Last edit by: JDiver
NOTE: This thread has been superseded by the thread entitled LM F and J routes (and the occasional trick-it) Rebooted v2.0. Please follow the discussion there.
Region definitions
C1 North America
C1.5 Caribbean, Bermuda
C2 Europe
C2.5 Middle East
C3 Asia
C4 South America
C5 Africa
C6 Oceania
2X, 3X: in the context of this LifeMiles thread, 2X and 3X refer to any 2nd and 3rd legs of a one-way award ticket.
LifeMiles' Star Alliance Award Chart
Cash & Miles redemptions: buying the max (60%) isn't always the best deal (unless you're purchasing all miles right there). Check here for the best CPM.
Beware of Cabotage: LifeMiles has been known to issue tickets that constitute Cabotage, and at least one instance of denied boarding has been reported, stranding the passenger. An easily-seen example is travel on Copa from LAX to SJU (via PTY).
Region definitions
C1 North America
C1.5 Caribbean, Bermuda
C2 Europe
C2.5 Middle East
C3 Asia
C4 South America
C5 Africa
C6 Oceania
2X, 3X: in the context of this LifeMiles thread, 2X and 3X refer to any 2nd and 3rd legs of a one-way award ticket.
LifeMiles' Star Alliance Award Chart
Cash & Miles redemptions: buying the max (60%) isn't always the best deal (unless you're purchasing all miles right there). Check here for the best CPM.
Beware of Cabotage: LifeMiles has been known to issue tickets that constitute Cabotage, and at least one instance of denied boarding has been reported, stranding the passenger. An easily-seen example is travel on Copa from LAX to SJU (via PTY).
LM F and J routes (and the occasional trick-it)
#1156
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: TLV
Posts: 522
Not so long as you don't check bags. Short-checking, while often possible, requires contact with a check-in agent. The less contact with brains, the longer this ridiculous stretching will last for all of us.
#1157
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 3,843
Check-in agents really care? Their job is to verify your docs, print a BP, wrap a tag on your luggage and off you go. Next.
#1158
Join Date: Jun 2013
Programs: SPG Plat 100, A3*G
Posts: 678
Can anyone share any tips on miles-optimized routes from C2 to TYO in C?
Already see that the fruit basket will bring me back...
Already see that the fruit basket will bring me back...
#1159
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2003
Programs: BA Silver, EY Gold, HH Diamond, IHG Plat
Posts: 12,214
Yep. Don't ask me why but they do. A friend was recently denied short check at EWR for a CDG stop. They even called a manager. Was told that only LM can cancel the last segment. YMMV but I am sure this was a one off.
#1160
Join Date: Jun 2013
Programs: SPG Plat 100, A3*G
Posts: 678
When using the website search, does it make any difference if you select the time of departure instead of just the date?
I've seen it mentioned somehwere that it does but not sure what the difference would be. Maybe some routes are found that otherwise wouldn't be?
I've seen it mentioned somehwere that it does but not sure what the difference would be. Maybe some routes are found that otherwise wouldn't be?
#1161
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 11
In my experience it does. sometimes you can get a more interesting routing by selecting the time of departure accordingly. There is a great post on how to force other times of departure than the default ones in this thread.
#1162
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: SIN
Posts: 76
so you would find a suitable time of departure based on the carrier you are interested in?
#1164
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Valencia, Spain
Programs: Pascal and Python, no C++
Posts: 738
I've observed that any change of parameters (spec. narrowing down a search) will result in different routes (and sometimes far more favourable prices) being shown.
in one case that I flew in December with Lifemiles, a narrower search (e.g. airline or time of departure selection) gave me availability that the wider search didn't show.
I guess it all comes down to the fact that there are so many routes available that no system can search them exhaustively, and different parameters will influence the search sequence, which will create different cut off points.
#1169
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 6,387
Also, let me just tabulate what has been going on the past #1167 posts:
LM is buggy, there are tricked routes for:
C1-C2 I can think of 2+ city pairs, two types of routings premium AND eco
C2-C1 I can think of 3+ city pairs, three types of routings, all premium/eco
C1-C3 4+ city pairs, two types (also one dead), two eco only, two premium and eco
C3-C1 2+ city pairs, premium and eco
C2-C3 2+ city pairs, premium and eco, two types
C3-C2 2+ city pairs, premium and eco, two types
C5-C2 1(+?) city pair, one type only? premium and eco
C6-C1 2 city pairs, eco only
C1-C6 1 city pair, eco only
C6-C3 2+ city pairs, premium and eco, two type, one eco one premium and eco
of course if you take the same places and leave from c2 instead of c1, you trick it as well but discount is not as much. so not really interested in those. would love tips on getting discount on c1-c4/c5, if that even exists.
LM is buggy, there are tricked routes for:
C1-C2 I can think of 2+ city pairs, two types of routings premium AND eco
C2-C1 I can think of 3+ city pairs, three types of routings, all premium/eco
C1-C3 4+ city pairs, two types (also one dead), two eco only, two premium and eco
C3-C1 2+ city pairs, premium and eco
C2-C3 2+ city pairs, premium and eco, two types
C3-C2 2+ city pairs, premium and eco, two types
C5-C2 1(+?) city pair, one type only? premium and eco
C6-C1 2 city pairs, eco only
C1-C6 1 city pair, eco only
C6-C3 2+ city pairs, premium and eco, two type, one eco one premium and eco
of course if you take the same places and leave from c2 instead of c1, you trick it as well but discount is not as much. so not really interested in those. would love tips on getting discount on c1-c4/c5, if that even exists.