The 'FUTURE OF BMI' thread, the LH takeover, & what it might mean for Diamond Club...
Dec 11, 2007, 3:11 pm
#31
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Windy Canary Wharf
Programs: OZ,UA,BD,AA
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Yes, but the demographics of the UK elite members is bound to change substantially.
As someone who gains status primarily on self-paid leisure travel, I don't think that I could maintain *G in M&M the way I do it in DC. It would probably mean that I would focus on maintaining the BA Gold and not fly much *A anymore.
As someone who gains status primarily on self-paid leisure travel, I don't think that I could maintain *G in M&M the way I do it in DC. It would probably mean that I would focus on maintaining the BA Gold and not fly much *A anymore.
Dec 11, 2007, 3:19 pm
#32
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OZ was actually my introduction to *A at the time of the *A status match a few years ago. According to my OZ online profile, it looks like I am still Diamond, even though I haven't credited anything to it in yonks and have lost my card. The earn/burn ratio on OZ, though, is unbelievably bad. If I HAD to choose a *A FFP and DC no longer existed, I would probably go for AC. But, honestly, without the attraction of DC, I don't think I would care that much about *A and rather than spreading myself across all 3 alliances, I would probably end up primarily OW, with ST as a secondary.
Dec 11, 2007, 3:33 pm
#33
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: LAX/BUR
Posts: 2,012
I hope the DC program doesn't get swallowed up by M&M 
It will be bye-bye to the awesome redemptions such as Morocco to Dubai or Hawaii to Asia (to name a few). I guess if it does happen, we would have a couple of years to still enjoy these benefits.
It will be bye-bye to the awesome redemptions such as Morocco to Dubai or Hawaii to Asia (to name a few). I guess if it does happen, we would have a couple of years to still enjoy these benefits.
Dec 11, 2007, 4:10 pm
#34
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Birmingham, West Midlands, UK
Programs: Mucci, BMI*G, M&M SEN, FB Gold, PC Plat, Father of GhettoIFE
Posts: 3,972
If it was the case of Diamond Club going to M&M, that would be me royally stuffed (I just about do enough a year to hit silver let along hit 35k in two years).
With M&M earing rates in Y (and discounted Y) quite frankly... very low (125 miles intra-eu flight vs 400 I get for an intra-eu flight, and half mileage on most longhaul Y fares), I'd have to either jump program or jump alliance and find a program thats happy to have a low earner (but I should add a loyal flyer - not that it means anything to a lot of companies these days)
Dread the thought - Flying Blue, UA M+, US Dividend Miles
I'm scared
In regards to the takeover, its going to be intresting how LH shores up the funding and moves in on the bits of BMI it doesn't have, then see what they will consider cutting back. However, seeing LX, they seem to have prospered well, and if anything have a fleet expasion and route expansion rather than a cut, I suppose anything can happen.
And when BMI is involved, it normally does....
(I just about do enough a year to hit silver let along hit 35k in two years). With M&M earing rates in Y (and discounted Y) quite frankly... very low (125 miles intra-eu flight vs 400 I get for an intra-eu flight, and half mileage on most longhaul Y fares), I'd have to either jump program or jump alliance and find a program thats happy to have a low earner (but I should add a loyal flyer - not that it means anything to a lot of companies these days)
Dread the thought - Flying Blue, UA M+, US Dividend Miles
I'm scared
In regards to the takeover, its going to be intresting how LH shores up the funding and moves in on the bits of BMI it doesn't have, then see what they will consider cutting back. However, seeing LX, they seem to have prospered well, and if anything have a fleet expasion and route expansion rather than a cut, I suppose anything can happen.
And when BMI is involved, it normally does....
Dec 11, 2007, 4:35 pm
#35
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: BRU
Programs: LH SEN, SN Gold, Eurostar Carte Blanche, BA, QF, AF
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With M&M earing rates in Y (and discounted Y) quite frankly... very low (125 miles intra-eu flight vs 400 I get for an intra-eu flight, and half mileage on most longhaul Y fares), I'd have to either jump program or jump alliance and find a program thats happy to have a low earner (but I should add a loyal flyer - not that it means anything to a lot of companies these days)
Dec 12, 2007, 2:32 am
#37
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Surrey, UK
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Dec 12, 2007, 5:04 am
#40
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,389
Here is how it worked with Swiss Travel Club (STC):
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470631
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=481164
The important thing is to be bmi Gold on the conversion date, as this should (hopefully) give 2 years LH SEN and after this two years LH FTL - plenty of time to obtain status in a different *A program.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470631
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=481164
The important thing is to be bmi Gold on the conversion date, as this should (hopefully) give 2 years LH SEN and after this two years LH FTL - plenty of time to obtain status in a different *A program.
Dec 12, 2007, 8:57 am
#41
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Europe
Posts: 1,590
On quite a few "cheap" fares, including the regular Ready-to-Fly promotion, you get 750 M&M miles per international sector on LH.
Dec 12, 2007, 5:52 pm
#42
Join Date: Sep 2006
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Wonder what they'd do about people shooting for lifetime gold by doing 10 consecutive years of BD gold or people who've already achieved it. Do you think they'd be so bold as to cancel people's existing or pending lifetime gold cards?
Dec 12, 2007, 6:20 pm
#43
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: MEL
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The first rule of frequent flyer programmes is that the airline can and will change the rules at short notice at any time. They are usually allowed to do this and make that pretty clear in the terms and conditions.
Dec 13, 2007, 2:05 am
#44
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