Quadra Smartium (Business Lie Flat) and Routes (consolidated)
#166
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Anyone seen a schedule for QS seating beyond what they have posted on their website ?
http://us.flyasiana.com/Global/US/en...rchWrd=&page=1
Current posted schedule expires in two days.
Mark
http://us.flyasiana.com/Global/US/en...rchWrd=&page=1
Current posted schedule expires in two days.
Mark
#167
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Anyone seen a schedule for QS seating beyond what they have posted on their website ?
http://us.flyasiana.com/Global/US/en...rchWrd=&page=1
Current posted schedule expires in two days.
Mark
http://us.flyasiana.com/Global/US/en...rchWrd=&page=1
Current posted schedule expires in two days.
Mark
#168
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Although with any airline there's the possibility of equipment swaps; with UA he could fally victim to a 772 downgrade to ICN and get an even worse seat. As fare as SQ going, they only run 77W's on said route so the equipment will always be the same. I'd say give OZ another chance, mistakes/equipment swaps do happen and I'm sure the likelihood of it occurring is much greater on UA.
UA won't swap 747 to a 777 and vice versa internationally, as there is a different of 100+ seats and huge cargo capacity different. (the cargo capacity is especially important to Asia) If there is a mechanical, it would only delay or cancel instead of swapping to a 777. SFO-ICN for UA is a 744 currently and it is guranteed.
OZ however can change more often than UA, as no matter QS or not, it will still be a 777
ORD 95% has no QS and even no AVOD. LAX is mix on the 777, 747 for sure no QS. SEA is 330, so no QS for sure.
JFK is a high yield route, 3 class plane needed, and there are no 3 class plane no matter 747 or 777 have QS.
A little off topic...why isn't Asiana fitting their planes with new seats fast enough?? And it's kind of inconsistent especially with Y. They should have started a while ago and just retrofit all the 777's with new C and Y (bigger ptv) with AVOD so there's no 50/50.
Even without QS, they should at least add AVOD for those 5 non-AVOD 2 class 777.
Last edited by ORDnHKG; Oct 29, 2011 at 4:01 pm
#169
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http://us.flyasiana.com/Global/US/en...rchWrd=&page=1
I called and my flight in November - same routing, will still be this aircraft/config.
#170
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Few guarantee's in life, but OZ has been operating the 772 full lie flat to/from SFO - take a peak here:
http://us.flyasiana.com/Global/US/en...rchWrd=&page=1
I called and my flight in November - same routing, will still be this aircraft/config.
http://us.flyasiana.com/Global/US/en...rchWrd=&page=1
I called and my flight in November - same routing, will still be this aircraft/config.
Someone mentioned in another thread, despite called and asked multiple times and confirmed, still when the person got on board the plane it wasn't the case. So it is all about luck.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/asian...-smartium.html
#171
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Recent inquiries have been merged into this de facto master thread on the lie flat Business Quadra Smartium seating / routing. JDiver, Senior Moderator
#172
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UA won't swap 747 to a 777 and vice versa internationally, as there is a different of 100+ seats and huge cargo capacity different. (the cargo capacity is especially important to Asia) If there is a mechanical, it would only delay or cancel instead of swapping to a 777. SFO-ICN for UA is a 744 currently and it is guranteed.
OZ however can change more often than UA, as no matter QS or not, it will still be a 777
OZ however can change more often than UA, as no matter QS or not, it will still be a 777
It is about 98%-99% of the time. Just check last month in October, there was one day don't have QS equipped 777, and of course no AVOD as well.
Someone mentioned in another thread, despite called and asked multiple times and confirmed, still when the person got on board the plane it wasn't the case. So it is all about luck.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/asian...-smartium.html
Someone mentioned in another thread, despite called and asked multiple times and confirmed, still when the person got on board the plane it wasn't the case. So it is all about luck.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/asian...-smartium.html
Even on 3 class routes there are stories of a downgrade to a 2 class plane with OZ.
At least on OZ there's more consistency, as opposed to KE, who appears to frequently change the metal on several routes.
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I had never seen that for UA's Asia routes, just like ORD-HKG and SFO-HKG, never once in its operation use a 777. (It is totally capable, as when UA tried to start 2nd ORD-HKG or 2nd SFO-HKG a 777 was used)
#174
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I am holding a reservation on J OZ214 (ICN-SFO) Dec 1st. The seat map for this flight cannot be opened on OZ website, while other OZ flights in the same itinerary allow seat selection. I called OZ and they couldn't open the seat map either. Before building this itinerary, I booked OZ214 in J on Nov 30 and was able to select seats online.
Does this seem like OZ will switch aircraft so OZ214 will not have QS on Dec 1?
Does this seem like OZ will switch aircraft so OZ214 will not have QS on Dec 1?
#175
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I am holding a reservation on J OZ214 (ICN-SFO) Dec 1st. The seat map for this flight cannot be opened on OZ website, while other OZ flights in the same itinerary allow seat selection. I called OZ and they couldn't open the seat map either. Before building this itinerary, I booked OZ214 in J on Nov 30 and was able to select seats online.
Does this seem like OZ will switch aircraft so OZ214 will not have QS on Dec 1?
Does this seem like OZ will switch aircraft so OZ214 will not have QS on Dec 1?
#176
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Anyone seen a schedule for QS seating beyond what they have posted on their website ?
http://us.flyasiana.com/Global/US/en...rchWrd=&page=1
Current posted schedule expires in two days.
Mark
http://us.flyasiana.com/Global/US/en...rchWrd=&page=1
Current posted schedule expires in two days.
Mark
http://us.flyasiana.com/Global/US/en...SVIEW&seq=1806
#177
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They list 'cocktails' in the menu, but that really is only things that can be made from combining Jack Daniels with various fruit juices.
Not much good if you don't like bourbon 'whiskey' (or should that be, whisky...)?
#179
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The seats have been seen once in a blue moon to SYD but I don't think to ORD. In any case, chances are slim. It is far more likely that you will have the old C with PTV and not even AVOD.
#180
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Was flying OZ111 KIX-ICN on Nov 5 and to my surprise (didn't check aircraft beforehand as I rarely fly OZ) it was the QS seat for this 2hrs hop. Nice seat for sure, a bit "huging" maybe if you are claustrophobic.
The only gripe I have are these absolutely ridiculously cheap headphones they provide. What a joke for an offering like that and I got the same stuff on the 7hrs ICN-SIN flight on the A330.
The only gripe I have are these absolutely ridiculously cheap headphones they provide. What a joke for an offering like that and I got the same stuff on the 7hrs ICN-SIN flight on the A330.