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RAPC Jan 18, 2011 6:10 am
Originally Posted by taff_2003 (Post 15681096)
Is this route likely to be declined on the basis of back-tracking?

SFO - YVR
YVR - ORD
ORD - LHR
That kind of routing has gone through fine in the past, but these days some agents are being rather rigid with their routings. I suspect it is the kind of route that one agent will say no to, another yes. As long as there is only one stop over maximum in that schedule, then call and see what they say.

dgreb Jan 19, 2011 2:18 pm
This looks straightforward:
ATL-ORD-NRT-HKG
HKG-NRT-ORD-ATL

However I'm finding it hard to get availability of CAN or HKG to NRT, can I go via PEK and stay there a few days?

Any suggestions to come back via Hawaii?

Thank you

rankourabu Jan 19, 2011 2:39 pm
Originally Posted by dgreb (Post 15692122)
This looks straightforward:
ATL-ORD-NRT-HKG
HKG-NRT-ORD-ATL

However I'm finding it hard to get availability of CAN or HKG to NRT, can I go via PEK and stay there a few days?

Any suggestions to come back via Hawaii?

Thank you
Yes, you can go via PEK and stay there a few days. In fact you can go via anything you desire ICN/KIX/etc. If you want direct, try HKG-HND as well.

If booked as 2 one-way tickets, you can also have a stop on your outbound

An easy one via Hawaii would be HKG-HND/NRT-HNL-ORD/DEN/EWR/IAH/YVR/LAX/SFO-ATL

davehammer Jan 22, 2011 4:47 am
Slightly convoluted
 
Would this one likely be allowed?

LHR-FRA (less than 24hr stop before)
FRA-JFK (3 days)
EWR-LIS (1 week)
LIS-LHR

Happy to pay for the short haul bits on squeezy jet or similar if not permitted by ICC!

Many Thanks in advance :)

Edit: just re-read the rules. Clearly not there. Could I do, FRA-JFK and EWR-LIS as 2 one way awards and then pay for the short haul? I just want to be as forearmed as possible before calling the ICC!

RAPC Jan 22, 2011 4:49 am
Originally Posted by davehammer (Post 15710097)
Would this one likely be allowed?

LHR-FRA (less than 24hr stop before)
FRA-JFK (3 days)
EWR-LIS (1 week)
LIS-LHR
You can't stop over in Europe (zones 1 and 2) so you couldn't stop over in LIS on your above schedule.

AHO Jan 22, 2011 4:49 am
Originally Posted by davehammer (Post 15710097)
Would this one likely be allowed?

LHR-FRA (less than 24hr stop before)
FRA-JFK (3 days)
EWR-LIS (1 week)
LIS-LHR

Happy to pay for the short haul bits on squeezy jet or similar if not permitted by ICC!

Many Thanks in advance :)
You cannot make stopover in Europe(in your case, in LIS).
It can be ticketed as 3 one way tickets:
Z1-Z3
Z3-Z2
Z2-Z1

foxyankee Jan 22, 2011 4:54 am
I made a couple of bookings coming from Asia including a stopover in Europe!

However: Book this as two oneway tickets!

RAPC Jan 22, 2011 5:09 am
Originally Posted by foxyankee (Post 15710119)
I made a couple of bookings coming from Asia including a stopover in Europe!

However: Book this as two oneway tickets!
One ways don't make a difference. Stopovers of over 24 hours in Europe before heading on to another destination are not allowed, so if you got these booked then you did well as they allowed them in error.

Unless you are referring to completing a one way journey in Europe, then commencing a 2nd one way booking? In which case, that isn't what we're talking about in the scenario before.

flyandtalk Jan 23, 2011 1:29 pm
Is it possible to get 4*C on TG BKK--OSA/NGO? I called ICC but was told only max 2 available.

Thanks！

RAPC Jan 23, 2011 2:43 pm
Originally Posted by flyandtalk (Post 15718165)
Is it possible to get 4*C on TG BKK--OSA/NGO? I called ICC but was told only max 2 available.

Thanks！
Well that isn't a question of whether the route isn't allowed, but the availability on the route itself. Have you used the ANA tool to research availability? If you haven't, then that is well worth using to check how many seats are available.

If the ICC are telling you only 2 seats are available, then that may be the case and you need to try different dates. If you can see 4 on ANA, then try another agent!

flyandtalk Jan 23, 2011 9:28 pm
Originally Posted by RAPC (Post 15718563)
Well that isn't a question of whether the route isn't allowed, but the availability on the route itself. Have you used the ANA tool to research availability? If you haven't, then that is well worth using to check how many seats are available.

If the ICC are telling you only 2 seats are available, then that may be the case and you need to try different dates. If you can see 4 on ANA, then try another agent!


Thanks for your reply. I always use ANA before calling ICC, the max C I can see on ANA is always 2.

Do you think TG might release more seats so that I could upgrade if I grab 2C+2Y?

Frayed_Yak Jan 23, 2011 11:58 pm
I'm considering this open-jaw, Z3-Z1 routing...

LAX-YVR
SEA-FRA

Is YVR to SEA considered backtracking, or do you think it's close enough?

Oxon Flyer Jan 24, 2011 1:17 am
Originally Posted by flyandtalk (Post 15720718)
Thanks for your reply. I always use ANA before calling ICC, the max C I can see on ANA is always 2.

Do you think TG might release more seats so that I could upgrade if I grab 2C+2Y?
TG often release extra seats instantly after you book the 2 available ones.

donkeyk Jan 24, 2011 9:09 am
Originally Posted by FlyingOnceMore (Post 15642261)
From LHR to the US, 37,500 miles would get one C ticket on a Cash & Miles basis, so if you have the funds, you could buy one revenue ticket and one award ticket. By the same method 30K would also get you one C ticket to Z5 on a Cash & Miles basis; DXB for example. Obviously there are other uses, like one C ticket on a Cash & Miles basis to Z8; HKG for example, if you start in Z2.

On a Miles Only basis, 36K would get you 2 C return tickets to Z2; LHR-IST on TK for example.
Thanks, FlyingOnceMore. Sorry if it's a basic question, but I assume I can therefore do two one-way C on NZ from LHR-LAX for 37,500 + £280 + tax (£396 per littlevoices' spreadsheet)? Which seems an OK usage by my reckoning...

FlyingOnceMore Jan 24, 2011 5:46 pm
37,500 + £210 + tax


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