But I also read that the Austrian government is lobbying the German government to open their mutual border as soon as it is safe to do so, so that Germans and Austrians can holiday in each other's countries (though this might be with one eye on the tourist income from Germans with nowhere to go but Austria).
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Originally Posted by subject2load
I guess that, ultimately, the key issue for most people is whether one chooses to take ones lead or decisions based on the view of unqualified tourism ministers (who just happen to have been placed in their roles by the head of a Government) ; or on those with professional, respected, expertise in the fields of health, medicine, and science.
Countries do take decision from unqualified ministers. Look at us and Rishi.

Just kidding...
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Old Apr 23, 2020 | 4:58 am
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Originally Posted by subject2load
I guess that, ultimately, the key issue for most people is whether one chooses to take ones lead or decisions based on the view of unqualified tourism ministers (who just happen to have been placed in their roles by the head of a Government) ; or on those with professional, respected, expertise in the fields of health, medicine, and science.
But it's the ministers who will make these decisions, not the health experts. We vote for MPs to represent us and make decisions, not health advisors. Not that their advice should be ignored, of course. But, inevitably, health experts will want the lockdown and restrictions to go on and on and on forever, until they can be sure of another way to reduce it. They don't care about the effect that has on the economy. Rightly so, that's not their job. But it is the job of the "unqualified ministers" to take that advice on board and weigh it up against everything else the country has to do, and, the overriding public feeling in their country. Right now, the overriding feeling in the UK is that this should continue. But, it won't stay that way for long. That includes easing lockdown, and eventually, reopening their respective countries.
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Old Apr 23, 2020 | 5:01 am
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Luckily tourism ministers have close to zero authority over anything.
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Originally Posted by LondonElite
Luckily tourism ministers have close to zero authority over anything.
I guess thats pretty much the case - although whether they do, or do not, is in many ways immaterial to me.

Its a fact that I cannot enter any foreign country whose Government closes its borders to visitors ; and, equally, the fact that a Government may subsequently (very possibly for economic reasons) choose to re-open will not - of itself - determine whether I then wish to travel there. That will be based on my own assessment of available advice and comment from those best qualified to evaluate the health risks of overseas travel.
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Old Apr 23, 2020 | 5:22 am
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It's impossible to plan, things change so much and the pubic are also getting more and more restless.

Again tourism restrictions depend on how much of a country's GDP is tourism based, Greece would have much more interest in opening borders than let's say Austria or Germany.

For upcoming flights in May and June, are BA basing reservations on blocked middle seats on current flights?

Because O'Leary apparently just said " either the government pays for the empty middle seat they force us or we won't fly if we have to block out the middle seat"
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Old Apr 23, 2020 | 5:31 am
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Originally Posted by ahmetdouas
It's impossible to plan, things change so much and the pubic are also getting more and more restless.
Actually, 87% of the British people believe the lockdown should continue, with only 7% against.
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Old Apr 23, 2020 | 5:54 am
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Devil's advocate - But how is that trend in comparison to when it was imposed? Also, the longer it goes on, the more the %s will slide from one to t'other. The media's approach to reporting doesn't do much to help the country's mood, everything is negative at the moment. I'd personally like to see some good news about this virus, like more stories of recovery. Although I do concede that if they starting reporting that 1000s are recovering compared to the daily death total, there are those that will flout lockdown as they'll have a reduced perception of the current risk.

I think I said way upthread, may even have been in a different one, I originally thought that we would start to reopen in stages from mid-May and be fully open (domestically) by June. Now, I don't foresee that timeline being realistic any more, but I still really do not think this is going to last anywhere near as long as some posters here believe. Perhaps mid-June/early July, a month longer. Now of course, it is down to each of us individually, at the time what, if any, restrictions are eased, if we want to exercise those freedoms. Some people won't, they'll remain in isolation/lockdown of their own volition. Others, like myself, will use them - if they tell me I can go to the pub, cinema or restaurants again, I probably will. As will I simply go out to town to wander around, casually browse in shops.

Provided the USA is "open" again and the FCO has rescinded its Do Not Travel warning, I'll be going to NYC in March.

I think we will see some foreign holiday travel from the UK this year, probably not until late August/early September, with business travel being allowed before that. More than likely with reduced capacity on board enforced in some way. I still think rapid testing will help with this, but that obviously depends on how quickly an accurate, reliable rapid test is developed and mass produced.

I don't think schools will resume en-masse this academic year, with a full return done in September. I don't think anywhere that we can gather as a mass will be allowed to reopen without some form of social distancing, which will probably be in the form of reduced capacity in some form.

I still believe that waiting out a vaccine isn't practical, and we're more likely to see some form of anti-viral to alleviate symptoms and reduce the risk of death as a result of contraction.
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Old Apr 23, 2020 | 7:55 am
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Originally Posted by BY1985
I'm fairly laid back about it, I've got a long held trip to NYC staying at the Hyatt Grand Central to celebrate Independence Day and see friends from June 29th to July 6th. My routing is NCL-LHR-JFK.

I'm prepared to fly if it goes ahead but I'm easy either way tbh. I doubt I'll be on the 747 I've picked seats on if it does go ahead.

I did query cancelling or delaying with BA but I was told I'd lose my hotel cost if I changed even with the voucher - I assume this would change if BA themselves changed the holiday or didn't resume the NCL-LHR portion of the trip? Travel insurance are humming and harring about it but tbh pounds are replaceable in the long term, life isn't.
Was this trip a BA vacation?
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Was this trip a BA vacation?
It is yes. I've since had an offer of a voucher this lunchtime which includes the seat fees paid and flights but not the hotel!
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Old Apr 23, 2020 | 8:01 am
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It is yes. I've since had an offer of a voucher this lunchtime which includes the seat fees paid and flights but not the hotel!
Currently, to have a voucher covering your hotel, your trip should start before 31 May 2020 according to BA.com
Probably, the e-mail you received was an auto e-mail sent to everyone.

They might extend the date of the voucher for hotels on a future date, depending on how the situation evolves so your best option would be to wait.
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Bloomberg reporting about Australia and in my view many other countries to follow:Australia will keep its international borders closed for at least three to four months to protect itself from the coronavirus pandemic that continues to deepen in other parts of the world.

Border restrictions would likely be the final measure lifted and would stay in place even if other rules were eased according to Chief Medical Officer Brendan Murphy, the Australian Broadcasting Corp. reported Thursday. Murphy told a government inquiry focusing on the Australian virus response the measures still had scope for exceptional circumstances.

”The international situation at the moment is such that any relaxation of border measures would be very risky,” Murphy said.
We had a family trip through HKG to SYD in August, so disappointing but the right decision.
Anybody else holding out hope for that summer holiday should maybe dampen those hopes.
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Old Apr 23, 2020 | 9:04 am
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@ stevie - Im a regular visitor to Australasia, and have tentative plans to attend the AO Tennis Championships in Melbourne next January. I would count myself lucky if such a trip actually happens.

And as far as NZ is concerned, I believe that - having done so well to contain fatality stats to such remarkably low levels - they will, understandably, be even more reluctant to re-open their borders to any without a legal right of abode.
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BA4469 (DUB-LCY) on 16 June cancelled

How long do I have to accept the new flights they have proposed (just 2 hour difference), or request the refund does anyone know?
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