Asiana (OZ) 747 vs 74E - seating and first class access question
Apr 16, 2009, 5:52 pm
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There is nothing to do with range. ORD used to use 74M as well before the 3 class 777 comes, and JFK is not that much further than ORD. It is about loads and freight.
Apr 21, 2009, 11:55 pm
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Flying SHA-ICN, in a 74E, my traveling companion and I were the only two passengers in the F cabin.
Then, connecting ICN-LAX -- same thing. Just the two of us, and three deadheading crew members in F.
In both cases, up until online check-in, there was no flexibility to move seats. At the airport, we could have whatever we wanted.
Apr 22, 2009, 12:02 am
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At the airport, however, I was given a different seat when I checked my bag. The plane had been changed to a 74E with the new configuration of F (the suites).
Apr 22, 2009, 12:21 am
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In C also. I've booked several trips months in advance and am extremely limited in my seat selection then, but often in reality the passengers in the cabin are vastly different than the available seats. Perhaps they don't want their competition being able to look at the number of empty seats and by that determine what sort of loads they're getting. The same reason I suppose why availability for each booking class is always limited to a very low number, regardless of the actual availability.
Apr 22, 2009, 8:06 am
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For my SHA-ICN flight on Monday, I was scheduled to fly a 74E (combi) and the seat map showed the old configuration of F seats up to, and including, online check-in.
At the airport, however, I was given a different seat when I checked my bag. The plane had been changed to a 74E with the new configuration of F (the suites).
At the airport, however, I was given a different seat when I checked my bag. The plane had been changed to a 74E with the new configuration of F (the suites).
Also, the 747E (new F) from PVG-ICN was the same plane that continued to LAX with 3 pax.
Apr 26, 2009, 4:58 am
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I flew on the new F seats on ICN-NRT recently and I was surprised that the seat does not go horizontal flat - it's nearly there, but the seat still retains a slight "Z-shape" even when fully reclined.
I wonder why they designed it this way? (I made sure I fully reclined the seat with "bed mode" before taking the pic so it's definitely as far back as it goes)
Compare this to the NH F seat:
This one definitely goes full flat. I didn't have time to try to sleep properly on the OZ F seat but I slept solidly for 8 hours on the NH F seat.
I wonder why they designed it this way? (I made sure I fully reclined the seat with "bed mode" before taking the pic so it's definitely as far back as it goes)
Compare this to the NH F seat:
This one definitely goes full flat. I didn't have time to try to sleep properly on the OZ F seat but I slept solidly for 8 hours on the NH F seat.
Apr 26, 2009, 10:08 am
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I flew on the new F seats on ICN-NRT recently and I was surprised that the seat does not go horizontal flat - it's nearly there, but the seat still retains a slight "Z-shape" even when fully reclined.
I wonder why they designed it this way? (I made sure I fully reclined the seat with "bed mode" before taking the pic so it's definitely as far back as it goes)
Compare this to the NH F seat:
This one definitely goes full flat. I didn't have time to try to sleep properly on the OZ F seat but I slept solidly for 8 hours on the NH F seat.
I wonder why they designed it this way? (I made sure I fully reclined the seat with "bed mode" before taking the pic so it's definitely as far back as it goes)
Compare this to the NH F seat:
This one definitely goes full flat. I didn't have time to try to sleep properly on the OZ F seat but I slept solidly for 8 hours on the NH F seat.
I also don't like the fact that OZ's tray table doesn't move out of the way when you get out of your seat. I alway have to wiggle and squirm through the small gap between the table and armrest.
Poor design IMO.
Apr 26, 2009, 6:07 pm
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Other than the F seats doesn't goes flat, the armrest is not electronic go down with the seat like NH F, something remind me of old UA F.
The new OZ F seat is far better than the old one, but behind the competitors current F seat.
The new OZ F seat is far better than the old one, but behind the competitors current F seat.
May 21, 2009, 11:31 pm
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Bit of a late post here, but I'm leaving on OZ 201 this saturday (5/23) in Y. My itinerary shows that I have seats 22A and 22B, the AC shows Boeing 747 which I interpret as 744/PAX and not the 74E/Combi, flightstatus.com also shows it as being a 747PAX. Both Asiana's seat map and seatguru show it as being in C. Am I lucky? or are both the maps just old? What are the chances I get swapped with the old 74E?
My first post here, hope I got the lingo right
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Edit: It actually shows me as being as 'V'
My first post here, hope I got the lingo right
.Edit: It actually shows me as being as 'V'
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May 21, 2009, 11:44 pm
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Welcome to FT, jtkellertx!
If your Y seats are 22 A&B, my money is on your flying a 74E Combi. As you can see from this seatmap, they're Y seats. Unlikely that you've been upgraded.
Go online and join the Asiana frequent flyer program. Then, with your confirmation code, you should be able to pull up the actual seat map for your flight on their system. (I think it works for Y, though I've honestly never flown OZ in Y.)
If your Y seats are 22 A&B, my money is on your flying a 74E Combi. As you can see from this seatmap, they're Y seats. Unlikely that you've been upgraded.
Go online and join the Asiana frequent flyer program. Then, with your confirmation code, you should be able to pull up the actual seat map for your flight on their system. (I think it works for Y, though I've honestly never flown OZ in Y.)
Jun 5, 2009, 8:04 pm
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I'm booked on a Star Alliance business class reward flight, for November 2009 HKG-ICN-KIX.
For OZ724 HKG-ICN, I have seats 2J, 2K. I've phoned and reconfirmed seats.
If I understand correctly, I'm probably on the 'dark' 74M, but in first? Does this make sense?
If there's an equipment change to a refurbished 74M, will I get booted upstairs?
Thanks in advance.
For OZ724 HKG-ICN, I have seats 2J, 2K. I've phoned and reconfirmed seats.
If I understand correctly, I'm probably on the 'dark' 74M, but in first? Does this make sense?
If there's an equipment change to a refurbished 74M, will I get booted upstairs?
Thanks in advance.
Jun 5, 2009, 11:39 pm
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I'm booked on a Star Alliance business class reward flight, for November 2009 HKG-ICN-KIX.
For OZ724 HKG-ICN, I have seats 2J, 2K. I've phoned and reconfirmed seats.
If I understand correctly, I'm probably on the 'dark' 74M, but in first? Does this make sense?
If there's an equipment change to a refurbished 74M, will I get booted upstairs?
Thanks in advance.
For OZ724 HKG-ICN, I have seats 2J, 2K. I've phoned and reconfirmed seats.
If I understand correctly, I'm probably on the 'dark' 74M, but in first? Does this make sense?
If there's an equipment change to a refurbished 74M, will I get booted upstairs?
Thanks in advance.
More than likely not, there are more chance for the day time OZ 722 switch to new one as the yield is much better than the redeye. The redeye usually is filled with tourist groups.