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OZ 214 ICN-SFO (reg no HL-7742), a 2006 Boeing 777-200ER with P&W PW4090 engines; flew ICN - KIX - ICN immediately prior (not as OZ 214). 291 passengers and 16 crew on board. 3 people dead, 48 seriously injured, 132 less so.

Aircraft landed short on approach (VFR weather, ILS out of service, PAPI working) impacting the seawall delimiting runway 28L with main landing gear and then the tail 11:28 PDT, careering down the runway to a stop and ensuing fire. The empennage and both engines separated from the fuselage, and fire from an oil drip in engine no. 2 burnt a significant part of the upper forward fuselage.

Runway 28L / 10R was closed until 1700 PDT 12 July; all SFO runways are open.

Here is a Link to the Flightaware track. (6 Jul 2013).

Link to original BBC article; Link to BBC photo show

Update: 08 July 2013
Summary of NTSB press conference

Update: 09 July 2013
SF Gate summary of NTSB press conference

Update: 10 July 2013
NBC video and summary of NTSB press conference

Update: 11 July 2013
San Jose Mercury summary of final NTSB press conference

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Old Jul 6, 2013, 2:05 pm
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Originally Posted by Bacai
people so crazy to stop and take pictures:

https://twitter.com/shelbygrad/statu...289602/photo/1
What annoys me most of all in that, is that an actual passenger (David Eun) took that photo, and others ripped out his name and posted it as their own photo. Amazing how far people will go for a little attention online
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Old Jul 6, 2013, 2:07 pm
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OMG, hoping initial reports were correct and that there were no casualties. This is such a horrible thing to watch! Those poor people.
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Old Jul 6, 2013, 2:08 pm
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Originally Posted by yyznomad
"Touched down too early" vs. "Barely made it to the runway"

which one? @:-)
Originally Posted by notsosmart
Waaaaaaay too early for (pilot error) speculation, please.
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Old Jul 6, 2013, 2:09 pm
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Hoping everyone is alive and recovers. How awful.

Someone posted a recording of ATC here
http://soberbuildengineer-com.s3.ama...KSFO-Crash.mp3
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Old Jul 6, 2013, 2:09 pm
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Originally Posted by notsosmart
Waaaaaaay too early for this kind speculation, please.
No, its really not.
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Old Jul 6, 2013, 2:11 pm
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Originally Posted by Bacai
people so crazy to stop and take pictures:

https://twitter.com/shelbygrad/statu...289602/photo/1
90 seconds to get out... although i'd be still running away at this point (it could explode, etc).
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Old Jul 6, 2013, 2:11 pm
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"Airline expert" on KTVU just pointed out (correctly, I think), that the large yellow item at the back of the tail is the pressure bulkhead. This would mean there were no pax or crew in the area where the tail broke off. Some speculation/questions:

- There were, apparently, several eyewitness reports of the plane "cartwheeling." Judge from the amount of debris and the absence of an intact tail, could it have the tail the cartwheeled while the plane skidded to a halt?

- The plane is clearly on its belly. Did it hit so hard that all landing gear collapsed? Did hitting the breakwater tail-first cause the plane to slam down hard and collapse the landing gear?

- The pressure bulkhead was clearly compromised. Why?
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Old Jul 6, 2013, 2:13 pm
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Originally Posted by sheremetyevo
Hoping everyone is alive and recovers. How awful.

Someone posted a recording of ATC here
http://soberbuildengineer-com.s3.ama...KSFO-Crash.mp3
Sounds like they declared an emergency before coming down.
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Old Jul 6, 2013, 2:13 pm
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Originally Posted by notsosmart
I know that lazy reporting is endemic, but keep in mind that we are av geeks, and not everyone else is. At least the reporter got the country right.
:-)
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Old Jul 6, 2013, 2:15 pm
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This actually reminded me of AF358 - in the sense of how everyone got out PDQ and fuselage burned out shortly thereafter.
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Old Jul 6, 2013, 2:16 pm
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Originally Posted by NoLaGent
Emergency crews have just initially reported zero lives lost, which is amazing and a testament to Asiana's flight crew getting everyone evacuated.
Agreed. Kudos to the crew! ^^^ And kudos to the passengers for not panicking in what must have been a terrifying situation -- after a long flight, from the anticipation of an uneventful landing to a full-on crash in a millisecond.
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Old Jul 6, 2013, 2:16 pm
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Originally Posted by PTravel
- There were, apparently, several eyewitness reports of the plane "cartwheeling." Judge from the amount of debris and the absence of an intact tail, could it have the tail the cartwheeled while the plane skidded to a halt?
The original report on CNN seemed to be indicating "Cartwheeling" but it seemed like it was spinning when he was later interviewed. This was the same interview where he said "the wings ripped off."
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Old Jul 6, 2013, 2:16 pm
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Unconfirmed Report: There was a body found by the US Coast Guard

Not sure if it's from the plane or someone on the ground or what...
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Old Jul 6, 2013, 2:16 pm
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Echoes, possibly, of the short BA 777 landing at LHR.
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Old Jul 6, 2013, 2:17 pm
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CNN now reporting the Coast Guard has launched a rescue operation in the waters off SFO. Based on the quality of their reporting (aside from Richard Quest) ...
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